ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)

[ggriffaw]

I doubt Anovos would have created the Texas manufacturing facility unless they wanted to continue making products there. It sounds like there were some changes in how things were going with the overseas manufacturers. This affected Anovos and efx. The Texas facility was intended to allow more direct control of manufacturing. They have been able to produce and deliver items from that facility much faster. Of course they could use the Texas facility for other licenses as well, but I don't see fiberglass helmets in the other lines.

 

[ggriffaw]

After all this problems with Anovos and EFX its the best way Disney makes the high end props under their own flag in the future.
So people must not have fear that the company goes bankrupt with all their money when they preorder something.

But with international shipping and not only for the parks.

Does Disney currently do that for any of their more expensive items?

Many people would like to be able to order the Legacy lightsabers. As far as I know the only ways to get them direct from Disney is to go to the parks. There are other much more expensive Star Wars items also only available at the parks.

 

[xwingercrash]

If Disney wanted to do something like this they may opt do it under the LFL badge to give the products some more street cred. Then market them as a line of ultimate high end prop collectors editions. “Straight from the Lucas Film archives, masterfully and painstakingly recreated from the actual prop used onscreen we bring you...”

 

[Kroenen77]

If Disney wanted to do something like this they may opt do it under the LFL badge to give the products some more street cred. Then market them as a line of ultimate high end prop collectors editions. “Straight from the Lucas Film archives, masterfully and painstakingly recreated from the actual prop used onscreen we bring you...”

They did something like that with propshop and the TFA props.But the prices where too high.

Does Disney currently do that for any of their more expensive items?

Many people would like to be able to order the Legacy lightsabers. As far as I know the only ways to get them direct from Disney is to go to the parks. There are other much more expensive Star Wars items also only available at the parks.

Like I said...only when they do it in the future.I´m also not a friend of the park exclusives.

 

[ggriffaw]

Like I said...only when they do it in the future.I´m also not a friend of the park exclusives.

The exclusives are incentives to go to the parks. Spend lots of money so you can go in and spend lots more money buying stuff. I don't know if the policy is still in place, but for a while they were limiting how many Galaxy Edge items each person could buy. They knew people with season passes were buying things to resell online.

If they don't have a history of selling expensive Disney branded products online, I would be surprised if they started to do that.

 

[Kroenen77]

The exclusives are incentives to go to the parks. Spend lots of money so you can go in and spend lots more money buying stuff. I don't know if the policy is still in place, but for a while they were limiting how many Galaxy Edge items each person could buy. They knew people with season passes were buying things to resell online.

If they don't have a history of selling expensive Disney branded products online, I would be surprised if they started to do that.

When Anovos and EFX are gone we will see what they do.Thats all we can do.

 

[BudaFett]

If Disney wanted to do something like this they may opt do it under the LFL badge to give the products some more street cred. Then market them as a line of ultimate high end prop collectors editions. “Straight from the Lucas Film archives, masterfully and painstakingly recreated from the actual prop used onscreen we bring you...”

You'll never see a licensed replica that is exactly 1:1. Something small always gets changed but I'd love if Disney sold their own replicas in the parks. Anovos/eFx quality without having to deal with those companies.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

Are any Disney branded items sold outside of their stores at the parks?

They currently have a deal with select Targets to seek Disney Store items. It’s not much but it sets a precedent. But they would not even have to sell outside the Disney Store. They could simply keep it exclusive to the stores.

They other way to look at this is that a Disney Brand not need to be directly Disney but a subsidiary. Marvel has Marvel Toys. Lucas has Lucas Licensing which included their books. That could be expanded. Or they could do a whole new group so they could expand into any other costumes or prop replicas from any of their properties.

I'm not sure if they sell the same items at their stores in malls or on their website or not. I always thought they wanted at least certain items to only be available at the parks. The replica lightsabers are an example of this.

Go back and reread my comment. My intent was to express that they should do different items, not the exact same so the park items are still exclusive products.

This also doesn’t mean they still do everything. If they are happy with Hasbro making FX lightsabers, then leave those to them.

 

[mikidymac]

You'll never see a licensed replica that is exactly 1:1. Something small always gets changed but I'd love if Disney sold their own replicas in the parks. Anovos/eFx quality without having to deal with those companies.

They do, you can buy the Anovos TFA TK and Kylo helmets at Galaxy's Edge and take it home with you that day.

 

[BudaFett]

They do, you can buy the Anovos TFA TK and Kylo helmets at Galaxy's Edge and take it home with you that day.

I know, the helmets actually come with stands too but I’m saying Disney should do their own replicas.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

You'll never see a licensed replica that is exactly 1:1. Something small always gets changed but I'd love if Disney sold their own replicas in the parks. Anovos/eFx quality without having to deal with those companies.

I don't think you will ever make people happy. There is always something. Sometimes the item was crudely constructed in the first place, or the their were multiple versions and each had their own unique details. We have to remember that even though we are a large community, re represent a small... small percentage of the Fan and collector base. Most people would rather have a Trooper helmet the way they think they remember seeing it, rather than how it was in reality for filming. Even many people on this board such as myself prefer idealized replicas over the production used detailing of the real item.

The other thing you have to remember is that Anovos is not a prop and costume replica company, they are high end costumes. Which means they need to (or at least should be) focusing on the ability for the consumer to utilize the item. For instance, they may make changes in design or technique in order for a a person to wear the costume for better fit and better appearance.

I believe that when it comes to meeting the minor discrepancies that some people here want in their props and costumes, that sort of thing should be left to the RPF community to deliver.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

They did something like that with propshop and the TFA props.But the prices where too high.

When Anovos and EFX are gone we will see what they do.Thats all we can do.

That leads me to another point.

Whether Disney takes over or gives out another license, I hope that understand that there different markets for costume and prop replicas.

Those Propshop items were very expensive but they did sell. So they need to understand that there is a market for those items. Sideshow knows this from their life size collectibles. Expensive but they sell.

But they also need to hit the other groups out there which I think most of us fall into.
1. There are those who will pay a little more for items to get items made of accurate screen used material or just better material like fiberglass. They want these items mainly for display purposes. They want to make a little museum in their house and want them to have a plaque and an enclosed case.
2. Then there are those people who might want them for display but they want to also be interactive. They want to take them out and use them with costumes, to touch them, swing them around say pew pew. Not worthy about finger prints. These are the people who might buy a Hasbro or Disney X-Wing helmet instead of an eFx X-Wing helmet.

I fall into the second group. One of the biggest problems in the past with Icons, MR, and eFx (excluding their stunts) is that they made what I call untouchable replicas. You feel like they are museum pieces. The prices are higher because you are also paying for cases and plaques. While I understand this is a draw for some, it is not something everyone wants or needs. There are lot of items selling at GE that are very attractive to us without the fancy packaging, display cases, and plaques. Those type of items would be very desirable. Once again. They don't need to be the same items, but similar products. While some items from Hasbro and Anovos (when they do deliver) fill some of this need, in general it is a market I feel is being ignored.

 

[Kroenen77]

Your right but I think there are lots of props out there to play with.
Look at all the Hasbro BS helmets,the FX sabers...and other stuff.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

Your right but I think there are lots of props out there to play with.
Look at all the Hasbro BS helmets,the FX sabers...and other stuff.

Not really. You pretty much named them. Like I said, Anovos (but you can hardly count them due to their issues) and Efx stunt items are probably the others but since 1977 there have been 11 live action movies, 3 cartoon series, 1 live action TV show, and countless other EU media. Do you really feel that prop and costume replicas have been made openly available? Not everything is helmet, blasters, and lightsabers. Why not coaxium container, Chance cube, jedi comlink, basically look at your collection of fan made props and ask "Where is the official replica?" And I am not talking about offering these in a fancy box, with paperwork, a display case, and plaque. I am talking about offering them in simple boxes, bags, a simple tag, or blister cards. Basically what you see them doing at GE but develop a different line of products for mass market.

 

[Kroenen77]

Yes...a coaxium container would be nice.

 

[OddballFett]

They want to take them out and use them with costumes, to touch them, swing them around say pew pew.

No! No pew. Pepé Le Pew!

youtube.com/watch?v=tej7Fqyd8FQ

 

[darthjones]

An aside, sort of - how many folk paid money for an SL Vader that was never delivered? Like Anovos does, yes, but PM me if you like since it is off direct topic.

 

[ggriffaw]

Not really. You pretty much named them. Like I said, Anovos (but you can hardly count them due to their issues) and Efx stunt items are probably the others but since 1977 there have been 11 live action movies, 3 cartoon series, 1 live action TV show, and countless other EU media. Do you really feel that prop and costume replicas have been made openly available? Not everything is helmet, blasters, and lightsabers. Why not coaxium container, Chance cube, jedi comlink, basically look at your collection of fan made props and ask "Where is the official replica?" And I am not talking about offering these in a fancy box, with paperwork, a display case, and plaque. I am talking about offering them in simple boxes, bags, a simple tag, or blister cards. Basically what you see them doing at GE but develop a different line of products for mass market.

Galaxy's Edge has some products like that. Legacy light sabers, some adult costumes, sabacc cards, chance cubes, Dagobah ration kit, etc. Some of the items they offer are pretty obscure. Many people wouldn't know some of the items are from Star Wars.

An aside, sort of - how many folk paid money for an SL Vader that was never delivered? Like Anovos does, yes, but PM me if you like since it is off direct topic.

Not quite the same. At least with Anovos if you don't want to wait for a product you preordered, you can get store credit and use that money on something they are delivering. I did exactly that when the Mando helmet was offered.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

Galaxy's Edge has some products like that. Legacy light sabers, some adult costumes, sabacc cards, chance cubes, Dagobah ration kit, etc. Some of the items they offer are pretty obscure. Many people wouldn't know some of the items are from Star Wars.

Yes, I am aware of their selection. I still not sure you are understanding what I am trying to say.

 

[ggriffaw]

Yes, I am aware of their selection. I still not sure you are understanding what I am trying to say.

I know the GE products aren't widely available, but other than that aren't the products what you are asking for? They have a mixture of very expensive items and decent quality, more reasonably priced items.

I wish the products would be more widely available, but they are incentives to go to the parks. The GE items available at Target are described as Galaxy's Edge inspired. I'm not sure if any of those items are also sold at GE.

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