Another Salzo V3 Build

[Trekkie313]

So how much was the kit?

 

[mslz22]

So how much was the kit?

This is currently out of production but a short run may be available soon, please PM me for info.


Bigturc, great job on this, I hope it was fun to build...I still do not have one built for myself......someday...
thanks
Mike S

 

[Bigturc]

Mike ..

Thanks bud .. this has been not only fun .. but my introduction to the SS and garage kit world and I loved it : I couldn't think of a better kit for this purpose!!!

Hopefully, my paint job will be on par with the time I spent building and tweaking my build!

 

[WinHac]

Lighting looks great.

 

[Bigturc]

I had to be an idiot at some point ...

I had the perfect day to shoot my white today .. so I went ahead with Krylon gloss white .. did the 4 cannons and the 4 trusters .. Result looks pretty good on the cannons .. but not so much on the trusters where there's little cracks all over them .. plus some kind of pin heads .. can anyone shed some lights if there's something fundamental I did wrong?

I used black Dupli-Color as my base primer .. and Krylon Fusion as my white coat!

 

[MonsieurTox]

That's looking very good !
As for the problem with the white paint on the thruster, I dont know. I have the same problem from time to time with my primer (can be styrene or resin model, I had the problem with both) and I dont know why it's perfect on other parts. Maybe you havent shaked the can enough ?

As for the port cover, you can trust the left screen cap, the right isnt Red 5.

I wouldnt paint it glossy white though. The ILM X-Wings were painted with Krylon Platinium gray (correct me if I'm wrong, but it's OOP or has a different color today). It was not a glossy paint and it was an off-white. The glossy paint story come from Bill George who painted his X-Wing from his own collection this way. And the guy never worked on the original X-Wings...

 

[Bigturc]

Julien .. of course, that kind of tip comes in an hour after I actually shot my bird!!! I need direction here .. what should I do from here .. obviously, I've already shot those 8 pieces gloss white .. I was planing on hitting them with steel whool after ..

But I'm up for any suggestion now! Should I move on? Remove the paint and probably mess everything up? shoot over it with something else? Throw the whole thing in the garbage?

 

[CessnaDriver]

Let them dry well and try the steel wool out. Can't hurt.

 

[Bigturc]

Oh and about the port cover .. You can see how I've done them with brass tubing! The result is not exactly what I see on pictures where it seems more round'ish .. do we know what was used on the original for these things?

 

[MonsieurTox]

Julien .. of course, that kind of tip comes in an hour after I actually shot my bird!!! I need direction here .. what should I do from here .. obviously, I've already shot those 8 pieces gloss white .. I was planing on hitting them with steel whool after ..

But I'm up for any suggestion now! Should I move on? Remove the paint and probably mess everything up? shoot over it with something else? Throw the whole thing in the garbage?

I think you can remove the paint. It's resin and solvent wont hurt it (unlike styrene). If you dont want to risk anything, you can just let it dry then put your new flat base coat on them. It will be a bit thick, but I guess it wont be very noticeable, that wont be a problem on the cannons, maybe the details of the engines will be a bit softer. Fortunatly you just have painted only those parts so far !
Krylon isnt supplied here, so I dont know the brand, but maybe you should try to get a flat off-white from the Krylon line ? Maybe someone familiar with the Krylon line could help here, cant be of much help about that, sorry. Anyway if you want to go with a pure white, let's go I think that's what they used at least on Blue Leader (Red 2), but a flat one !

As for the little round things, they are female plugs for connectors (for the engine lights, cannons FO and the motorized armature). Those are on both sides, close to the mounting points and on the back (sherman) close to the rear mounted point. I dont know where was those connectors when they were mounted from the nose.

I hope it helps, and sorry to be late.

 

[mslz22]

I know that someone else was complaining that the new formulation of Krylon fusion in gloss was hard to shoot if not done in very, very thin layers. I think they may have had the same problems with pinheads etc.....

I would try to strip these parts, i have had good luck with stripping paint from resin with no damage to the resin, but with the fusion do it soon, or else it may really set up.

If all else fails and it's just these 8 parts, I can get you replacements.

Good luck
mike

 

[Bigturc]

Mike,

Thanks for the offer .. I've put so much time in each of these parts .. I'd really prefer not doing them again so I'll figure things out and move on with my errors.

So .. I'm still not sure what base coat I'm gonna hit the X with. I'm not sure anymore about gloss white .. so I could always get another color from Dupli-Color or Krylon .. but I'm just coming back from the paint store and couldn't find anything that looked good.

I'm still very open to suggestions from anyone who would have shot one with rattle cans? Should I just go Krylon Mate white?

 

[Bigturc]

Julien, thanks for the info about those ports .. Hopefully, my interpretation is not too far from it!

Anyone ever heard anything about any of these
- Tamiya spray paint Insignia White AS20
- Tamiya Racing White TS7

 

[MonsieurTox]

Julien, thanks for the info about those ports .. Hopefully, my interpretation is not too far from it!

Anyone ever heard anything about any of these
- Tamiya spray paint Insignia White AS20
- Tamiya Racing White TS7

Hey BT,

I dont know for the Tamiya Racing White (I guess it's glossy), but I used the AS20 for my Red 4 :

http://www.therpf.com/showpost.php?p=879580&postcount=73

As you can see this is not the right hue, and that's not white enough, so I did my own mix and I covered the AS20.
I eventually used the AS 20 to paint the Lambda Shuttle has it's looking right.

 

[Bigturc]

Yeah .. I can see .. it looks way too grey to my (untrained) eyes!!!

That's so weird .. I know it doesn't mean much, but here's the sample of the color on Tamiya's web site :

I'm still trying to figure out the color I should use now ... any other suggestions? I'd really want to not have to airbrush the base color!!!

 

[Bigturc]

In the meantime, can anyone explain to me the idea behind the steel whool technique?

Is it to just dull down the base coat? To get the raised details scrubed so that the primer shows through it? Or just to get a general feeling of worn out look.

I've tested it on a scrap piece and I see the result .. I'm not convinced .. any image I could look at that describes the process?

** EDIT ***

After looking at Julien's Red4 pic .. and the Red5 ref pics I have .. I guess the idea behind the steel whool is to use it over the red stripes or any other brushed paint to rub through it to reach the base coat? That would make more sense to me .. man am I newb!!! Can anyone confirm either this or the fact that I'm noob .. it's all good!

 

[MonsieurTox]

Yeah .. I can see .. it looks way too grey to my (untrained) eyes!!!

That's so weird .. I know it doesn't mean much, but here's the sample of the color on Tamiya's web site :

I'm still trying to figure out the color I should use now ... any other suggestions? I'd really want to not have to airbrush the base color!!!

Yeah lol that's why I ordered several cans of it, I thought it was almost white, but no lol

I havent looked for another option as I was in a rush to paint it, and doing my own mix and airbrushing the whole thing was the best way for me (plus the AS20 is pretty thick, so I was not wanting to put another thick coat from a spray can).

Did you try to search for Krylon platinium gray ? Maybe it's sill in production.

 

[Bigturc]

I've looked around the net but can't seem to find anything on it!

The more I think about it .. the more I want to just find a mate off-white color and shoot over everything I have right now. The only thing I'm affraid now is that shooting a color over the black primer on some part, and then over the gloss white on others my end up with different tone for the base coat. But again, I don't want to shoot another coat of primer over the white since it's gonna end up pretty thick I guess!!!

So many questions ...

 

[MonsieurTox]

I've looked around the net but can't seem to find anything on it!

The more I think about it .. the more I want to just find a mate off-white color and shoot over everything I have right now. The only thing I'm affraid now is that shooting a color over the black primer on some part, and then over the gloss white on others my end up with different tone for the base coat. But again, I don't want to shoot another coat of primer over the white since it's gonna end up pretty thick I guess!!!

So many questions ...

You shouldnt have any problem if you put a consistent coat of your new paint. But just to be sure, just shoot a coat of flat black (Tamiya) with your airbrush on the engines and cannons and you'll be OK. No need to put another coat of primer !

 

[Bigturc]

Good idea .. I'll do just that!

Now, to find that base coat ...

PS Julien .. on devrait s'envoyer des emails en francais .. de toute facon, on est les seuls a ecrire back and forth dans mon thread! D'ailleurs, je reviens d'un sejour de 15 jours a Paris .. je suis alle faire une formation pour mon boulot!!! Sympathique ville ... on est sorti dans le 2e arrondissement!!! Y'avait de l'action!!