ALIENS Sideshow Toys 12" Cpl. Hicks arrives

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  1. Gigatron

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    Hey gang.

    Don't know if this really falls under props but it seems more relevant than off topic. Anyway, on with the review.

    First off, this has got to be one of the coolest 12" figures I have come across in the 10+ yrs I've been collecting 12" figures (everything from star wars to military (not g.i. joe)). There are so many things "right" with it that it's hard to find fault with the things that are wrong.

    First off, packaging:

    The external slip cover has the really cool "holographic" look (actually chameleon color - think holographic in '80s terms). The internal packaging is very cool as well. Done in a flip box style, the artwork on the box is a non-reflective version of the slip cover. Once you flip open the box, you get a peek of the major components of the figure (but not the figure itself - and there's probably a very good reason) such as the armor, BDUs, rulse rifle, VP70 and other accessories.

    Overall: :thumbsup nicely done and the packaging itself is display worthy. It would have been nice to see different artwork on the inside, but it's not that big of a deal.

    Next, inside the box:

    They used those formed plastic trays that usually keeps you from getting anything out without breaking them. Thankfully, this was not the case this time. The trays were formed so the pieces would sit where they're supposed to but come right out. No pinching trays and none of those god-awful plastic wire-ties.

    There are 3 levels of trays, the top tray is the "keeper" (keeps things from falling out of the others - duh :lol). The second tray holds all the doo-dads and the figure itself. The third tray holds the mount/base/stand (whatever you'd like to call it).

    Overall: :thumbsup Everything is nicely seperated AND easily removed. Other than that, what more can you ask for from a plastic tray.

    Now to the good stuff :love

    The body:

    Oy, where do I start? It first seems like a standard Dragon or bbi body kit, but, you have to assemble the entire figure yourself. There's a reason this figure is labled as a poseable model kit. The chest comes in 2 sections (front half and back half). You have to insert the shoulder sections into the back chest half and the lower torso section also hangs on a post in the chest section. Then you have to try and snap the front chest half on while balancing the shoulders in the back half. The biggest trouble comes from how the front half snaps in to the back half. It's not simple posts. There's also some sort of clip, so the front half has to slide up from underneath to catch the clasp and then seat the posts. This part alone took a better part of 45 minutes (between trying to balance the shoulders while fastening the front half). Next, you have to screw the two halves together using the supplied screws and screwdriver. The screwdriver is the biggest waste of material known to mankind. The blade is something as strong as pot metal. It twisted out of shape just * the thing together. I ended getting one of my own 00 philips screwdrivers and using that. Next come forearms and calves. Thankfully, they just push right in to the arm and thigh sections that are part of the torso. You still have to add the hands, head and feet (already inserted in the boots - the smartest thing I've seen with a 12" figure)

    Overall: :thumbsdown . Too much work for a fancy toy. They could have supplied you with a preassembled body (minus hands, feet and head) and saved everyone a lot of grief. This is definitely not a kids toy in this regard. It's going to take some serious adult intervention.

    Armor:

    The armor is amazing. The scale is absolutely perfect. Usually with these types of things, the armor is either too big or too small. Here, the scale is dead on. With the right camera, in the right setting, you would think you were looking at the full size stuff.

    Everything is perfectly replicated from paint colors and scheme to the rivets on the backsides holding the straps. Every buckle is present and functional. The chest armor has the little door latch and padlock (which moves around and is removable - which I found out by accident). Even his little crotch key is there. The butt and ab armor is all one part of the torso armor.

    The shoulder bells are 2 piece, just like the film and allow for absolute flexibility without any restriction of movement.

    The helmet has the earcup on a strap so it moves as well as the lobstertail. The tail though, is all one piece as compared to 3 seperate plates. The earcup has the boom mic (which swivels) as well. There is a pull down IR sight in the helmet with cool little graphics on the screen.

    The leg armor is done perfectly as well. The shin, calf and knee plates are all seperate pieces held together by straps.

    The interesting thing about the armor is that the back of each piece is painted silver (to replicate the metal) and each strap is attached via a simulated rivet. Talk about going above and beyond the attention to detail.

    The only thing I didn't like is on the back armor. There is a bracket for sliding the shoulder light (which I'll describe later on) on. The problem is is that there is a second bracket which interferes with this. It's way too close to allow the light assembly to slide on. I ended up pulling it off and gluing it back on after the light was attached. I'm not happy about it, but there was no way around it.

    Only thing I would have liked to see done differently is the weathering - where is it? It looks like this armor just came from the metal shop. I may have to fix that with some silver rubn'buff

    Overall: :thumbsup :thumbsup (It's that good, despite the back armor issue)

    BDUs / clothing:

    They perfectly replicated the colors and that wierd frog pattern. All patches are present and accounted for. And on top of that, they're even legible.

    The sleeves come pre-rolled so you don't have to mess with that.

    The cut, size and drape are perfect for this figure.

    The boots are great. Real laces (though kind of hard to tie at that scale) and well done weathering - looks like they've seen some action

    Overall: :thumbsup Anyone who has collected 12" Hasbro star wars figures can attest to how bad clothing can ruin an otherwise cool figure.

    Weapons:

    The Pulse Rifle is near perfect. The proportions seem to be dead on. Both triggers are present (sometimes the GL trigger is missing even on full size replicas). The pump action actually pumps and the stock really extends. The clip is also removable, but alas, no simulated 10mm caseless rounds.

    My only 2 gripes with the PR is the sling in too short to function with the PR in the "rest" position (being carried at waist height) and the counter decal is white and reads 99 (instead of red and 95). Other than that, absolutely perfect.

    The VP70 is very cool. It has a removeable clip but no other function. It fits well in the holster.

    The Shotgun is kind of boring. The pump does not pump, but at least they used a close enough model.

    The knife looks just like a knife (I don't remember seeing them use it in the movies) but it is removable from it's gravity sheath on the webgear.

    It also comes with 6 individual PR grenades. Painted silver with a red stripe (though no red cap, so these suckers a ready to blow), they fit perfectly in to the web gear.

    Overall: :thumbsup The functionality of some of the weapons adds a really cool "WOW" factor.

    WEB GEAR:

    This essentially is the 2 vertical straps for the grenades, a web belt, a holster and two pouches.

    The VP70 holster is nice in that is exactly replicates that weird, quilted / upholstered look of the original.

    The grenades straps are scaled perfectly and fit the grenades just right. Usually, you'll end up with elastic loops that are either too loose (so the grenades constantly fall out) or too tight (so you can't get them in there to begin with and you just give up).

    It's nice to see that the two pouches are actually made of material instead of the plastic molded pouches you usually get with figures in this scale. I believe they're filled with foam, so I don't know if you can use them for actual storage.

    The shotgun holster (I know, techinically not web gear but wasn't sure where else it would fit) Actually looks like fake leather with that weird stitched look. It also appears to have a metal buckle on the chest strap, but I haven't verified it. The closing loop doesn't work a * though. It won't stay closed, but I guess nothing is perfect.

    Overall: :thumbsup The grenade straps and pouches are the saving grace of the otherwise boring web gear.

    The Doo-Dads:

    This figure comes with an enormous amount of doo-dads, which could either be a blessing or a curse.

    Included is Hicks' wrist watch / tracker. Nothing fancy, but you know what it is. You have to put this on his wrist before his hand, other wise, you'll end up taking his hand off later on. You also get the cylindrical tracker (the one Ripley uses to track Newt). Again, nothing facny; a black tube with some simple graphics.

    You also get some little strap that I can only figure out to be an arm band of some sort

    You also get the briefly seen welder/cutter. Since It's only seen on screen for a few seconds, I can't vouch for it's accuracy. But the screen moves and it has a strap for hanging it off the web belt.

    Now for the afforementioned shoulder lamp. It's built and painted so it looks like it has a bulb in it. The first time I looked at it, I had to do a double take. The lamp head rotates back and forth,and pivots side to side. the lamp also rotates at the base of the unit. The handle also has a bit of movement to it.

    And the piece de resistance, the motion tracker. It looks like a scaled down version of the MR tracker. The viewer rotates and has a decal that simulates the tracker screen. Every detail is present on that little sucker. Absolutely cool.

    Overall: :thumbsup Just for the accuracy and sheer number of gadgets you get.

    The Head:

    It's deffinately Michael Beihn, no doubt about it. The paint application and skin tones are great. My only beef is with his eyes. The way they painted them (at least on mine), it looks like he's having trouble staying awake.

    I'd say the likeness is 90% there. These things are never dead on accurate.

    Overall: :thumbsup Even a casual observer of the movie would know who it's supposed to be

    Directions:

    :thumbsdown . The instruction sheet is nothing more than 4 hand drawn panels that only sorta, kinda show where things go. They show a picture of the body on the left and the accessory they're talking about on the right. Then they use arrows to show you where on the body they're supposed to go. Only those intimate with the Aliens universe would have a full grasp of where and how things attach.

    Overall: Obvious :thumbsdown

    Figure Overall: :thumbsup :thumbsup Once it's built (which could take the better part of two hours) you will have one of the coolest 12" figures mankind has ever seen. The only problem is that you might give up on it before you ever get there.

    This figure is an excercise in patience and mecahnical know how. If you don't have one or the other, you may want to pay someone to build it for you. If you don't have either, stay far, far away :lol .

    Anyway, I'll try and get some pics up tonight for your viewing pleasure.

    Enjoy.

    -Fred
     
  2. phase pistol

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    Thanks Fred. Excellent review. :D

    I just got one of these figures myself yesterday, but didn't have time to look at it. Now I'm glad I didn't look at it before reading your review.

    I wonder if the figure was shipped as a "kit" for licensing reasons... also wonder if if might be easier to substitute a Dragon body that's already built. :unsure

    - k
     
  3. Gigatron

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    Ok, Here are the pics, as promised

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    Thanks to WC for hosting.

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  4. Gigatron

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    Hey Karl,

    The only reason I'd be hesitant to use a dragon body is the head attachment. I'm not sure which style dragon uses. Hot toys has a small ball joint down in the chest cavity that the head pops on to.

    Plus you'd have to pry the boots off the feet. Other than that though, I don't see any problems.

    -Fred
     
  5. saxe coburg

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    Looks cool. But the knife is "M9" bayonet... which were not used in the movie... in fact I don't think they were in use by the military at all untill 1990 or so.
     
  6. Pauleysolo

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    <div class='quotetop'>(saxe coburg @ Jun 29 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]1271157[/snapback]</div>
    Correct- the knife in the movie is an all black Gerber I believe
     
  7. hydin

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    whoa... cool figure but lipstick am bad.

    still.... the armor is fan friggin tastic. a lot better than i had hoped.

    chris
     
  8. JP05

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    [/quote]

    Correct- the knife in the movie is an all black Gerber I believe
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    Hudson yes.............Hicks no. Hicks had a different knife....Night Explorer is what mine says. But it was not a Gerber.
     
  9. CessnaDriver

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    It is an awesome figure.

    I dont collect many 12" figures but this one I HAD to have.

    I got it when it was under the Hot Toys name earlier.

    You do have to play dress up with it for quite some time.
    I felt like a little girl playing with my dolly, But it was worth it.

    He hangs out with my Palisades Aliens warrior statue.
     
  10. phase pistol

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  11. Fizbin

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    I donno, that's pretty cool and all, but for $15 more you can get one of these, USCM Rifleman Kit , which has been around far longer than Sideshow's offering and is actually a model kit so, you can build it any way you want. They also have a slew of other Aliens gear in the sixth scale format. I guess it's just the modeler in me that prefers the kit over the toy.

    At any rate, I've always loved Sideshow's efforts and this one ranks right up there with their best. Congrats on the new purchase. :)
     
  12. temponaut

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    <div class='quotetop'>(Gigatron @ Jun 30 2006, 12:52 AM) [snapback]1270734[/snapback]</div>
    "Somebody wake up Hicks." :p

    Thanks for the detailed review and photos, Fred.

    I got one of these figures (and one of each of the others in the series so far, Apone and Vasquez) as soon as they were released by Hot Toys several months ago. Each is terrifically detailed to the point of being a bit of a headache to assemble... but worth the effort in the end. I also must give very high marks to Hot Toys line of 1/6-scale Predator figures and the new RoboCop figure. I'm delighted and extremely impressed with each. Hot Toys seems to have tapped into what sixth scale collectors want and they are firing on all cylinders now. Upcoming releases include ED-209, two more Predators, an Alien warrior (16 inches.), and what looks to be an Aliens Ripley.

    Read more at Scifimilitary.com:

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    And on the Hot Toys homepage:

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    I believe that's exactly right, Karl.


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    Actually, I think it's 16 inches. At that height, it will still tower two inches over the Predator figures. :p
     
  13. temponaut

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    <div class='quotetop'>(alteregos @ Jun 30 2006, 01:01 PM) [snapback]1271233[/snapback]</div>
    :) The flip side of the coin, of course, is that for $15 less you can get the Hot Toys "kit," with the armor and equipment pre-assembled and pre-painted, and with an articulated figure, accurate BDUs, and custom stand included. :p

    That said, I also own a couple of EVA Models/Chris Chulamanis's 1/6-scale USCM Rifleman kits and related items... and you're right, they are outstanding. For the modeler who prefers to do it him- or herself, the EVA kits are the cat's meow. :thumbsup
     
  14. Treadwell

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    Wow, that's * cool. (For $85 it oughta be. :))

    The shotgun isn't being worn accurately. The strap needs to go across the front under the armor from right shoulder to left hip, and then outside the back armor up to the right shoulder again. The screenused leather holster didn't have that checkboard stitching, either, but oh well.

    While I'm nitpicking, the PR sling was not padded like that. It was just a wide nylon strap.

    But, again, wow.
     
  15. Gigatron

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    Glad everybody enjoyed the review and pics :D .

    Like I said, it's not 100% perfect, but 1:6 scale, it's * near.

    Tread, the directions for adding the accessories are non existant. You can't even go by the box pictures because they have the rifle sling goiong over both shoulders depending on which pic you look at :unsure . If you could get a screen cap of what you're talking about, I'd gladly fix it.

    I'd love to get a Ripley and an Alien, but display space is very tight. I may need to put up some more floating shelves. That alien is hella expensive though.

    -Fred
     
  16. dropshipbob

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    Hicks also didn't have that Spam can key on his crotch armor...that was Hudson.

    And it has been pretty much confirmed that Hot Toys directly recast some of EVA's model kit parts for their figure.
     
  17. temponaut

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    <div class='quotetop'>(dropshipbob @ Jun 30 2006, 11:07 PM) [snapback]1271415[/snapback]</div>
    Really?. This is sad to hear. :( Can you tell us more?
     
  18. Dean O

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    Plenty of gear which is cool but the face looks nothing like Hicks.
     
  20. HoundofCulaine

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    I had to buy one of these as soon as I'd seen them.

    The whole thing is great, although I'd totally agree with the problems building the figure (Why????), mine ended up so that the right shoulder isn't completey fitted into the post/latch perfectly, but it had taken so long to get it near to fitted (the left worked fine???) and I didn't want to risk damaging it, and hell it's not like I'm going to play dollys with it, so it isn't a major problem for display.

    Yeah having done a fair amount of work on a full size set of armour for me (in a Hudsonish fashion) I noticed the 'Spam' key on the groin was wrong. But then again wasn't there a lot of mix ups with the real props when they were sold/disposed, so they may have taken this from a reference pic that had a Huson groin with a Hicks chest.

    I personally hated the way the helmet sat on his head and removed the 'helmet liner' so it sat a bit lower at the back. It's like they haven't taken into account the 80's hair and assumed the hair would either be real (like an Action Man)

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    And yeah since this picture I have the shotgun straps under the shoulder armour, keeps it higher on his back otherwise it slips down all the time.
     
  21. Gigatron

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    <div class='quotetop'>(Dean O @ Jun 30 2006, 02:26 PM) [snapback]1271427[/snapback]</div>
    That's pretty cool, Dean :thumbsup . What's the deal with those? you have to paint everything yourself? That sounds like a lot of work. But * fine job if you did B) .

    Only thing it looks like it's missing is the VP70 and holster.

    -Fred
     
  22. Dean O

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    Thanks for the compliment. These are a resin model kit then put over a figure of your choice, everything is hand painted. The helmet was modified from a Blue Box WWII figure to be more accurate and lots of other custom work. If I'd only known Hot Toys would be making one soon. ;) I'm happy with mine now and I also have a Smart Gunner of the same type kit in the works.


    It is disappointing to hear that Hot Toys may have recast some of Chris' work. He's such a great guy. I hope it's not actually true.
     
  23. Treadwell

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    If they did, as a licensee it would've been within their (legal) right.
     
  24. Gigatron

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    If I were in Chris' position, I'd have mixed feelings. I'd be upset that some one recast my work, but on the other hand, I'd be honored that Hot Toys found my work good enough to recast (if that is indeed the case).

    The problem is, is that he really can't say anything to anyone. If he complains, Hot Toys would be within their rights to sue for copyright and/or license infringement.

    Hot Toys may not do anything to him because maybe they did use his work and they're allowing him to continue to exist as a thank you.

    Anyway, Dean, I'd love to see some pics of the other one you are working on.

    -Fred
     
  25. Dean O

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    I've not gotten much done on it but I have taken all the smart gun parts and installed them on a Dragon metal MG42. I'll dig those pics up and post them.
     
  26. Gigatron

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    Looking forward to seeing them. Always love a good scrathbuild :thumbsup

    -Fred
     
  27. Scapey

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    Looks sweet - wish I could afford one.
    Point : Shouldn't the buckles for the leg armour be on the outside?
     
  28. dropshipbob

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    This is pretty much how Chris felt about it. On the one hand, he didn't really have any room to complain, and on the other, he felt a little honored that they felt his stuff was good enough to re-use. He didn't have any legal ground to stand on, nor the time or money, so he had to just let it go.


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    Really?. This is sad to hear. :( Can you tell us more?
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    It's been more than a few months ago that this all came about...maybe even a year ago. Chris mentioned which parts were a direct recast of his, but I can't remember which. Although from first hand knowledge I can tell you they did use his helmet camera.
     
  29. Dean O

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    Here's the smartgun I've been working on for my next figure. Still needs a little work and some detail painting but it's mostly done.

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  30. dropshipbob

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    Nice work Dean. Looks ready to go to me.
     
  31. temponaut

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    Thanks for filling me in, DSB. I hadn't heard about this. Too bad Hot Toys didn't hire Chris as a sculptor or consultant. But I guess it could have been perceived as encouraging copyright infringement.

    Dean: Terrific job on your custom USCM figure. That looks amazing. :thumbsup
     
  32. Simba

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    Yeah, the face isn't so good, but the rest is great stuff. I have Apone coming. Just liked the character's 'tude :). You can always replace the head with one of Lonnie Hale's Hero Heads :)
     
  33. temponaut

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    Right. Jim Maddox's sculpt for Apone, in particular, is awesome. :eek
     
  34. Gigatron

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    Dean, that's a sweet looking gun :thumbsup . What are the details on that (pieces, etc.)?

    As far as the head sculpt, it has a bit better resemblance with the helmet off

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    I also went back and fixed the shotgun (as best as possible with the parts provided) and did some weathering on the armor. As far as the leg buckles, I can't find any definitive pics from the movie that say one way or another. All I can make out are the straps. But in scenes where both the inner and outer straps can be seen, I don't see the buckles.

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  35. Treadwell

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    Shin armor buckles are on the outsides, not that it matters much. :)
    See the scene in the drop ship right after they've all loaded inside and Hicks is slamming one of them closed.
     
  36. Gigatron

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    Shin armor buckles are on the outsides, not that it matters much. :)
    See the scene in the drop ship right after they've all loaded inside and Hicks is slamming one of them closed.
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    I looked at that scene and really couldn't determine what leg we were looking at. If it's his left leg, the buckles are on the outside, but if it's his right, they're on the inside. I'll have to watch again more closely.

    -Fred
     
  37. Zendragon

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    My understanding is that Hot Toys didn't get the release for the actors licenses, hence them not looking too much like the "actors"
     
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    Nice review/pics/figure, Fred. That attention to detail just floors me. :thumbsup

    So these figures are 1/6th scale? Too bad not 1/4 ;).

    How come they have an AvsP Alien and an Aliens marine? Why not an Aliens alien? :) Do they have plans for a similar scaled Alien Queen? If so, from which film, Aliens or AvsP?
     

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