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No, but it's not a matter of interpretation - it IS a skull BEFORE the storm hits. Er, guessing you missed the shot showing that? It's the one literally seconds or a second before the storm hits. I know the earlier one is quasi-ambiguous, but that one isn't.

That one isn't but it does still allow for my theory, which I kind of dig and fits. The face transforms into a skull as the storm is bearing down on them. I can live with that as well. I mean, the storm could just be coincidental but I like the idea that it wasn't. So yes, it is a skull RIGHT before the storm hits but the overhead shot is clear, at least to me.
 
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That one isn't but it does still allow for my theory, which I kind of dig and fits. The face transforms into a skull as the storm is bearing down on them. I can live with that as well. I mean, the storm could just be coincidental but I like the idea that it wasn't. So yes, it is a skull RIGHT before the storm hits but the overhead shot is clear, at least to me.
Even if the storm didn't carve the skull... the fact that both appear at the same time (if it was even a face before that) connects the two. It happens because people disturbed the site. One doesn't form the other... both appear because of what happens inside the silo.

If it was a skull the whole time... then the theory stands that the actions of the people still triggered the storm. They came to the room and activated the wrong stuff first - they aren't worthy, so are locked in to be killed off by their own stupidity. If they'd activated the right thing first... the outcome might have been very different.

Paraphrasing a wise knight at the end of Last Crusade: "They chose poorly".
 
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:rolleyesDid the sequel thread morph into the Promtheus Post Release thread in the last page?
 
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Oh, now I'm with you, Bryan. I thought mistakenly that you were holding to the 'erosion' argument. Okay!
 
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Oh, now I'm with you, Bryan. I thought mistakenly that you were holding to the 'erosion' argument. Okay!

Yeah, on my second viewing I saw that the skull was there just as the storm hit. And yes, we are now in the wrong thread.. :$
 
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It's not bettable really - we already KNOW that was the case, but the reality depends on the take.

When do you see the face? Check the shot just before the storm hits - it's clearly a skull in that.

When I went to see it the second time on IMAX, I made sure to watch closely for this. I believe it is a face. I would also agree that just before the storm hits, it looks like a skull. I think this is a deliberate effect, chosen to enhance the mood and make it more scary as the humans abandon the temple.

Charlie

EDIT: I just saw the rest of the posts. LOL. I stand by my argument. :)

Charlie
 
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:rolleyesDid the sequel thread morph into the Promtheus Post Release thread in the last page?

Yeah, start a skull thread or somethin, besides i saw it again in 3D and if you take your glasses off at the right time......its a sphinx of Jones the cat!
 
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Ok so back on track with the sequel - Had a thought, and perhaps it has already been said and i missed it.
What if......
Shaw makes it to the engineers home world, only to find they themselves have been wiped out or in the process of war, by another 'child' race as they found out the engineers had the same plans for their destruction.

I'm playing on the idea that the engineers created life on numerous worlds in a similar way (man dissolving) - Then based on the molecular make up and atmosphere of the planet, seeing what evolution brings.
The star map invitation, was merely a point whereby, when the race could evolve to the point where they could travel in space, that 'child' race would then of became a threat to the engineers and it was time to destroy.
Perhaps there were numerous worlds, the biological weapons were created to wipe them out when the engineers saw fit. The star map pointed to a world where a visiting party could be 'taken care of' without divulging the engineers true home planet location.
 
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I think at the end of the day..or series of films, Ridley does want this to connect back to ALIEN...just not too soon. So the next film will likely have a LOT more ALIEN connection in it's ending. Ridley cut a deal and the deal is he gets two movies, MAYBE three according to what he is saying, to bring this into ALIEN. He wants to do that, it would make for an amazing series of films.
 
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If it works out that way, it would probably see him out and the cue in the rack, finish with the universe that put him in a real position of power etc, has a nice symmetry about it. Want a BR2 first, but that in a second.

I dont think Scott is afraid to delve even deeper into the Alien universe with future tellings, I only ever expected him to tease us with Prometheus and he did it sweetly, it gives him many options with the story and its a powerful weapon to use when he really wants to connect with the audience, I know i sat up a little straighter when the music started for Weylands holo speech.
Its the old Seinfeld theory, a little of Cramer is perfect, too much, not so much.

Now, its still on topic, would you prefer to see Blade Runner 2 before Prometheus 2? If neither, too bad for you.
 
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Definitely a sequel to the prequel. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing the different aliens and to think, the space jockies mess with DNA, that leaves endless possibilities. Could it stay in universe? I think so, it would simply be a seperate story line.

Bottom line, Prometheus was not AVP and AVPR, which is good IMHO!
 
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Perhaps there were numerous worlds, the biological weapons were created to wipe them out when the engineers saw fit. The star map pointed to a world where a visiting party could be 'taken care of' without divulging the engineers true home planet location.
That's interesting, but if that were the case, it's odd that they would have abandoned that weapons depot, and just let it be for 2000 years. With functioning ships left there, loaded with stuff that the humans, or any race they created, could take back to the Engineers real home world, or worlds. Not to mention directions in those ships on how to get there.

That stuff can clearly do as much damage to the Engineers as it does to the life they created. One would think they would have completely destroyed the place once it became a hazard to them. Unless it was a place created in secret, and no Engineer escaped to tell the others. Someone mentioned the idea of competing factions of Engineers with different agendas that could play into a storyline.
 
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That's just concept art from Prometheus. I do not like the title "Paradise". Loved Prometheus as a title, and a film. Looking forward to the sequel, but I hope they change the name. Prometheus was once titled Paradise as well, glad they changed, hope they do it again.

:)
 
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LOL... they could call it... When Worlds Collide... oh wait... War of the Worlds... wait... Hammerstein... no, that's not right... Absolution.
 
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