2022 Kenobi Series Lightsaber Screen Caps SPOILERS

[benhs1898]

I meant romans anh mk1. I just checked his site and i guess he calls his rots saber a mk1 as well.

The prop master really wanted my real parts obi. And he really wanted the original obi in the show.

His ROTS is called the Inception. It's just in the MK1 section.

 

[SlyFox]

So if I'm following this correctly...

Obi McGregor uses an Episode III MR with an A New Hope emitter by Roman.

The Luke hilt is an A New Hope MR.

Vader is an Episode III MR.

Is that correct?

Vader’s saber is a Master Replicas ‘2002 Limited Edition Episode IV: ANH Darth Vader’

Kenobi’s is a Master Replicas ‘2005 Limited Edition Episode III: ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi’ modified with a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter.

Future Luke/Anakin’s old saber is a Master Replicas ‘2006 Limited Edition Episode IV: ANH Luke Skywalker’

 

[onderon]

Vader’s saber is a Episode IV Master Replicas ‘2002 Limited Edition ANH Darth Vader’

Kenobi’s is a Master Replicas ‘2005 Limited Edition Episode III ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi’ modified with a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter.


Future Luke/Anakin’s old saber is a Master Replicas ‘2006 Limited Edition Episode IV ANH Luke Skywalker’

Is this 100% confirmed or still an assumption?

 

[Halliwax]

Roman may not be “able” to confirm it’s his balance pipe. But I can.. each artist hides tells in their work

And thanks to some friends at celebration they got me photos of what I needed

That balance pipe is 1000% Roman’s

 

[Halliwax]

Yes correct, the clamp card graphic & pommel cubes tell it’s a Master Replicas, which was originally based on the promo saber pictured in the visual dictionary as I’m sure you’re aware.

Another very obvious major tell is this Gear/Cog detail matches the Master Replicas promo saber exactly, as opposed to the screen used prop which is considerably different.
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Also the black middle clamp card section sticks out both ends of the control box a little
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Other obvious tells are the exact shape of the grenade grip section and it’s grooves and cuts. The exact identical Thin-Neck features. The small step on the top edges of the pommel cubes, and the “T-track style” booster section as I like to call it.
I’m also like 99.9% certain that’s a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter.

Thanks for confirming!

 

[JunkSabers1138]

Kinda shocked that they are going with MR hilts given that they are rarer and more costly, not to mention the inaccuracies in details/measurenents/construction, when you have all these modern saber kits which are far cheaper, more readily available, and more mod-friendly to fill any necessary production role as needed.

It's just all so... baffling...

 

[Obi1Kenobi]

His ROTS is called the Inception. It's just in the MK1 section.

Roman already has a “mash-up” of the two…

Elite / Mk1 Mash-Up Weathered - ETA: Mid-Late June 2022 WAVE #2 - Roman Props | Roman's Empire

 

[Obi1Kenobi]

Vader’s saber is a Episode IV Master Replicas ‘2002 Limited Edition ANH Darth Vader’ View attachment 1580595

Kenobi’s is a Master Replicas ‘2005 Limited Edition Episode III ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi’ modified with a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter.
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Future Luke/Anakin’s old saber is a Master Replicas ‘2006 Limited Edition Episode IV ANH Luke Skywalker’View attachment 1580597

This makes me wonder why they didn’t also use a Master Replicas Obi-Wan Kenobi ANH version. They were available either weathered or as first built, and the other two sabers above are ANH versions. My guesses are they either didn’t have one available or they intentionally wanted a hybrid of ROTS and ANH. I guess it was the latter, based on what coolhanluked said about them turning down the opportunity to use an all real parts ANH style saber.

 

[SlyFox]

Kinda shocked that they are going with MR hilts given that they are rarer and more costly,

I wouldn’t be surprised if Lucasfilm already had these in their possession from the archives or something.
Probably not as extensive as ‘Rancho Obi-Wan’s’ collection or anything but I’m willing to bet they have several production examples from these MR products on hand. I do know for a fact the Artist Proofs all had to be approved by Lucasfilm back when Master Replicas was making these.

 

[SethS]

They were part of the process sure, but they wouldn’t go putting them in the archives as they don’t have any provenance to being in the films. They’ve gone on to be rare, but there’s nothing really special about mass production licensed products. Their collectability is speculative at best. The archives are built around actual production items.

I said off the shelf before assuming these were things that were easy to buy, but if the cost of the MRs is more than current replicas it really is baffling. I hate to say it because it’s not professional, but it now it feels like somebody in the prop chain wanted their personal saber to be on screen and brought it from home. I always hate when people say this (like we have seen for Luke’s Mando saber) because it’s just not professional… but man this choice is beyond baffling and this makes sense.

 

[Dewy]

They were part of the process sure, but they wouldn’t go putting them in the archives as they don’t have any provenance to being in the films. They’ve gone on to be rare, but there’s nothing really special about mass production licensed products. Their collectability is speculative at best. The archives are built around actual production items.

I said off the shelf before assuming these were things that were easy to buy, but if the cost of the MRs is more than current replicas it really is baffling. I hate to say it because it’s not professional, but it now it feels like somebody in the prop chain wanted their personal saber to be on screen and brought it from home. I always hate when people say this (like we have seen for Luke’s Mando saber) because it’s just not professional… but man this choice is beyond baffling and this makes sense.

For what it’s worth (probably not too much) I got a tour of Skywalker ranch ~4 years ago, and I saw several Master Replicas sabers in various displays around. Unfortunately I couldn’t take pictures inside any buildings, and I don’t recall seeing any ROTS replicas. I, of course, didn’t get to go inside the archives.

 

[Joek3rr]

They would just traced over the scan back then, so they could easily keep that detail in there. It's not hard to replicate with traditional poly modeling. The only hard thing about making this saber is having the correct measurements.

I wonder if they didn't idealize the saber a bit.

I just find it funny that this newest saber matches the MR in coloration and orientation everything...... except that center mark on the pommel. The two props that have and will be auctioned both have marks. The MR has a mark that looks like first saber that was auctioned.(a center hole with a small circle outside it.)

 

[SlyFox]

I’m not saying it came from the film archives per say, I just meant Lucasfilm likely already had them on hand somewhere.
I know for a fact they have Master Replicas sabers on display at the ranch.

 

[AnubisGuard]

I hate to say it because it’s not professional, but it now it feels like somebody in the prop chain wanted their personal saber to be on screen and brought it from home. I always hate when people say this (like we have seen for Luke’s Mando saber) because it’s just not professional… but man this choice is beyond baffling and this makes sense.

I'm not sure it even needs to be that sinister – it may be a time/money thing, and a prop guy loaning from his personal connection is faster and cheaper than other options. Being basically free in a pinch.

 

[Edraven99]

Vader’s saber is a Master Replicas ‘2002 Limited Edition Episode IV: ANH Darth Vader’

Kenobi’s is a Master Replicas ‘2005 Limited Edition Episode III: ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi’ modified with a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter.

Future Luke/Anakin’s old saber is a Master Replicas ‘2006 Limited Edition Episode IV: ANH Luke Skywalker’

If they did use the MR hilts for the Luke and the Vader they could also have used the signature versions as they're the exact same hilts with a different stamp on the pommel.

 

[SethS]

I'm not sure it even needs to be that sinister – it may be a time/money thing, and a prop guy loaning from his personal connection is faster and cheaper than other options. Being basically free in a pinch.

True— but Coolhandluke had a legit real-parts ANH for them to use and they chose not to. To not use that or either of Romans Empire fully realized pieces breaks my brain. At the very least they could have scanned them to make their own.

 

[janglesworthy]

I wonder if they didn't idealize the saber a bit.

I just find it funny that this newest saber matches the MR in coloration and orientation everything...... except that center mark on the pommel. The two props that have and will be auctioned both have marks. The MR has a mark that looks like first saber that was auctioned.(a center hole with a small circle outside it.)

my guess is because they made it from scratch and didn't put it in, or it got lost in the molding?

 

[SlyFox]

I just find it funny that this newest saber matches the MR in coloration and orientation everything...... except that center mark on the pommel. The MR has a mark that looks like first saber that was auctioned.(a center hole with a small circle outside it.

Remember the belt hanger on the Celebration costume display is definitely a resin or rubber stunt cast!;

Where as the Hero Saber Prop is a metal Master Replicas modified with a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter;

I can guarantee the bottom of the pommel on this metal Hero Prop has this Center Hole & Ring.

You can see these details here.

 

[AnubisGuard]

True— but Coolhandluke had a legit real-parts ANH for them to use and they chose not to. To not use that or either of Romans Empire fully realized pieces breaks my brain. At the very least they could have scanned them to make their own.

I'm thinking of the Graflex as much as anything – quick and easy for the insert shot, if someone on production owned one.

 

[Joek3rr]

Remember the belt hanger on the Celebration costume display is definitely a resin or rubber stunt cast!;View attachment 1580712

Where as the Hero Saber Prop is a metal Master Replicas modified with a Roman Props balance pipe Emitter;View attachment 1580713
I can guarantee the bottom of the pommel on this metal Hero Prop has this Center Hole & Ring.View attachment 1580714
You can almost see these details here
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That's what I'm wondering though? What is that Celebration saber cast from? I would think that center mark would have shown up in some capacity if cast from the MR. Maybe they scanned MR mash up to make a 3D printed positive and didn't bother to do the bottom of the pommel?

I'm also pretty certain that have at least one scratch made "hero." The one seen on the poster has different details. The cuts in the grip don't look as deep. The "teeth" on the greeblie are thinner. And there isn't a space between the booster and the pommel. I kinda think that's the one seen in the box. And is what Hasbro based their FX on.