2008 SIDKIT for $450 shipped a good deal?

Delmustator

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The other night, I was bidding on a 2008 SIDKIT on eBay. It supposedly sold for $450 plus shipping. Well this evening I received a second chance offering.

You think $450 shipping was a good deal? I know they have gone for well over a grand in the past.

I was a little leery of the purchase but the seller has 100% positive feedback. I thought with the passing of Siderio, no more SIDKITs would be available. But looking at the past sales of this guy, I think they are being produced again.

Thoughts?

If this is in fact the case and I keep the SIDKIT. I think my Hartford will go up for sale. I'm not sure at the moment what I will do... Gotta do some research...
 
Based on how frequently these are poppoing up on eBay auctions from the same seller, I'd assumed they were back in production, albeit without Sid, of course.
 
$450.00 is a good price to be sure - if its a worldcon.

As for the frequency of their popping up? Sid's business partner (Michele) has taken over all of his infrastructure but he claims he's only skilled enough to do resin blasters. That said, he does from time to time release full metal blasters which are claimed to be left-overs from Sid's original castings. Its fair to assume that Sid had a lot of parts he hadn't paired up with complete kits so I guess this explanation IS feasible.

In the end, I guess it comes around to how much you actually want it (as to if you're happy with this claim of 'spare parts') but as I said at the opening, I feel that $450 for a Worldcon version is a sweet deal indeed.

Good hunting

Regards

MARK
 
And if you don't mind buying a recasted model.

It was made off one of my models.

No lets not start a fight, I am posting this as there are a lot of newcomers who never heard about how Sid bought one of my model 3s and made copies.

I have no problem with the OFF World nor the Hartford.

I just want it said here.

Rich
 
Plus, I believe that Rich's version is the only model currently available that is relatively accurate (from a materials perspective) to the original. Remember, the ammo housing on the original is not metal...
 
And if you don't mind buying a recasted model.

It was made off one of my models.

No lets not start a fight, I am posting this as there are a lot of newcomers who never heard about how Sid bought one of my model 3s and made copies.

I have no problem with the OFF World nor the Hartford.

I just want it said here.

Rich

Rich, this comment is both uncalled for and unnecessary. Irrespective of how other people might perceive your tussle with Sid, your point of difference regarding his initial use of your parts is long over..

Let it go mate because after all, you will always be remembered for your irreplaceable contribution to the BR franchise.

Sid is over and so is this futile point scoring..

@propstuf. I can't disagree with your point regarding RAC's offering - its excellent. Don't forget though that in the end, Sid supplied both metal and resin versions of the magazine housing with his Worldcon.

Regards

MARK
 
The other night, I was bidding on a 2008 SIDKIT on eBay. It supposedly sold for $450 plus shipping. Well this evening I received a second chance offering.

You think $450 shipping was a good deal? I know they have gone for well over a grand in the past.

I was a little leery of the purchase but the seller has 100% positive feedback. I thought with the passing of Siderio, no more SIDKITs would be available. But looking at the past sales of this guy, I think they are being produced again.

Thoughts?

If this is in fact the case and I keep the SIDKIT. I think my Hartford will go up for sale. I'm not sure at the moment what I will do... Gotta do some research...
What is a Sidkit ,Im curious ,is that a company that makes props or is that a Prop, Im sorry ,dont know just curious to learn what it is for 450.00 it must be something great......I have heard something about it before in a forum somewhere ,but cannot remember ,OOOPS OLD AGE KICKED IN, MEMORY GONE ,WHO AM I ??? LOL
 
I think racprops is fine in stating his post. I am new and I don't know the story about his tussle (nor do I really care). What I do care about is the paper trail (or recasting trail). If I can follow a piece back to "this was recast and modified from a piece that was cast from the original prop," or "this was hand sculpted by some guy and then recast and modified by me" that is important.

I find the complaints of recasting movie replicas to be intriguing, but it is the origins of the pieces that are important. IDK if his claim is true, and it did come off slightly bitter, but if I were buying this piece, I would like to be made aware of the claim. This site is about sharing and information.
 
Rich, I'm well aware of the tussle between yourself and the late Siderio. I really wish that situation would have ended differently and I know your still bitter. So your comments have been noted.

But this thread is NOT about YOU or SIDERIO.

So having said that, I purchased the SIDKIT because I wanted one in my collection. Plain and simple. No politics, no choosing sides, no calling Christie's to have the history of the prop researched and verified. After all, I'm a prop collector. Under that definition, I collect whatever props interest me. As with all my props in my collection. If they do not meet with my expectations, they are sold (just like the OffWorld MFG. was a year or so ago). And I will seek a replacement of higher quality and craftsmanship. As a consumer, that's all I want. So give me what I want and I'll pay you for it.

That's not to say that I would not WANT a RacProps BR in my collection next. I'd also like to get a Tomenosuke version sometime in the future. But today, the SIDKIT is on my radar.
 
Delmustator, Thanks for your answer.

I am cool with it. As long as you made a informed choice, and understood the conductions, that is all I ever wanted.

Kramstar: it is not over if someone is still making them and selling them. Only the name of the recaster has changed.

And with all the newcomers, I feel I must post this fact when another post talks about buying a Sidkit copy of my work, so they can also make a informed choice.

Handsolo: thanks for your post, please check out RacProps Issue 4 - Project Blade Runner Part 1 - Page 1 and other articles at Welcome To RacProps, I did not think to put a date of article but this is way back in 1997/98, way before any of the other models, and it will show you all the work we did.

Granted I had a pro-prop maker made copy of a stunt prop blaster to help. And I had been making versions of this blaster from 1985.

I hope all the old posts are still here so anyone that wants to know can look these up.

I will point out this has been fought out on three forums, and that in all three, I more or less won my points...final word was yes he did indeen recast me, and like Delmustator, many choice to buy anyway.

The sad fact, unlike most dirty recasters whom make crappy cheap copies, Sid did make a nearly as good copy of my models as I did and sold kits cheaply, were I did not sell kits.

Many defended him because of this, and many tried to denied that he had indeed recast, and that was what all the fighting was about..about the fact of recasting, not people buying them, I know I can not stop that.

Rich
 
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Rich makes some good points (while having every right to) and is not in any way being hostile. We do have a duty to know the provenance of our pieces. If knowing makes us uncomfortable, then that's on our heads, not Rich's. And if it doesn't bother us.. well, that's on our heads as well. *shrug*.
 
As I have owned one of the many incarnations of the C,S,&T as well as both the original Sid-Kit and World-Con Blaster's, I'd say definately go with the Sid-Kit!
The original is easy to up-grade with a few findable pieces and the World-Con is simply SPOT ON.
If you can get one at that price I'd say GRAB IT!
My 2 cents
 
Mutant-Enemy formerly once-bitten is one of my distractors whom was banned from propsummit for using sock puppet accounts in his effords to hassle me.

Rich
 
Mutant Enemy wrote ;
As I have owned one of the many incarnations of the C,S,&T as well as both the original Sid-Kit and World-Con Blaster's, I'd say definately go with the Sid-Kit!
The original is easy to up-grade with a few findable pieces and the World-Con is simply SPOT ON.
If you can get one at that price I'd say GRAB IT!
My

Seems fair enough to me, no raggin on anyone in this appraisle, hardly worthy of such a venomous responce.
 
Del, ya gonna post some pics when you have the piece in hand?

I can but it will not be a finished piece. It's basically raw metal. I have to do some research and review the hero pics. I know there are a lot of really nice examples in folks collections here.

Just curious how the 2008 WorldCon SIDKIT compares to the latest RacProps version. NO this is not putting fuel on the fire. Don't go there! I'm just interested to see if the WorldCon version looks just like a recast of the RacProps? Granted that since the hero prop surfaced and many detailed pictures have been circulated. I would expect both to match the hero in every respect.

In the end, I just want something nice displayed in my man cave.
 
Rich, I'm well aware of the tussle between yourself and the late Siderio. I really wish that situation would have ended differently and I know your still bitter. So your comments have been noted.

But this thread is NOT about YOU or SIDERIO.

That's not to say that I would not WANT a RacProps BR in my collection next. I'd also like to get a Tomenosuke version sometime in the future. But today, the SIDKIT is on my radar.

Delmustator;1367458 has made his point.

Rich, You are being deliberately selective and with the information you are sharing. What you've said is not - as you well know - the whole story.

For heaven's sake, Sid is dead
Let it go.!

Mark
 
There is no real other truth, no other story.

He recast my model and I even have his word on it as he admitted it on prosummit. Done deal no disscution.

And there is anough real new work to my model that you can not say I recasted a studio model and did no work on it, my articles shows that, so I can call it my own.

And as long as some one is MAKING them and selling them it is not over, only the name of the recaster has changed.

And the newcomers need to be informed.

Those that care may not buy, those that price is all improtant may buy, and some will buy now as it is a part of our history, but those should buy units made before Sids passing, not new models, as only the ones made BY Sid rate a historial stand.

Look I have had my say, prople are now imformed.

Delmustator, he was still using my older bulldog with the 6 screws, and other little mistakes from my older model...

Check out Blade Runner - Take Five, the WorldCon Model for some of the details.

Rich
 
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