Mr Mold Maker
Master Member
Re: The Definitive BvS: Dawn Of Justice Batsuit Research Thread
I would politely ask we drop this discussion completely. I am no longer participating in this thread because we have folks in here who are spitting in the face of accuracy and would rather argue and bicker than just discuss the suit. When someone asks a question, and I give an answer.. I have been met with nothing but arguments, insults, and frankly I am done with it. Temper tantrum? Sure. Agitated? You're damn right I am. I don't just "know" some Ironhead people. If you think that's all it takes, you're mistaken and best of luck trying to get any information. Do I have photos? Yes. Can I share them? No.. Of course not. As a professional courtesy I'd never release photos and information given to me in confidence... What I have shared? It's what I CAN share. These guys are under NDAs for quite a long time.. The photos will come out when they can. That I promise you.
The fabric? It's a stretch material.. But it is not spandex. I can't tell you the color code.. I can't tell you the shades used. I don't know. I can say it was screened in three layers, as speculated here. I can say the ink used isn't silver.. It's a gun metal grey, and that the top coat is what gives it that silver look.. I can say that the muscle suit was cast in dark grey.. I can say the cowl was cast using an 8 piece collapsible core. Run in foam latex.. I can say the inside was a work of art. Practically sculpted.. With harder parts inserted for symmetry.. And softer parts for movement. To get the proper wrinkling.. As I've said before, the statues are not accurate in pattern nor color. Only one of the six has a real suit on it.. And even that one was an unfinished and unpainted one. It was the LA premier. But all I've contributed was the colors painted on the suit? Really?
None of my information is speculation. It's not a guess. It's what I've directly been told by people involved in the making of the suit. I've offered many times to answer specific questions and if I didn't know something, I would ask. No one has taken that offer.
I've done more than enough.. Reached my hand out.. And had people spit in my face over it. Call it a temper tantrum... As I call it a statue.. In the end, it doesn't matter. But it's cool guys, I'm glad you all agree it's not a statue. That's what is REALLY important here.
You're all doing very well so far, and I do enjoy seeing at least some people here can come together and work on a mutual goal.. I truly look forward to seeing the finished fabric you all come up with, and best of luck.
Again, I'd politely ask you drop this discussion and move on with the thread. This will be the last word from me. Any further inquiries? Feel free to PM me.
I would politely ask we drop this discussion completely. I am no longer participating in this thread because we have folks in here who are spitting in the face of accuracy and would rather argue and bicker than just discuss the suit. When someone asks a question, and I give an answer.. I have been met with nothing but arguments, insults, and frankly I am done with it. Temper tantrum? Sure. Agitated? You're damn right I am. I don't just "know" some Ironhead people. If you think that's all it takes, you're mistaken and best of luck trying to get any information. Do I have photos? Yes. Can I share them? No.. Of course not. As a professional courtesy I'd never release photos and information given to me in confidence... What I have shared? It's what I CAN share. These guys are under NDAs for quite a long time.. The photos will come out when they can. That I promise you.
The fabric? It's a stretch material.. But it is not spandex. I can't tell you the color code.. I can't tell you the shades used. I don't know. I can say it was screened in three layers, as speculated here. I can say the ink used isn't silver.. It's a gun metal grey, and that the top coat is what gives it that silver look.. I can say that the muscle suit was cast in dark grey.. I can say the cowl was cast using an 8 piece collapsible core. Run in foam latex.. I can say the inside was a work of art. Practically sculpted.. With harder parts inserted for symmetry.. And softer parts for movement. To get the proper wrinkling.. As I've said before, the statues are not accurate in pattern nor color. Only one of the six has a real suit on it.. And even that one was an unfinished and unpainted one. It was the LA premier. But all I've contributed was the colors painted on the suit? Really?
None of my information is speculation. It's not a guess. It's what I've directly been told by people involved in the making of the suit. I've offered many times to answer specific questions and if I didn't know something, I would ask. No one has taken that offer.
I've done more than enough.. Reached my hand out.. And had people spit in my face over it. Call it a temper tantrum... As I call it a statue.. In the end, it doesn't matter. But it's cool guys, I'm glad you all agree it's not a statue. That's what is REALLY important here.
You're all doing very well so far, and I do enjoy seeing at least some people here can come together and work on a mutual goal.. I truly look forward to seeing the finished fabric you all come up with, and best of luck.
Again, I'd politely ask you drop this discussion and move on with the thread. This will be the last word from me. Any further inquiries? Feel free to PM me.
Jawafive, no one was agitating Mr. Moldmaker. Someone questioned whether there was blue, gold, silver, and bronze on the actual costume. As a result, he left the thread and deleted every single one of his posts. I perceive that as throwing a temper tantrum. I think he should have thicker skin than that.
Aside from that, I'm very glad that everyone knows Jose. I'm impressed. I truly am, and I'm glad that everyone has inside information on how the suit was created. But has anyone privileged with this information contributed anything tangible to the group effort of trying to reproduce the suit? Did they tell us the type of fabric used? No. Did they tell us what specific color the fabric was? No. Did they tell us the method used to create the texture? No. Did they tell us the paint code of blue, gold, silver, and bronze used? No. Did they have a completed reference photo for us to emulate? No. So the only bit of information I got from Mr. Moldmaker is: unless you have Blue, Gold, Silver, and Bronze on your costume, it's not definitive. While I don't doubt Mr. Moldmaker, and I'm appreciative of that bit of information, it has had little impact so far on what we're doing.
At least I've postulated about 3D printing, screen printing, provided SLR photos, looked up possible screen printing companies, and I've contacted Kiyominai (as isunk suggested). Teragon has gone through the trouble of actually designing a pattern and learning about screen printing. Banner has provided his expertise about screen printing. And tons of other people have provided their enthusiasm and support. So forgive me if I don't bow down and kiss someone's feet because that person knows Jose/Ironhead staff.
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