AJRand
Sr Member
Aj, how do you explain the type of leather used to make the xmart jacket looking like a true vintage 1970's leather? How do you explain that everyone seems to be able to point out that the leather used to make xmart's jacket in no way looks modern? If they replicated it, then they got a vintage leather to replicate it? Are you saying xmart's jacket wasnt even part of the production? Are you saying that somebody took pictures of the screen used jacket and had it replicated and past it off as a screen used jacket? Below I posted a bit from an interview with Michael Kaplan talking about Fight Club.
Brad Pitt
Fight Club
He's very easy going, very laid-back, he's fun, he's funny, loves clothes, loves to collaborate and he doesn't just want to wear anything. He is clear who the character is and that is important to me and we have a great professional relationship. In Fight Club, his character had no money, he was living in a house that didn't belong to him and his clothes couldn't be fancy. I decided he was going to be a person who gets great things in thrift shops, because I do that and I know they can be found. The problem was that we needed multiples – I couldn't just go to a thrift store and buy him a great leather jacket because of the fighting scenes and stunt doubles. We needed maybe 12 of the jackets. I made his clothes and found this old, hard leather base they used to make jackets out of in the 1970s – it's almost like car upholstery, not like the soft, buttery leather they use now. I had it dyed and I wanted it to be the colour of dried blood. We designed it and fashioned it after the way clothes were made then but it looked like it was from a thrift shop – we broke some buttons, tore the lining and put stains on it to make it look like something somebody wouldn't want anymore.
1) No one on these forums have the credentials to identify a leather or garment being from the 1970's. Especially not from a picture. I doubt Jonathan could even identify with it and he has been working with leather non-stop since age 7. Lets be real on that. It could only be 10 years old for all we know.
2) Vintage leather? You make it sound like cows and lambs (Lambs in this case assuming it is lambskin) evolved differently then how they were in the 1970's. Technically, you could take a leather and do whatever you want with it. I was in Jonathan's shop he has Mayhem Jackets he just made that he distressed and they look 30 years old.
3) What I am saying is we have two conflicting stories. On one hand, we have Jonathan stating that he was brought several jackets and from those jacket he created the Fight Club jacket. He has the credentials of working on 100's of massive production movies, he has the original pattern, and he has the original muslins worn by Brad Pitt during fittings. On the other hand, we have this jacket which if this is the case then Jonathan didn't create the jacket which would invalidate everything he said.
4) Regarding that "interview" Rupert stated the jacket was thin than the leather we use now. That interview states it was thick and tough like car upholstery which sounds like a calf skin. When I asked Jonathan, leather does not grow thinner over time because I had asked if my calf skins would become thin like a lambskin even with distressing and he said no.