I truly didn't mean to start and rivet counting discussion... I'm just surprised that no one else has said anything about this til now. I sit and look at the magazine and their painting instructions in Issue 19 makes alot of sense but yet, it still comes out too dark and everyone assumes that's the way its suppose to be without actually looking at reference pics of the falcon itself to see just how far off those instructions are. They are right in the fact that you should create a shadow like layer... start with the darker tones and then build up the lighter tones to create more contrast... but their example truly is under par for trying to get the point across. In the end, the darker colors are suppose to create an illusion of shadows. The entire pit is in and of itself the same color as the hull itself. You're just creating the illusion of shadow and light play with the colors you use. The details closer to the surface should be about the same color as the hull panels. The ones deeper inside should be a bit darker but not black. That's all I'm saying and was trying to get across. I've seen so many build logs of this thing from so many different people building and the one thing that keeps poking out at me is why they are painting them so dark when clearly they aren't. I understand that not everyone has the same painting skills and there are alot of beginners doing this kit. but chalking it up to "everyone should paint it the way they want to and are happy with" feels like a cop out. Alot of us here are pros and have been at this for a long long time. I'm not slighting DV's work at all... frankly I think your work is beautiful DV! You're doing an awesome job from what I've seen so far. But if we notice something and offer a little friendly advice, we not only help those that are working on the kit, but also inspire those that are watching the builds themselves and give them ideas on bettering their craft. I know my biggest flaw is my OCD, but it's also a gift too. I see details in things that many don't. I've tried curbing it, but when it gets to a certain point, I can't help but speak up and point it out. We are all here for each other, to better ourselves and our work. To inspire each other to do better and give advice to those that may have missed something. Not in the spirit of being mean, or just to hear yourself talk, but to guide each other. Keep up the good work DV... I truly love what you've done so far.