Emu Replica

[riceman]

Does anyone know if the newer EMU has a cage around the shoulder? Like the xEMU. And does anyone have any ideas I could employ for the locking mechanism for the helmet and neck ring? The first image is the older EMU and the second is the newer EMU. And does anybody know what cloth i can use in replacement of orthofabric?

 

[TazMan2000]

For a second I was hoping you were replicating this:

TazMan2000

 

[riceman]

For a second I was hoping you were replicating this:

TazMan2000

bruh

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Yeah I was thinking maybe the Emu from that Liberty insurance commercial (please kill those...).

 

[ajaxjones]

That's why I came here

For a second I was hoping you were replicating this:

TazMan2000

 

[TazMan2000]

That's why I came here

Perhaps the confusion is Emu vs. EMU.

TazMan2000

 

[joberg]

Does anyone know if the newer EMU has a cage around the shoulder? Like the xEMU. And does anyone have any ideas I could employ for the locking mechanism for the helmet and neck ring? The first image is the older EMU and the second is the newer EMU. And does anybody know what cloth i can use in replacement of orthofabric?

You could PM imgill

 

[riceman]

You could PM imgill

how i am new to this

 

[TazMan2000]

Hover over the link lmgill , then select "Start conversation".

You could also do what Space 1999 did for their suits. Just make a neck ring slightly larger than the helmet and have latches or screws on the sides. Or you can small magnets to hold the helmet in place.

TazMan2000

 

[TazMan2000]

You could PM imgill

Its actuall LMGILL. Surprised me as well.

TazMan2000

 

[riceman]

Hover over the link lmgill , then select "Start conversation".

You could also do what Space 1999 did for their suits. Just make a neck ring slightly larger than the helmet and have latches or screws on the sides. Or you can small magnets to hold the helmet in place.

TazMan2000

nah i wan it to lock the same way it does in real life by sliding it over and having pins come out and go into holes in the neck ring

 

[TazMan2000]

nah i wan it to lock the same way it does in real life by sliding it over and having pins come out and go into holes in the neck ring

My suggestion works the same way, but you can modify it by having the helmet go around the neck ring and not inside it.

TazMan2000

 

[lmgill]

So some EMU info
When you say "cage" I'm not sure to what you are referring. There is a shoulder style, developed by Litton for the extended Apollo missions, called a rolling convolute, which was further developed on the Mark II suit. Is this what you are calling a cage?
There were two styles of EMU HUT, one with an articulated bearing at the shoulder (single plane) and another without the articulation, with just a fixed bearing. There is a FRP HUT on Orbital Surplus right now that was made using a real hard upper torso plug.
As far at helmet disconnects with 8 retracting pins.
These are pretty complex, requiring about 35 precisely machined parts in stainless steel and aluminum. The aluminum must be anodized, otherwise the aluminum is to "waxy/ sticky" to make things move smoothly.
In the near future, I will be offering some Gemini / S-1030 beringed helmet disconnects that are nearly identical to the real ones (only missing internal seals) with a16 pin engagement, they will be in the $3500 price range. But these are an 1" smaller in diameter than the EMU rings and do not have the proper HUT mounting surface arrangement.

Here is the ring without anodizing. (Gemini would be light blue and the S-1030 is Class 1 anodizing, which is a mottled light grey with a black release)

A less expensive alternative is ball detents or spring plungers.
As far as material, we have not found a substitute for the Ortho fabric that looks close. Most replica suits just use a Nylon or pack cloth fabric, which we use on our lower grade suit replicas, as Ortho fabric is not being made, unless custom ordered, and if some is available it's $450/yrd.

Yes, it is LMGILL

 

[lmgill]

Here is an image of the 2 variations of the EMU Hard Upper Torso

 

[riceman]

So some EMU info
When you say "cage" I'm not sure to what you are referring. There is a shoulder style, developed by Litton for the extended Apollo missions, called a rolling convolute, which was further developed on the Mark II suit. Is this what you are calling a cage?
There were two styles of EMU HUT, one with an articulated bearing at the shoulder (single plane) and another without the articulation, with just a fixed bearing. There is a FRP HUT on Orbital Surplus right now that was made using a real hard upper torso plug.
As far at helmet disconnects with 8 retracting pins.
These are pretty complex, requiring about 35 precisely machined parts in stainless steel and aluminum. The aluminum must be anodized, otherwise the aluminum is to "waxy/ sticky" to make things move smoothly.
In the near future, I will be offering some Gemini / S-1030 beringed helmet disconnects that are nearly identical to the real ones (only missing internal seals) with a16 pin engagement, they will be in the $3500 price range. But these are an 1" smaller in diameter than the EMU rings and do not have the proper HUT mounting surface arrangement.

Here is the ring without anodizing. (Gemini would be light blue and the S-1030 is Class 1 anodizing, which is a mottled light grey with a black release)
View attachment 1796300

A less expensive alternative is ball detents or spring plungers.
As far as material, we have not found a substitute for the Ortho fabric that looks close. Most replica suits just use a Nylon or pack cloth fabric, which we use on our lower grade suit replicas, as Ortho fabric is not being made, unless custom ordered, and if some is available it's $450/yrd.

Yes, it is LMGILL

yes i mean rolling convolute like is employed on the xEMU i was wondering if that was on the newer emu and for tthe emu neck ring i think i have a plan for that and for the pivoted and planar i think i will be doing a planar as it is much simpler

 

[lmgill]

yes i mean rolling convolute like is employed on the xEMU i was wondering if that was on the newer emu and for tthe emu neck ring i think i have a plan for that and for the pivoted and planar i think i will be doing a planar as it is much simpler

theotherthingyouwillneedislooptapetojoinyourtmgtotheoutsideofthehutthisisdifficulttofindbutisvisibleinmanyplacesoryoucouldusevelcrolikethelatersuit

 

[sphericalcow]

Well said.
(atleastforriceman)

 

[riceman]

theotherthingyouwillneedislooptapetojoinyourtmgtotheoutsideofthehutthisisdifficulttofindbutisvisibleinmanyplacesoryoucouldusevelcrolikethelatersuit

i will be using velcro

 

[TazMan2000]

theotherthingyouwillneedislooptapetojoinyourtmgtotheoutsideofthehutthisisdifficulttofindbutisvisibleinmanyplacesoryoucouldusevelcrolikethelatersuit

Fix your spacebar!

TazMan2000

 

[riceman]

So some EMU info
When you say "cage" I'm not sure to what you are referring. There is a shoulder style, developed by Litton for the extended Apollo missions, called a rolling convolute, which was further developed on the Mark II suit. Is this what you are calling a cage?
There were two styles of EMU HUT, one with an articulated bearing at the shoulder (single plane) and another without the articulation, with just a fixed bearing. There is a FRP HUT on Orbital Surplus right now that was made using a real hard upper torso plug.
As far at helmet disconnects with 8 retracting pins.
These are pretty complex, requiring about 35 precisely machined parts in stainless steel and aluminum. The aluminum must be anodized, otherwise the aluminum is to "waxy/ sticky" to make things move smoothly.
In the near future, I will be offering some Gemini / S-1030 beringed helmet disconnects that are nearly identical to the real ones (only missing internal seals) with a16 pin engagement, they will be in the $3500 price range. But these are an 1" smaller in diameter than the EMU rings and do not have the proper HUT mounting surface arrangement.

Here is the ring without anodizing. (Gemini would be light blue and the S-1030 is Class 1 anodizing, which is a mottled light grey with a black release)
View attachment 1796300

A less expensive alternative is ball detents or spring plungers.
As far as material, we have not found a substitute for the Ortho fabric that looks close. Most replica suits just use a Nylon or pack cloth fabric, which we use on our lower grade suit replicas, as Ortho fabric is not being made, unless custom ordered, and if some is available it's $450/yrd.

Yes, it is LMGILL

but does the newer one imploy a rolling convolute