I just can't shut up any longer.
Hey Old Ken... I was someone who PAID for an item back in 2003. I got the same promises and delays ad infinitum and if you want to search my username to see the threads I started, and everyone who jumped in defending the delays and made it seem I was out of line for expecting my items that I had paid for because of "real life", I can tell you until you decide to fork over $800 for something to be told it would be done within a few months, and that turns into 3 years, deployments and other family matters notwithstanding, I think you'd probably feel you had no other course of action either. In fact, the only way I GOT communication was posting public threads here since PMs were rarely returned until I opened my mouth publically.
I finally got my item several months back, and after the wait and some problems with some of the parts, I did get all my stuff, but come on... three years? For someone working out of a state of the art garage studio with all kinds of fancy mold pressurizers etc.?
So from someone who DID pay money, who went through the same runaround and bad communication for too long, whatever the trade deal was between SWP and BD, the bottom line is promises to ship were never kept and it took BD posting here to finally get some attention since he was being ignored or blown off, whatever the case was.
I had a side trade also going another item with SWP and held off the remainder of my trade because I was promised some bases to make up for the delay of my original paid shipment. Well the bases were never shipped and I gave up trying to get any attention and held off sending my final part of the trade specifically BECAUSE I am sorry to say, I did not trust getting the bases if I sent the remaining part of my trade. I have since moved on and found another source for the bases for my studio scale stuff, and SWP has two of the three items I promised from the trade. I figured an effort would be made to show that other stuff promised me would be shipped to make up for the other delays and promises that things would change. I didn't see any so that's the end of it.
I think anyone who has seen Steve's stuff, when there are not problems with parts, is very satisfied with the end result and no one is claiming he is not a very talented artisan, as I have posted endlessly. But it sure sours the joy and appreciation when you feel that you will be gotten to when someone is good and ready, even when you have paid for something, and that is inexcusable, especially where there is NO communication and endless delays.
As I have shared with a few other members here privately and will now share publically, when I had a serious personal crisis in my "real life" in late 2004, I could not just toss aside all the people who were depending on me with deadlines and who were paying me to get work done for them in my business here in L.A., I had to focus hard past what was going on, deliver, and deal with the crisis in my personal time. It was not a light "crisis" either, it was like a nervous breakdown crisis related to my marriage and I won't go into any of the ugly details here. The bottom line is that we all make allowances, as my own employers did, to allow one to get through their crises however WE have to remain professional and see the job through within the time frame we tell people and NOT let people down or justify our behavior when we finally DO deliver and shirk it off with the attitude "well they finally got what they ordered/paid for, why are they complaining?" And we are expected to COMMUNICATE.
It's a shame because all of this probably would never have happened if there had not been an endless cycle of the same pattern repeating itself over and over and over and over again. When someone says they know they have a problem, and promise to change it, but it keeps happening, how many chances do you give until you start to feel your own good nature is being taken advantage of?
I feel bad Steve has to deal with this publically but it's not like it's the first time, hopefully it will help him deal with whatever things he has to in his shop beyond his deals with MR to deal with his private customers who also deserve the same respect with communication and promises kept instead of delays and excuses.
<div class='quotetop'>(oldken @ Sep 5 2006, 12:45 AM) [snapback]1312990[/snapback]</div>
wtf?
ok, sorry for the out for blood comment... but the name of this thread alone, is harsher than anything ive said.
DO NOT TRUST Steve Neisen aka SWPropbuilder.
on the RPF...
just sayin, i think that it will damage his rep, and it coulda been avoided, his name is getting run through the mud, and like i said, its not like he pulled a jeff parks... if he is telling the truth, i PERSONALLY feel that he doesnt diserve this public display.
if hes lying and making excuses thats TOTTALLY DIFFERENT...
im just sayin damn... its a bit harsh, he didnt change his phone/address or Email oir even dissapear off of the RPF, so as long as BD hadnt sent him one thing and was waiting for his half to return, i just feel its a little extreme, i dont know the guy in question, so he may be a real POS, all i can go off is what is laid out, it just seems harsh.
this is why i didnt want to comment in the first place, so again, i apologise for even being part of this thread.
there is obviously a right and wrong side here, and no grey area...
have a good un. B)
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(sarcasm inserted).
