Aliens Pulse Rife Questions

[Robiwon]

Yes, I did paint the GL. As far is paint rubbing off when you rack it, I don't know. You would have to ask the current owner. I sold the gun earlier this year.

I understand what your talking about as far casting parts, but be careful as it come dangerously close to be considered "recasting" which is a no-no on this forum.

 

[DanTheSwine]

Thanks for the advice man, I'll be sure not to cross that line and I think I'll probably work with my dad on machining some metal parts for the barrell, stock etc. In the meantime now I have to sit on my hands for a few days until everything arrives.

 

[DanTheSwine]

Okay it arrived, I am actually impressed by the overall quality. Unlike other airsoft guns I have purchased in the past, t's a very solid and well made build, it actually exceeded my expectations. The pistol grip does seem to move around a little though even though the bolt holding it in place appears to be on rather tight, did you have any issue with that on your one? I'll begin stripping it down in a couple of days and sending parts over to my dad in Wales so he can machine some. There is one thing I think I am going to add to this if I can and that is the magazine release buttons on either side, I'd rather them work in reverse order i.e. being stuck to the gun and then fastening to the magazine bottom.

 

[Sean]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I have a pulse rifle question I would like to ask. doe's anyone know or have heard of a pattern for the Spas cage? unfolded 2D correct holes and such?

 

[gyoung2993]

If anyone can do it or have one , is beyond my knowledge there....interesting question....I have another real spas 12 cage , that hasn't had any modifications to it yet.....not sure how I could get a pattern set made from it , if anyone has ideas...I would be glad to help in some way !!! like Ripley said " ITS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE "......LOL

 

[bigbisont]

Fella "Obiwan Kowalski" did a hand drawing that was damn good.
This is his thread:
http://www.therpf.com/f9/pulse-rifle-2-0-scratch-built-spas-cage-232028/?highlight=scratch+spas+cage

He shot it over to me so I could check it out and provide feedback. I printed it 1:1 scale then did a "rubbing" using a red pencil with the paper over the top of my un-modified SPAS cage. He did a great job. It may be worth touching base with him.

 

[Sean]

Fella "Obiwan Kowalski" did a hand drawing that was damn good.
This is his thread:
http://www.therpf.com/f9/pulse-rifle-2-0-scratch-built-spas-cage-232028/?highlight=scratch+spas+cage

He shot it over to me so I could check it out and provide feedback. I printed it 1:1 scale then did a "rubbing" using a red pencil with the paper over the top of my un-modified SPAS cage. He did a great job. It may be worth touching base with him.

Hey Thank's man.I totally appreciate the heads up. and will soot him a PM.

 

[Canobi]

If anyone can do it or have one , is beyond my knowledge there....interesting question....I have another real spas 12 cage , that hasn't had any modifications to it yet.....not sure how I could get a pattern set made from it , if anyone has ideas...I would be glad to help in some way !!! like Ripley said " ITS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE "......LOL

Making a cage pattern isn't a bad idea actually, and it could be done.

To do it there needs to be lots of pics of the cage from different angles beside a ruler for referance, it can then be modeled in 3D which can be unfolded for printing templates.

2-2.5mm styrene sheet would probably be plenty strong enough to make it from while remaining thin like the original too.

If you can provide the pics, I'll make some enquiries into the 3D moddeling as I happen to know a couple guys I can ask who might help in that area

 

[Sean]

Couldn't you just do a rubbing off of a real one and then scan it and just clean It up .

 

[gyoung2993]

I Have almost all the real parts here is my stash for a 2nd pulse rifle....here are a few pictures of what I have currently
http://www.therpf.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=441447&d=1424484077

 

[gyoung2993]

If it can be 3d printed , then that sounds like a less expensive way to go ,for some people at a cheaper cost I guess ?????

 

[Sean]

I kinda like the styrene idea.

 

[kalkamel]

Maybe the guy who made the video has a template?

 

[Sean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATPl5ybTTLw

Maybe the guy who made the video has a template?

Guy has graciously offered to do a paper rubbing of his real spas cage. not sure of the best technique for this yet. after that we could throw it into a scanner and make a digital copy. and from there i have a friend that could clean it up and make a template out of it.

 

[gyoung2993]

If that will work, but if there is a way to get actual measurements with a caliper, and all dimensions.....would that help someone here...trying to figure out who I can trust to do this with my rare Spas 12 ......I am not a wizard , when it comes to getting precise measurements !!!...If there is someone who is absolutely a long time member and has the techniques and knowledge , to find it useful then I can send it..... I do not want to send this to anyone , afraid it will be taken.....by some regular joe, who claims good intentions...I need someone with reputable background , and then I will send t to have it scanned , etc.

 

[Canobi]

How about finding a local engineering shop near you and see if they will take the measurements?

 

[Canobi]

I kinda like the styrene idea.

I borrowed the concept from pepacura as I reckon it could be transposed for use with styrene. A lot of weapon chassis and parts could be made using pep files without needing the tabs as styrene is easily bonded. It also has the advantage in that any parts that should be curved, or most any other complex 3d shape can be heated with a heat gun or in the oven and made to conform to it's proper shape while its soft without the laborious sanding/filling/sanding/filling (add infinitum) that normally goes with smoothing pepacura parts and glue as normal.

Styrene is also a stable material in that it doesn't shrink/expand when heated up so the dimentuons of the cut parts always remains the same after treatment.

 

[gyoung2993]

How about finding a local engineering shop near you and see if they will take the measurements?

All we have out are farms and cows...and some factories....LOL...I live out in the country...LOL...but I love the peace and quiet...LOL

 

[Canobi]

In that case it's pics with a ruler. Lightwave and many other 3D programs can accurately trace pics and having a ruler allows to make them to scale.

 

[Sean]

If we can get a near perfect paper stencil that can be printed to size. and given out freely. then why do we need all the micro measuring?