1/72 Black Pearl kit from Zvezda

division 6

Listed on the Zvezda site with pix of the model.
Doesn't appear to be out yet at least not on the 4 sites I looked at.

The Russian version of the page has the instructions on it.

JPolacchi

Think they'll make The Dutchman too?

division 6

Probably not.

CaptainDave1701

I think I would look into this too. When the pirate movies came out this was released. It is the same scale I believe. I could be wrong though.

John's Hobbies : 85-0386 REVELL CARIBBEAN PIRATE SHIP 1/72ND [85-0386] - $12.99

division 6

That is actually the Chicken of the Sea / Capt Hook Ship that used to be at Disneyland but the fan tail art has a skull like the one at Disney France.

I plan to convert the model to the LA version with the mermaid fore and aft.

Revell of Germany has the same kit at twice the price.
I bought it thinking it was the variant of the Golden Hind, once I got it I realized I could have picked up the same model at Michaels for $12.
i did pick up a few ow the cheaper ones for $4 each from one of Squadrons sales.

JMChladek

Zvezda is doing a Dutchman, but I am not sure what the origin of the molds is. I believe they are going to do it in glow in the dark plastic as the box art shows it glowing with ripped up sails. It doesn't exactly look like the one from the film.

division 6

There are a couple Flying Dutchman models out there.
Lindberg puts one out and I've seen the one you are referring to.
It's probably an older model or molds from another company since it says newly tooled sails.
It also comes with glow in the dark paint like the RoG pirate ghost ship (over priced version of the Caribbean pirate ship in my earlier post), the Lindberg model is made from glow in the dark plastic.

PHArchivist

Would love to see a kit of the Queen Anne's Revenge from P4 - best part of the movie...

PHArchivist

Under their distributors tab, the site below is listed for the U.S.

http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodmidh.asp?tlcode=ZVE

But the model is not showing yet.

By the way how large would the Pearl be in 1:72?

EDIT: A 1:75 scale kit of the HMS Surprise (from Master & Commander) is ablout 33" long, and it appears that a 1:72 scale HMS Victory is about 54" long. Do you suppose this kit is really three feet long or so?

DrMcoy

EXCELLENT!! Once someone finds out how to buy these, PLEASE POST!!! Been wanting these for a long time. Bought some existing pirate ships in hopes of modifying them for Pearl and Dutchman, but would just as soon buy these!

Thanks for posting!!!!

Nwerke

Also seriously interested in the scale question. This isn't going to be another dodgy scale slapped onto a quite small model, a la Fine Molds, is it? Fingers crossed...

Zombie_61

The Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki site (take it for what it's worth) states the Black Pearl is 165' 2" in length. If that's correct, the kit should be just under 28" long.

tgreco

according to the pirates.wiki the Black Pearl is 165 feet 2in
so a 1/72 scale ship should be 27.52 inches

oops... apparently zombie posted while I was doing me some figurin'

Zombie_61

Must be an echo in here...

PHArchivist

28" is in line with what you'd expect from the better wooden ship model manufacturers.

But (reflecting Nwerke's comment), there is a Revell "Caribbean Pirate Ship" model kit, listed at 1:72, and the box says its 8 1/2 inches long!

http://www.revell.com/model-kits/ships/85-0386.html

8.5 x 72 = 612 inches, or 51 feet.

28 x 72 = 2,016 inches, or 168 feet

Nwerke

I just took a look at the kit parts breakdown - the lower hull/side hull split is pretty low; if the kit was small they could have molded right up to the sterncastle in one piece.

This is promising, it shouts 'great big bits of plastic', to me!

Or maybe 'more than one kit'. Or both?

PHArchivist

We just gotta find out how to buy it! Or who from...

Two kits - convert one into the Queen Anne's Revenge!

Nwerke

No no...I'm saying 'common hull'. What's the scope of Zvezda's licence?

division 6

PHArchivist, the model you linked to is the same one I linked to earlier in the thread, it's the Disneyland ship that was removed in the early 80's.

Here are some pix of the Pearl at Nuremberg Toy Show taken back in Feb.

PHArchivist

Cool - and BIG!

Capt.K'lon

The kit looks AMAZING!!!!!
Im definatly gonna get one as soon as it goes on sale!!!

Zombie_61

Yes, but as division 6 stated above, that kit is based on the Chicken of the Sea/Captain Hook ship that was formerly a part of Disneyland in Anaheim, California. Being Disney, the ship was a somewhat "caricatured" version of a sailing vessel and not particularly accurate with regards to the dimensions of historical real-world ships; it wouldn't surprise me to find out that it, like many Disneyland attractions, was scaled down. The 1/72 scale is probably based on that Disneyland ship which, I can say having seen it, was relatively small.

The Black Pearl, on the other hand, was "Magnificent, and fierce, and huge-ish," so the discrepancy in size, despite the estimated scales, doesn't surprise me.

DrMcoy

The Zvezda DUTCHMAN appears to NOT be anything close to one in PIRATES movies...it is a glow in the dark ship of more generic "Flying Dutchman" design.

I still have another model pirate ship that I can convert...saw someone else convert the kit and it looked pretty good...but it looks like a lot of work. I can't find link, but do have pics somewhere...I'll post when I find them.

t

PHArchivist

Totally agree. Probably would have suited me well to take a closer look at Div 6 posts!

Looking at one of his links, there are tons of images olf the old Disney ship/eatery, and yeah - it was pretty small.

I barely remember the Disney ship. You've got a couple years on me, and may have clearer memories. I'm 43, so was still pretty young when it went away. I do remember the Fantasyland make-over in the early 80's, but again, barely remember the ship.

PHArchivist

I'm sure you know the POTC Dutchman was based on the Vasa. Are there kits of Vasa out there?