I'm thinking about taking Johnson's advice to just wait for the movie to come out and skip the new trailer. You know the old saying, abstinence makes the heart grow fonder. Or is that absinthe?
I wish I had done that. I told myself I would, when Mark and Rian made the request. But I received a bunch of texts and emails overnight from friends asking,
"Whoa?! Did you see Chewie in the new trailer?!?! He looks like crap!!!!". So, I watched it. And I'm sorry I did. I hate spoilers, and I hate false-spoilers (what you folks are calling misdirection).
Did I like the trailer? Meh, it was okay, and there was some really cool stuff in there. But I don't trust trailers, because there are so many horrible movies that had great trailers.
Game? Is there a big football game on?
No, it was a Sportball game.
When Luke says he's seen this power before, he means Vader right? Or is Kylo more powerful than we know.
He means Kylo. Luke says,
"I've only seen this much raw power once before". He's qualifying the power as
"raw". Vader's power was not raw, it was refined. (Certainly by the time Luke met him.) No, Luke is clearly lamenting that he failed in training Kylo by not fearing how much raw power the kid had, and the kid spun out control, out of Luke's influence.
Man, I hope you're right! I'm tempted to say I have a good feeling about this, but I can't, because I've been burned so many times before.
You bet, but I think it's a misdirection.
I fracking hate misdirections in trailers. Anticipating something to happen in a movie that doesn't, sucks.
Are they implying Kylo goes full on matricidal now too?
Seeing Carrie was hands-down my favorite part of the trailer. I know she was old, and had lots of work done on her face...but those eyes...those soulful brown eyes of hers, are the same as they've always been. I'm so thankful we get to see her one more time.
Ok guys can someone quote my post and reply so I don’t watch get spoiled.
Should I watch this or does it reveal too much of the story?
I watched it, halliwax, against my better judgement, and regret it.
If you haven't succumbed to the temptation yet, don't. Keep your resolve, and wait for the picture, like Mark and Rian requested.
I think that's a bit ridiculous to think that the Chewie roar is CG? I'd imagine that it's practical just like the suit.
They've given away SOOOO MUCH PLOT: The Porgs definitely become a factor. The Porg becomes the new captain of the millennium falcon!!!
Hey @crabra commander ! I think "ridiculous" might be a bit strong a word there buddy. Slow that video down and frame by frame it my friend (starts at 1:31) and then compare it to known practical makeups.
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See the difference? I think it's just Lucasfilm trying to show off how good they are at CGI-ing characters. They're getting cocky because of what they were able to achieve in Rogue One (and even there we recognized the work as CGI, though we let it slide for the movie's sake). But just like the added Jabba's Palace Scenes with the CGI singers in ROTJ, I think they're showing they're not quite as good as they think they are. If I'm proven wrong thinking this is CGI and it's a practical makeup... it's the most CGI looking makeup I've ever seen. Maybe we'll find out once the Blu-Ray is released with "The Making Of" scenes in it? Until then, and even after then, it doesn't look real to me.
Looks totally CG. It's an abomination.
Chewie's eyes is what kills it. Look at all the pics, you can barely see them. From the trailer, the whites just POP right out at you! Terrible CGI....
The eyes look CG, as well.
He's my favorite character, and he looks like crap. Not a happy camper, here, folks.
While possibly true, it doesn't or shouldn't negate the possibility that she turns short term and Luke or Luke and Kylo have to bring her back in order to defeat snoke. She can still come out the hero in the end. Or, you could have the possibility that Luke or the resistance figures out that Snoke is using Kylo to get to Rey and they set up an elaborate scheme where she seemingly goes dark side only - and we are led to believe that at the end of 8 only for the truth to come out in 9.
None of that is necessarily what happens, but they should all be possible.
How exactly was Luke a role model for kids if you just look at ESB? He complained, quit his training, then got his butt kicked, and lost his hand and his best friend got frozen. What matters is where they end up at the end of 9, not 8.
I agree with you, cboath, but as long as KK is making these movies, Rey will always be virtuous.
And when Luke is talking about "raw power" he's talking about the duel with the Emperor, who pretty much was on his way to completely barbecueing him with sheet lightning in ROTJ. If good old dad hadn't finally stepped in, Luke was a goner!!! And he knew it.
CT, I can see why you might think that, but no, stay in present. Luke is talking about his failure to recognize and properly harness Kylo's power. THAT is the guilt he bears. He failed his nephew. He failed his sister. And he failed his best friend--mortally.
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