Right, but as I said, if you take just ESB - the whole thing is his low point. The point was that in and of itself, you can make it appear Rey goes dark in the middle (or does go) and then return in a part 3. It doesn't take from the 'hero's journey' he was talking about. As I said, it matters where you are at the end of 9, not the end of 8.
That's where you're not getting it, or the story, or the entire theme of Star Wars in general. She is the new Luke, period.
The female character lead in Star Wars seems to be a hard pill for a lot of fanboys to swallow. Boo. Hoo.
Lead female roles, like Rey, are a welcome breath of fresh air. The time for all-male leads is done. It's DONE. So, it only makes sense that if you have a character like Rey, that she is not going down a path where she will not be an inspiring character for young women. How is that so hard to comprehend? And if you don't want or welcome this....maybe new Star Wars (or sci-fi movies anywhere) are not for you.
I for one am tired of reading post after post about women in lead roles that are slammed to death, picked apart, nitpicked from every angle... that just screams misogynist rhetoric.
Rey is bad ass, she is here to stay (thank f-ing god) so some of you will need to deal with it.
Sounds an awful lot like the people who got butt-mad about criticisms against the Ghostbusters reboot. Rather than listening to the real issues, they blamed sexim, misogyny...then the film tanked and is in the 99 cent bin at gas stations never to be remembered again because they're ignorance of reality overtook their feeble minds, creating a turd of a film.
Frankly, the issue of her being female isn't even the issue here, but since you're so intent on trying to establish a false gender-war for the sake of calling folks critiquing the films as "misogynist," you're not far off from establishing yourself as such since your post itself completely ignores ALL the previous films with strong female leads. What ever happened to all those who came before? They're now irrelevant because it's now 2017 and everything before yesterday is old? Hell, I'll just link it rather than trying to spout off a list. Google is a fascinating tool
http://www.amc.com/movie-guide/50-greatest-female-movie-characters
Honestly, the first movie that comes to mind is ALIEN, which has who? Ripley. Man, oh man, if you've been on the RPF longer than an hour, you'd know the ALIEN franchise has a HUGE influence on this community. I haven't seen the likes of anti-women hate directed towards that film before, not ever here on this board at least. Why was it so influential to our culture and this site? Maybe because it was a bad-ass movie that had a good story. That's the bottom line.
So please leave this kind of dribble on facebook, where it belongs. This is a discussion about plot points and character developments in the new star wars. This is not the place to make attempts to silence critiques by using sexism as a tool of censorship.
I honestly don't think they should make Luke turn to the dark side. Not only would it undermine his entire character but if he did, why wouldn't he have just joined Snoke and The First Order? Why disappear from the conflict? I'm so excited to see what they have in store for him and Rey.
I really need to reiterate this, there is far too much capital spent on building Rey as the hero and Kylo as the villain to alter course now. From licensing to merchandising, Rey is the light and Kylo is the dark. Just as clear as the OT where Luke was the last guy and Vader the dark. Classic. Easily understood by both young and old. And fun fairy tale storytelling.
Did someone say "Diatribe"?
I think your signature speaks volumes as to why you react in such a way to everyone who disagrees with you
The fact that you can't make an actual rebuttal to my argument but would rather defer to my signature block as your source of information to draw out some kind of "ah ha!" comment tells me that you simply can't make one at all due to your own **** poor logic.
The villain in AOTC was lense flare?
"Why are you here?"
https://makingstarwars.net/2017/10/new-dialogue-star-wars-last-jedi-tv-spot/
I don't think Luke would turn dark but I do think his agenda and that of Rey and the Resistance are at odds with each other. So in that respect he could be an antagonistic presence at least in this film.
Says the guy who failed to counter my argument to begin with after calling out your own logical fallacies, and still fails miserably to do so. Or should I expect another "rebuttal" from you only after someone else with stronger faculties challenges me again?Case. In. Point.
So Rey being there is no coincidence and her being left with Unkar Plut speaks volumes to the quality and character of whomever left her there.
I think we have long since needed a character to explore what's in between the extreme absolutes of Sith and Jedi.
I have always thought Luke was the greatest because he was the one who realized that true strength exists as a mix of both.
Looking very much forward to seeing his character's development.