Yee's Ultimate Spider-Man and TASM2 Latex Project

Yeebeme

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A while back I got my Orhadar comic style Spider-Man suit, printed by a friend and sewn by Trophywife with TJack lenses. Wore it to London Film and Comic Con and it was great. But after I looked at pictures taken from the con I thought “hmm…you really can’t see the webbing that well, I need to do something to highlight them”. Eventually I decided on latex webbing and here’s my thread on my attempts at it through the power of trial and error :)

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So as you can see from some LFCC pictures you really can’t see the webbing on my suit especially in the picture with the other two Spider-Men

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At first I tried darkening them with pigma micron pens and honestly it does look really good, but I still felt it wasn’t enough for me. I thought “puff paint? Maybe. Latex? Maybe.” I liked the idea of latex so I gathered some materials to test it out on some fabric.

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Some liquid latex, some latex thickener, an old puff paint bottle to apply it, acrylic paint to colour it, a drizzler to get it into the puff paint bottle, a wee measuring glass thingy and a coffee stirring stick thingy.

So I got to work, just randomly mixing liquid latex, thickener and paint and testing on fabric which I unfortunately don’t have pictures of. Eventually I found a mix I was happy with, it was thick enough that it wouldn’t soak right through the fabric but thin enough that it could get through the bottle in a smooth efficient manner. About a drop of thickener per millilitre of latex.

In the first two pictures of the below pictures, that is what the latex looked like upon initial application. As you can see, it’s very very light in colour but darkens quite a lot as it dries, you can see it darkening in the third picture.

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Here it is pretty when it’s touch dry. It’s still pretty shiny but will turn matte as time goes by

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Switched to a bigger puff paint bottle to save me from constantly running out so quickly

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Here’s the front spider on initial application

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After a few hours of sleep

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And after I got home from work

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As Collectormania was looming I rushed the rest of the suit and finished it the night before the event. Here are some pictures from the con :D

With Venom

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Upside down

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In the car (complete with lens falling off :D)

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And some at MCM where I had to reapply all of the latex on the head at 2am the night before after I accidentally messed some of it up.
On a chair

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Blue Steel

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Of course because of how messy it was applied for MCM I had to redo it all. Luckily latex peels off fairly nicely even though it sticks on really really strongly onto the suit. Wanted to get a shinier mix so I trialed and errored (not a phrase) a new mix that remains fairly shiny even when completely dry. Here’s some comparison pics:

Head

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Upper Chest

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Lower Chest

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Close up

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And that’s all so far. I’m still in the process of redoing it all so I’ll post updates as I go on and then hopefully the suit will look good with the new mix. Who knows? I may very well redo all of it again. I know some of you may or may not like the look of it. But I do which is the important thing for me but hopefully some of you will have had a good read. Thanks for looking :D
 
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Re: Yee's Spider-Man Latex Webbing Project (Pic Heavy)

That came out really cool!
May I ask why didn't you apply the webs on the seam lines of the mask and shoulders?
 
Re: Yee's Spider-Man Latex Webbing Project (Pic Heavy)

That came out really cool!
May I ask why didn't you apply the webs on the seam lines of the mask and shoulders?

Thanks man! I meant to mention it in the first post but totally forgot to add it. Well, quite frankly I didn't do the seam lines because I had a brain fart while applying them...twice...and I just forgot to do them. I have however gone over the seam lines this time and they should be hidden from the public view this time round :lol
 
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So while I was doing the webbing I was wondering what it would look like if I went over the blue parts. I haven't seen an attempt to go over just the blue on a comic style suit before so I was very curious.

Did some latex tests, but ended up deciding to try slick paint

Latex test 1

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Latex test 2

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Slick paint

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Honestly, I may very well regret this decision in the future and I may absolutely hate it although I won't know for certain until it's all done but I'm gonna finish it for the sake of experimentation and at the very least it'll certainly have an interesting look.
 
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Honestly, on an ASM2 suit, latex would look better on the brick/hexagon portion. But, on a comic style suit, I like the look of the slick paint. It gives it almost an organic look.
 
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Wow! I want ... No... I NEED! This was a fantastic idea! I really am impressed of how authentic it makes the rest of the costume stand out. Great work :)
 
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So while I was doing the webbing I was wondering what it would look like if I went over the blue parts. I haven't seen an attempt to go over just the blue on a comic style suit before so I was very curious.

Did some latex tests, but ended up deciding to try slick paint

Latex test 1

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Latex test 2

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Slick paint

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Honestly, I may very well regret this decision in the future and I may absolutely hate it although I won't know for certain until it's all done but I'm gonna finish it for the sake of experimentation and at the very least it'll certainly have an interesting look.

The honeycomb looks fantastic on that suit. I was honestly thinking about doing it on mine and this gives me a good idea what it will look like. Keep up the great work
 
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Looks great! Is the latex webbing durable?
 
Re: Yee's Ultimate Spider-Man and TASM2 Latex Project WIP (Pic Heavy)

So here's a sort of update I guess, I ended up not going over the entire suit again with new latex, finished the honeycomb, looks pretty damn cool. Unfortunately haven't had the time to get back into the suit to take new pictures though. I swear the most time consuming part of getting into it for me is just getting the shoes on, I might just put ankle zippers on the suit to make it easier but ain't got time to do that either bleh.

Well, I also started a TASM2 build for the Reel Icons section of the UK Garrison. The suit is being sewn up right now so I've been doing a few tests on a test suit. I made an album of some latex and paint tests but it's boring so I'll share some of the highlights. It'll all be applied a lot more cleanly on my actual suit.

Here's latex test 1:

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Latex test 2:

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And my favourite, latex test 3 (kind of applied messily in this picture :lol) under natural light:

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Latex test 3 under another light:

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And another:

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Latex test 3 is black when looking at it in real life but it's pretty reflective so it gives off a shine, it's not too shiny though which I like.

I'll also be using that mix for the bricks, here's a test:

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Definitely need to get more daylight shots of the bricks as well as the webs. Also need to get some pictures of the finished comic style honeycomb :)
 
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the brick pattern looks amazing! I really liked the idea of latex webbing. :)
 
Did 2 more test mixes. I swear I'm half man half latex at this point :lol It's also annoying taking pictures because the colour looks rather different in real life.

Test mix 1

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Test mix 2 on the left half of image, test mix 1 on right half

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Slightly further away shot, same mixes

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Brick tests. Mix 1 on left, mix 2 on right

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Same, but different angle and light

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Mix 1 is a lot more black to the eye while mix 2 is more a dark grey. Mix 2 appears to be more reflective than mix 1. Oh how I wish I could just see the actual movie suit in person with my own eyes, then I'd be a lot happier :lol
 
Mix 1 is a lot more black to the eye while mix 2 is more a dark grey. Mix 2 appears to be more reflective than mix 1. Oh how I wish I could just see the actual movie suit in person with my own eyes, then I'd be a lot happier :lol
You're doing great! I HAVE seen the actual movie suit in person with my own eyes, and your results are nice. Mix 1 is closer to the movie suit---it is black, not grey or silver or anything like that. The webs on the film suit are black, with a satin (not reflective) finish.
 
Wow that looks amazing. I was considering puffy paints but that looks 10 times better! how did you get a smooth surface on the spider using a puffy paint bottle?
 
You're doing great! I HAVE seen the actual movie suit in person with my own eyes, and your results are nice. Mix 1 is closer to the movie suit---it is black, not grey or silver or anything like that. The webs on the film suit are black, with a satin (not reflective) finish.

Cheers man! It's always better to see the actual thing in person as a reference but at least I can always study pictures that other people have taken of the movie suit :lol

Based on the pictures it looks semi-gloss or satin to my eyes but the way it seems to be reflecting the light it almost feels like it should be glossier but I know it shouldn't, but maybe I just can't recreate the lighting where the pictures are taken.

In my mix 1 I'm going for a kind of semi-gloss sheen, it's reflective but not a lot. I think it reflects light the most and looks sort of silver/greyish (but only in pictures, still just black to the eye) when there's a source pointed directly at it but it's just black when you try to cover the light source. Still unsure whether to tone down the gloss or not.

Pictures of mix 1 in daylight (one picture looks more reflective than the other even though it's the same mix, not sure why, light does what light wants to do I guess)

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One with only my monitor as light source

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Man I just wish I could use the screen printing process to do it instead but it's so expensive :lol

Wow that looks amazing. I was considering puffy paints but that looks 10 times better! how did you get a smooth surface on the spider using a puffy paint bottle?

Thanks! Honestly puff paints are actually pretty good, it's definitely the most cost effective option in my opinion (although I guess this kind of depends how easy it is for you to get puff paints in your country) and it's perfect for people looking to get into raised webbing or detailing work. It really depends on the kind of finish you want on the detailing, latex will give you a different finish than puff paints but it's just a wee bit more work finding the right colour and it's a wee bit more hassle applying it but if you mess up latex it all kind of peels off a lot more cleanly than puff paints.

For the smooth surface I use a strange technique where I first outline the spider, then I divide it all into very little subsections and then in each subsection while squeezing it slowly out of the bottle I kind of do this thing where I bounce between the walls of the subsection and that'll generally make it fairly smooth. The same concept applies to puff paint but it's trickier because of its thickness. If you look closely it's not totally smooth normally but when worn the uneven bits kind of even out. As you can see my skills in describing stuff are second to none :lol

Here's a test I did of the same concept but using puff paint.

In the first picture you can see an overall outline then I arbitrarily picked a place to divide it where the horizontal line is then I decided to divide that section into two different subsections where that vertical line is

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Next you see I filled in one of the subsections using the wall bouncing technique

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Keep dividing and repeating until the whole thing is filled in and when it's dry it should be somewhat smooth

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In my opinion a good way to get a smooth spider would be to use a template and cast your own spiders with latex or other material. For my TASM2 I'm just going to go the ghetto way and make a template out of foam and just apply latex to the template then glue down the latex spider onto the chest.

Also you will generally get more even and thinner lines with a metal applicator tip (like the one in glue bottles) but I prefer using those only for the bricks. But it still depends on preference :)
 
Thanks for replying and for the demo! I'll certainly give that technique a go with my puff paint! I bought some to trial out on my old costume before I bought a new one! The problem was the puff paint doesnt stick to the webbing thats already on! (The flat stuff) so now I am looking for a costume that's got all print instead. I'm really liking the idea of Latex though, i can imagine it's stronger and to me looks a lot more genuine than paint. One more annoying question for you; can you recommend where to get a suit like yours? Doesn't have to be exactly that one, but I like the muscle shade detail and the honey combe effect. Price isn't really too much of an issue to me however I just want something "decent" that I can work on to add my own touch. I'm not going to full movie replication!
 
Thanks for replying and for the demo! I'll certainly give that technique a go with my puff paint! I bought some to trial out on my old costume before I bought a new one! The problem was the puff paint doesnt stick to the webbing thats already on! (The flat stuff) so now I am looking for a costume that's got all print instead. I'm really liking the idea of Latex though, i can imagine it's stronger and to me looks a lot more genuine than paint. One more annoying question for you; can you recommend where to get a suit like yours? Doesn't have to be exactly that one, but I like the muscle shade detail and the honey combe effect. Price isn't really too much of an issue to me however I just want something "decent" that I can work on to add my own touch. I'm not going to full movie replication!

Yeah depending on the type of fabric it might be a bit trickier, if it's already got webbing on it (like the plastic-y kind not sure how to describe it) then I don't think it'll stick well, not even sure latex will stick to it. Latex is definitely a lot stronger than paint, it'll take quite a bit of stretching before any of it sort of snaps and it won't crack. I'd say just find some lycra fabric somewhere and test your puff paint or latex skills on that, the main skill is just getting the lines to come out evenly anyway and making sure the fabric doesn't soak it all up.

My suit was assembled the same way a lot of people's were, the pattern I bought from gunhead design (Orhadar on therpf), printed by a printing company in the UK (fabricondemand
is pretty popular in the US), sewn by Trophywife from these forums.

One of the most popular guides out there for assembling a Spidey costume is Lunaman 's guide, not all steps may apply to you but it's a good read anyway http://www.therpf.com/f78/lunas-ultimate-spider-man-build-orhadar-print-pic-heavy-185367/

Another guide which was recently made by cardboarddude is very detailed and it'll help a lot and it draws information for a lot of threads on here to save you some searching, another very good read
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2jtiCxguwjnQlR5T1VFM1dna0E/view

If you're looking for pre-assembled suits then you can go to sites like the rpc studio who do all the printing and sewing for you, haven't used them myself but have heard good things about them. I think zentaizone recently have been doing printing and sewing services if you give them a pattern but I'm not entirely sure. Haven't really seen many people use that service though, most people just get the suits they already have on the site.

Having said all that you may already know all of this and I'm just rambling, but doesn't hurt to say it all anyway just in case :)
 
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Yeah it has that plasticy stuff and the puffy paint just peels away. I'll be using this suit for practice for sure. Thanks so much for the guide! There seems to be a lot more to this than I first thought! when I went onto Zentai Zone I assumed they sold the suits as they display them, but apparently I need a print file? But they seem to do it much cheaper? I've seen a nice file from gunhead designs for only 35$ and a printing / Sewing service from ZentaiZone and zentaizentai for 65$ with a few mods. Thats like 100$ which seems really cheap. As this guide and others I've read are talking about between 1000$ and $4000? I'm assuming the main difference is quality of materials perhaps?

Sorry for all the questions! but thanks again :3

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Thank you for this thread! This is actually helping me get a game plan for a Raimi symbiote suit coming up very soon. I was wondering (as I can't tell in the photo and in case I missed it) what brand of latex paint are you using?
 
Mix 1 looks pretty spot on to me! What's it made up of? I thought about using puffy paint but this looks like a way better option if it can be replicated :)
 
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