What's your most ANNOYING film/tv anachronisms/hist. inaccuracy? My vote-The Artist

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Yeah, true. Although, I will say that there's something to be said for things which are so ridiculous as to jolt you out of just enjoying the ride. For me, it's usually something like BLATANTLY breaking the laws of physics. Live Free or Die Hard was particularly bad about this (where people leap out of helicopters from 30 feet off the ground, or get hit by SUVs and still engage in a kung fu battle afterward).
 
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(where people leap out of helicopters from 30 feet off the ground, or get hit by SUVs and still engage in a kung fu battle afterward).

yeha that is a bit ridiculous. especially for something supposed to be set in the "real world"
 
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Yeah, true. Although, I will say that there's something to be said for things which are so ridiculous as to jolt you out of just enjoying the ride. For me, it's usually something like BLATANTLY breaking the laws of physics. Live Free or Die Hard was particularly bad about this (where people leap out of helicopters from 30 feet off the ground, or get hit by SUVs and still engage in a kung fu battle afterward).

Yup, this is one of the reasons The Hobbit sucked.

The Wook
 
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The love story in Titanic when it's been done to death. They could have done something to make the movie story driven without all that stuff.
 
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...i always find it odd when people can suspend their disbelief for things like that, but not for little details like convinient plot twists or inaccuracies...
Everyone has their limits. I love movies of all types, and I'm still amazed sometimes at where my brain draws the line.

Example: Peter Jackson's King Kong. 25-foot-tall gorilla? No problem. Dinosaurs living on an uncharted island? No problem. Jack Driscoll (Adrien Brody) uses a Thompson submachine gun to save one of his shipmates from a giant prehistoric insect, firing from several feet away, but doesn't hit the guy once??? Gimme a break! :lol

The love story in Titanic when it's been done to death. They could have done something to make the movie story driven without all that stuff.
I've wondered about this as well; the story of Titanic's sinking isn't compelling enough? My guess is Cameron wanted his movie to be different enough from previous versions so as not to draw obvious comparisons, and probably thought a love story (even a fictional one) would draw more female audience members.
 
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Not an anachronism, but I just started watching the new BSG series and i can't get over how they seem to be in the future, but use modern day technology.
 
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Almost every Adam Sandler movie starts in the late 70's early 80's and they NEVER get things right. I guess it's not priority to them but it bugs the crap out of me. How hard is it to go back and watch movies like Valley Girl, Beverly Hills Cop, Better off Dead, Joysticks or the countless other 80's films out there to see what people were wearing and how they spoke. I never liked the movie Dazed and Confused but they did come pretty close to getting a certain look of the 70's. Only the main kid bugged me - he looked too 90's and couldn't act for ****.
 
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Not an anachronism, but I just started watching the new BSG series and i can't get over how they seem to be in the future, but use modern day technology.
I could explain this, but I don't want to ruin anything for you. Finish watching all four seasons and you'll probably know what I'm talking about.
 
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As I was rewatching Rome the other day, I noticed they mentioned losing some a certain number of "maniples" (literally, handfull) after a battle. A maniple consisted of about 120 men.

At that point in the Late Republic/Early Empire, the maniples had been phased out in favor of the Marian Legions. This occured about 50 years or so before the events portrayed in Rome. The main subunit of the Legion was a Cohort composed of about 6 Centuries, making 480 heavy infantry in all.
 
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(look, you guys have your historical facts, I have my volts and amps)
I got one for you, then.. came across this one today when I was watching Bones. Not an anachronism, just an inaccuracy.

They found a body that had been electrocuted, apparently as a method of torture. One of the scientists figures out it would need roughly 480 volts at 350 Amps to create the kind of muscle/bone damage seen on the body. That's not a typo.. three hundred and fifty amperes.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that amount of current pretty much vaporize a body? Much less kill them.. in electrical safety classes, they're always going on about how it starts getting fatal as you approach one amp of current.

Going back to the OP, I don't mind English dialog as long as the style of language is more or less "apt" for the time period in terms of audience perception. This generally just means that the characters speak very eloquently. I do have a problem when modern slang and such makes it into the dialog.

I have seen Lincoln, and I have heard some criticisms from historians about certain elements of historical inaccuracy (although the film as a whole seems to be more or less correct). But they haven't said specifically what was wrong with it. I'm interested in history enough to want to know, and the time period was recent enough that we have pretty damn good records of what was happening in Congress and the White House at the time.

I did think it was a damn fine film, though, I highly recommend it.
 
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It's always bothered me when a movie set in WWII has Germans speaking with a British accent. Is it too much to hire actors who can speak with a German accent? It really takes me out of the story.
 
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I'd like to add Lincoln to the list - so many inaccuracies - actually too many to list. It's like they took Lincoln's greatest hits and shoved them all together and created a few things along the way.
 
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It's always bothered me when a movie set in WWII has Germans speaking with a British accent. Is it too much to hire actors who can speak with a German accent? It really takes me out of the story.

How about speaking German and judt using English subtitles?

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I can think of a few anachronisms but I don't really find them all that annoying.

Austin Powers (and Dr. Evil) makes references to things he wouldn't know about because they occurred while he was frozen...or, even if he'd learned about them since, they wouldn't come so readily to mind like things he actually lived through. Thus "Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day" doesn't really work. But it's a goofy comedy and it's funny, so, again, not terribly annoying.

A character in 8mm refers to a Rubik's Cube, but the movie is set a couple of years before it came to the US. It was in Europe at the time, but by the name Magic Cube.

Non-vintage SW action figures in That 70s Show... (I think someone mentioned already)...

As for The Artist, I don't think trailer music counts. The music is non-diagetic--one could conceivably use Guns N Roses for a trailer set in the 20s...or even in the movie itself....as long as the characters don't "hear" it. It would be a dubious artistic choice, but not anachronistic.
 
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I LOVE Albert Brooks - every movie he's ever done (that he's directed) including the movie Mother but there's a scene in there where he decides to move back home and he's unpacking all of his old toys and there's a box filled with action figures - out of the box he pulls free an Ultraman figure but the figure is of Ultraman Powered - a version of Ultraman that wasn't around until the 90's (made here in the USA) - he wouldn't have had that when the room was his in the 70's - it would have been regular Ultraman or Ultra 7 (which only showed in Hawaii but I would have allowed it). None of the other Ultramen made it over here in show or toy form.
 
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I LOVE Albert Brooks - every movie he's ever done (that he's directed) including the movie Mother but there's a scene in there where he decides to move back home and he's unpacking all of his old toys and there's a box filled with action figures - out of the box he pulls free an Ultraman figure but the figure is of Ultraman Powered - a version of Ultraman that wasn't around until the 90's (made here in the USA) - he wouldn't have had that when the room was his in the 70's - it would have been regular Ultraman or Ultra 7 (which only showed in Hawaii but I would have allowed it). None of the other Ultramen made it over here in show or toy form.



not sure if you know or not.....some of the original cast members of ultraman will be at monsterpalooza event this weekend
 
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not sure if you know or not.....some of the original cast members of ultraman will be at monsterpalooza event this weekend

Wait -- WHAT? Holy crap - Kerobe himself is going to be there - and now so am i!!!!
 
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what's the biggest, most egregious movie/tv show anachronism or historical inaccuracy, that you don't give a hoot about, and love the film or show regardless?

Gladiator is a good example, works for me too. The fact that the historical side of it is a nonsense doesn't bother me a jot; it does a good job of conveying some (impressionistic) idea of the grandeur of Rome at its height and that's enough for me.

But it is astonishingly riddled with visual flubs, some of which *do* take me out of the film. The tractor tracks in the crops, the obvious modernity of the ruts in the road on Maximus's farm, the contrails...there are just dozens and dozens and dozens. By contrast, Fellowship of the Ring's car in the background was nothing. :lol

"We´re making a movie, not a documentary!" I´ve heard that one quite often from a director ...

Lazy. For a big production it isn't that much harder to get it right. Hire a couple of production assistants with appropriate quals and give them the job of policing accuracy. LOTR had an Elven languages consultant...

If an element fits the overall art work, then why not use it. I´ve made my peace with movies like League of extraordinary gentlemen and Around the world in 80 days when it comes to e.g. inaccurately chosen vehicles.

Sure, if it's near enough, okay. But LoEG didn't get that right either; they went for an Art Nouveau take on 1930s vehicles. If they had nouveau-ised some Victorian stuff, I'd have probably disliked the film less.

In general, I tolerate modern language and, in SOME cases, modern concepts popping out of historical figures' mouths. It depends on the specifics, though.

As you say, if it is done on purpose, no problem. If it is by accident or ignorance, not so much. Honorifics are a big problem area; people don't address the Queen as "Queen" or "Your Highness", it would be a major embarrassment. Seeing it happen in a film immediately tells me that the filmmaker is either lazy or ignorant or both, so why should I care about the rest of what he's serving up? If your film has pretensions to gravitas and you're featuring titled characters, then getting their sodding titles correct isn't a lot to ask.

Robin Hood and the "LSK" - Landing Ship Knight ... (sigh)

:lol :thumbsup

My guess is Cameron wanted his movie to be different enough from previous versions so as not to draw obvious comparisons, and probably thought a love story (even a fictional one) would draw more female audience members.

The man knows his marketing.

Not an anachronism, but I just started watching the new BSG series and i can't get over how they seem to be in the future, but use modern day technology.

Not just modern, there's WWII stuff in there too. I know there's an in-story explanation that kinda, sorta can be bent and twisted to apply to the visuals themselves but really, actual Jeeps and 1940s Dodge weapons carriers? It bugged me.

I got one for you, then.. came across this one today when I was watching Bones. Not an anachronism, just an inaccuracy.

Bones - do they still have that giant holographic display tank imported from the future? :lol
 
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