Replicator1701
Well-Known Member
I'm guessing around 4 1/2 X 3 X 2,
Is that even close?
Is that even close?
VADER BELT BOXES
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Replicator1701
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I'm collecting for a ROTJ custume. I figure that they are made from project boxes for electronics. I've seen both aluminum and plastic at my local electronics store. I was just hoping someone would be nice enough to share the size info.
darth_manu
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^ ask GINO?
hah but i doubt he'll tell u
hah but i doubt he'll tell u
gonk27
Sr Member
Hi Replicator, I can help with ROTJ dimensions.
I found some dimensions puporting to be accurate for Jedi boxes somewhere online, (I can't remember where) allegedly measured directly from an original costume part.
For Jedi the boxes were quoted as being:
4.375" x 3.375" x 2.375"
Someone here sourced great metal project boxes virtually the same size made by Bud Industies at Allied Electronics, I forget who it was but THANKS AGAIN. whoever you are
The boxes available here, vary only by about one or two tenths of an inch from the real measurememts.
http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDe...&DESC=AN%2D1304
"Sealed die-cast aluminum enclosure"
They seem to have no photo available but trust me they look great, you'll need to fill screw holes in each corner of the outer facing though, but if you want metal I'd recommend these for their near perfect size alone.
Jeremy
I found some dimensions puporting to be accurate for Jedi boxes somewhere online, (I can't remember where) allegedly measured directly from an original costume part.
For Jedi the boxes were quoted as being:
4.375" x 3.375" x 2.375"
Someone here sourced great metal project boxes virtually the same size made by Bud Industies at Allied Electronics, I forget who it was but THANKS AGAIN. whoever you are
The boxes available here, vary only by about one or two tenths of an inch from the real measurememts.
http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDe...&DESC=AN%2D1304
"Sealed die-cast aluminum enclosure"
They seem to have no photo available but trust me they look great, you'll need to fill screw holes in each corner of the outer facing though, but if you want metal I'd recommend these for their near perfect size alone.
Jeremy
Durasteel Corporation
Well-Known Member
I know exactly where those measurements came from...ie, the source and they arent screen accurate. In fact I can say they were a prototype.
I have an original steel ESB/ROTJ vintage enclosure. My guess is that is easily 40 years old given the oxidation. Has what looks like the word Angein or Anjom on it. Ive got no idea what that means. French??
Those quoted dimensions are not quite right but you could get away if you werent too concerned about super screen accuracy. Unfortunately yes they are impossible to find. :unsure
Oh and as far as modern enclosures....if they are cast, they are not square.
Translation: they are slanted to accunt for drafting and water glancing.
I spent three frickin years trying fellas which is why I started making them:
Some of the modern cast versions have very thin screw holes which will yank out from the belt pressure (one of the other reasons I dont use them). I tried these with my first pair of bud boxes, and the backplate ripped open after a few costumed events. :angry
GINO
Sr Member
I'm calling you out on that statement Durasteel.
I don't believe you have an original vintage (or modern for that matter) ESB/ROTJ enclosure.
It is my opinion that you like to embelish in order to draw attention to your belt sales. Which if they are being touted as taken from original ESB/ROTJ style box, is totally untrue.
I absolutely hate when people make claims like that when it is obviously untrue in the eyes of people who know better. Problem is that most people don't know better and those are the ones who get taken advantage of.
I don't believe you have an original vintage (or modern for that matter) ESB/ROTJ enclosure.
It is my opinion that you like to embelish in order to draw attention to your belt sales. Which if they are being touted as taken from original ESB/ROTJ style box, is totally untrue.
I absolutely hate when people make claims like that when it is obviously untrue in the eyes of people who know better. Problem is that most people don't know better and those are the ones who get taken advantage of.
Durasteel Corporation
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the imput Mr. Info Share
You have a long history of taking without giving Gino (which amusingly enough was alluded to above no less). And you call me a liar to top it off. Seems to me you were warned by the moderators to stop. In fact I recall three times when you tried this same stunt. Absolutely amazing. Now, if you quit blaming other people and did some intelligent research you might score a box too. Here a hint....try Europe. Wow...thats a revelation. :rolleyes
But by all means, Gino....please share. Oh, wait, I forgot...you dont.
GINO
Sr Member
I'm just calling it as I see it and it's not cool to sell people stuff under the false assumption that what they are getting was taken from something that you don't have.
As far as me sharing, you got it all wrong. I DO share. I share a lot actually. Only I share with those close to me, like minded, and not with the public at large. That would explain why you are out of the loop.
Here's one for you.
[image]http://www.biovitasteak.com/gino/vader_closeup.JPG[/image]
As far as me sharing, you got it all wrong. I DO share. I share a lot actually. Only I share with those close to me, like minded, and not with the public at large. That would explain why you are out of the loop.
Here's one for you.
[image]http://www.biovitasteak.com/gino/vader_closeup.JPG[/image]
GINO
Sr Member
Thanks.
Here's another one.
Also, for those who don't understand the apprehension for some to not give away the farm in terms of their research or findings, I say you haven't been in the hobby long enough. It certainly is not hoarding for the sake of being selfish. I tend to share things with people who think like me in regards to props, have the exact same goals in mind, and those who I've established a sense of trust with.
[image]http://www.biovitasteak.com/gino/vader_trooper.JPG[/image]
vader71
Sr Member
Thanks for sharing anouther shot. I enjoy seeing the better Vaders.
Its a motivation to push me to get to the finish line with mine someday. But mine is ANH and as noted there is yet to be a perfect helmet.
Question if I may, is the belt and boxes the only weathered item on the Vader?
Its a motivation to push me to get to the finish line with mine someday. But mine is ANH and as noted there is yet to be a perfect helmet.
Question if I may, is the belt and boxes the only weathered item on the Vader?
SHalamar
Well-Known Member
Theoretically, it shouldn't be too difficult to get near accurate dimensions on those belt boxes, based on those pics. If you know precise dimensions of any of the items on Vader, You should be able to extrapolate the size of the boxes.
Still, it is incredibly disenheartening. A prop board where.. people don't share about props? Bizarre.
Still, it is incredibly disenheartening. A prop board where.. people don't share about props? Bizarre.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
Disheartening, yes but not without reason. Some of the crafters here have been burned and burned badly from seemingly innocuous requests, like belt box dimensions or hi res photos for example. As of now on the RPF, it is the nature of the beast. People have invested sometimes hundreds of man hours in research. Some of it is digging with people who are truly in the know, other times it is attempting to get measurements from exhibits and such.
While sad to see, I can readily understand where they are coming from in their reluctance. You will get close approximations from just blowing up some good pics to lifesize and working from there.
