Titanic: What Caused the Ship to Crash

Curious how many other steel-hulled ships that went down by the head experienced an actual breaking of the hull.

Titanic is the only one I've heard about.

There were a lot of Great Lake freighters that broke up in bad weather and cold temperatures making the steel brittle was blamed for some of the losses.
 
Not Cthulhu, but close:

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This was a pretty interesting read. I'm not up on ship steering of the period and have no opinion on the subject but this guy tries to debunk some of this woman's claims.

"For all of you that think that the ship continued to steam on after the collision, I suggest that if you want to know the truth then you READ the book by Walter Lord. "A Night To Remember." Within minutes of the Titanic hitting the berg, the Captain appeared on the bridge and orders the carpenter to sound the ship. Moments after that, the safety valves from the boilers began to open, and the pressurized steam began to escape. After that, the stokers were sent to trim the boilers.

Ok a ship powered by steam has to build a lot of pressure. 1200-1600 PSI. That steam is what the boilers produce. The steam leaves the boilers and in the end spins either a piston or a turbine If the pressure gets too great, then the steam will make the boilers explode. When the ship stopped the boilers were still building high pressure steam. Within minutes the safety valves open and that steam escapes. To keep it from happening the boiler is trimmed. That means that the fires are reduced in the boiler to have less heat, thereby making less steam. Less steam means that the boilers are safer. Once the safety valves have lifted and the boilers were trimmed it could take up to an half an hour to build up steam again. Within a half an hour, the lifeboats were already being lowered. The ship never moved under her own power again, if they had tried then the ship would have broken up.

The rudder may have looked small, but it was strong enough to move the ship. This theory has been de-bunked since 1912. You need to remember that large twin screw ships are steered as much with the engines as they are with the action of the rudder. Especially when they need to turn fast. Or are moving slowly.

There was no steering error either, the Titanic was built with a helm that was rigged to act as a tiller does. If you want to turn to the right with a tiller, then you push the tiller to the left. When Murdoch said he was trying to "Port around it." He meant that he had turned to Starboard (right) to make the ship MOVE to the left. He would have backed the Starboard engine to make the turn faster. That would have pushed the stern harder to the right and made the bow move quicker to the left. It was not some strange steering manuever, it was the way that ships were steered in 1912. It would not be until the mass use of the auto changed the way that steering was rigged, even the first cars used a tiller instead of a wheel."
 
Anyone else see the special on History Channel where they figured out why it sank so fast? Turns out the ice actually caused 70 feet (from one side of the boat to the other side) to rip off and its intact on the ocean bottom. I think they found another identical piece the same size so the ship left a trail of coal and debris as it kept moving even before it sank.
 
I was so certain this was going to be another Matt Munson thread!!!

Matt Munson built the Titanic with his bare hands in one day...he wasnt satisfied with his creation so he swim across the atlantic to punch the starboard side...You know the rest....


happy jedi?
 
Matt Munson built the Titanic with his bare hands in one day...he wasnt satisfied with his creation so he swim across the atlantic to punch the starboard side...You know the rest....


happy jedi?

I really think we should let all the "Matt Munson" crap go. I like the guy. I really do. But please fellas, stop drawing his name into everything. I mean EVERYTHING!! I would not appreciate the same done to me. Thank you. That is all.
 
Million and one theories but yeah i suspect its a publicity stunt for profit, and if it is true it's pretty shocking to keep that a secret for all those years from the families of those that perished.
And even more distasteful to profit from it.
 
Million and one theories but yeah i suspect its a publicity stunt for profit, and if it is true it's pretty shocking to keep that a secret for all those years from the families of those that perished.
And even more distasteful to profit from it.

I was thinking the same thing...it is a publicity stunt to gain recognition and profit for her book.

Honestly, if it was my families darkest secret. I would tell historians that my great grandfather kept it a secret for all these years and try to supply proof. I wouldnt write a book to profit from it, but to help them support their theories.

I can understand why they kept it a secret if it is true. Back then, they did not have the scientific means or knowledge to discover why the ship had sunk. The could have thought that the fault was solely on the crewmen for turning in the wrong direction, and they covered it up to protect the crewman and his family. They were trying to help a fellow comrade. The problem is that there were so many other significant reasons why the Titanic sunk which would be theorized years later. Hell, it took them decades to support the claim that the Titanic split into two halves. They were oblivious to the things PHarchivist mentioned earlier. Also, if it wasnt for that one eye witness that came forward that she heard Ismay and Captain Smith talking about arriving early in New York then that could have been another dark secret that would have never been discovered..
 
Anyone else see the special on History Channel where they figured out why it sank so fast? Turns out the ice actually caused 70 feet (from one side of the boat to the other side) to rip off and its intact on the ocean bottom. I think they found another identical piece the same size so the ship left a trail of coal and debris as it kept moving even before it sank.

Sank so fast? It took two hours. I would like to see any modern cruise liner similarly holed stay afloat more than about twenty minutes...
 
Scientists of the future figuring that every single disaster in history could be traced back to the maiden voyage of Titanic being successful went back and made sure it was sunk in the most horrific way to scare people. Little did they know what other horrors arose from that event.
 
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