The Walking Dead Season 2 Trailer

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I'm not sure if Rick was or wasn't waiting for Shane to come back. If what I think the CDC Doc whispered to him is true, he may indeed have been waiting for Shane to come back to "Shane" Shane again. :D The idea being to spare the group from seeing one of their own become a walker, again.
 
The creator's WIMPED OUT by not letting Carl shoot Shane.

But besides that, glad to finally see Shane get what was coming.
 
I guess that makes since, but it still appears that nobody seams to have known about this fact.
Oh, and why didn't the thugs in the bar that were shot, did not turn into zombies? Not a long enough time frame?
I know there are different variations to the rules, by different directors and such, but it just seems to be another hidden detail to the storyline.

They were both shot in the head, so no zombie time for them
 
I guess that makes since, but it still appears that nobody seams to have known about this fact.
Oh, and why didn't the thugs in the bar that were shot, did not turn into zombies? Not a long enough time frame?
I know there are different variations to the rules, by different directors and such, but it just seems to be another hidden detail to the storyline.

Kevin's right. They both got shot in the head. However, timeframes do exist, apparently. In the comic (which is also reflecting a bit in the show) is that the timeframes varies.

For some, it takes seconds, while others it takes hours. A good example is Amy, Andrea's sister. It took her hours for her to transform (in the show at least. Andrea shoots her in the head after her death before she could reanimate in the comics). The same is true with Shane in the comics, as it apparently took hours for him to resurrect (the timeframe is uncertain, because when he died in the comics, it was before the discovery that no matter how you die you resurrect, which was revealed in Volume 3, after they find the prison). However, in the show, Shane turned within a few seconds (this sort of happened in Volume 3 of the comic to Julie (Tyreese's daughter) and Chris (Julie's boyfriend), in which after they had sex, they had a suicide pact, and Chris pulled the trigger too soon killing her. Minutes later, she came back as a zombie. The same is true with Chris, after being choked to death by Tyreese).

In fact, I do believe Jenner told the group that the times for transformation varied between minutes to hours (or was it days?). That's why Shane turned quickly while Amy took hours.
 
In fact, I do believe Jenner told the group that the times for transformation varied between minutes to hours (or was it days?). That's why Shane turned quickly while Amy took hours.

Yep, I remember Jenner telling them it took anywhere from minutes to hours to return.

If Rick wasn't waiting for Shane to come back then what was up with all the little flashes of zombie teeth and random chewings while he was perched over Shane's corpse?

I also loved the scene in this episode with Rick and Daryl when Rick brought up how he shot Dale the night before and he commented "It's not fair that you should do all the heavy lifting."
 
I was thinking about it too. I think they are all infected, and carrying the "reanimation" virus or what ever you want to call it. It's dormant as long as you're alive, because your brain is strong enough to control it's self. It's dormant until you die and go brain dead. After that, it can take over the body and reanimate you. Think about all the blood and guts and stuff they have had splashed all over them at times. They haven't gotten sick and died, it takes someone killing them. Just a theory.....
 
Yep, I remember Jenner telling them it took anywhere from minutes to hours to return.

If Rick wasn't waiting for Shane to come back then what was up with all the little flashes of zombie teeth and random chewings while he was perched over Shane's corpse?

I can't respond to that just yet. You see, the power went out at my house, and by the time the receiver booted back up, it was about 10 minutes into Comic Book Men. But the highlights showed the ending scene (basically what i missed), but I'm assuming you mean after Carl shot him. If its in that case, then it could very well be a visual tie-in to the horde of zombies that are approaching. If not the case, the reason why Rick may have not been waiting for Shane to come back could very well be that he forgot about a timeframe or that he may have forgotten at that moment about what Jenner said (I mean, Rick did kill Shane, who was his best friend since high school, the man who protected Rick's wife and son when he was in a coma, who saved his son's life by risking his to get the supplies needed for the operation).

But like I said, I haven't seen the episode version of the ending, so I can't tell in what context it applies.
 
Maybe Rick felt that be it minutes or hours, Shane at least deserved to stay at peace and not wander around.

i like in the comics how Rick partially digs up Shane and makes his corpse dig the rest of the way out. He then shoots him in the head and spits on him
 
so is Rick and the little **** deaf now? Rick didnt hear the walking behind him or the groans, and then when they are frolicking back down the hill to the farm that army behind them...

And weird but it seemed a little like an episode of the A-Team to me. Cheesy and lots of verbal explanation.
 
I can understand not hearing them walking, I mean in that fall grass you make enough noise just by walking so they were far enough away and loud enough to not hear the walkers and as for not hearing the moans, maybe their ears were still ringing from the shot Carl fired?
 
guess we'll just chalk it up to loose writing again.

Its also a shame the Shane "Let me ask you somthin" drinking game has come to an end.
 
I'll say it again. Carl is a *********. Last episode he stole a gun and was largely at fault in Dale getting gutted. This episode he's told it's not his fault and that he should keep the gun by not one, but two different people. Top that off with none of them letting Daryl know he has his pistol even after he was fussing about wondering where it was. Then at the end, once again Carl is out on his own, in the middle of the night, near the woods and ends up pointing a gun at his Dad. All this will be A-OK as well. Bah.

Anyone else get the feeling that they gave T-Dog some lines just so the actor playing him could keep his health insurance from the screen actors guild?

I would of much rather of had Shane go out like he did in the comic, but I think this was done fairly well all the same. Seeing Rick getting all broken up after killing his best friend and waiting for him to come back was good to see. I thought the filming with the quick shots of zombie mouths and what not was taking you out of the moment though. (Plus it reminded me of House of the Dead which is never a good thing.)
I was thinking the same thing Flagg, and another thing when Carl was grabbed by that Walker stuck in the mud I thought he dropped the gun and ran now he shows up with it? And whats the deal with him pointing the gun at his father? I would have jacked his little ass Up! after I snatched it out of his hands just to many loose ends in the writing I wonder if these last episodes were done after Frank Darabont left the show or before and another thing didn't Lori tell Rick she thought he was dangerous and then she goes over to him tells him all this stuff and makes him feel in his mind she still cares for him and he stilll has a shot at being with her, I'm really getting tired of Lori if she was killed off I wouldn't miss her ass she's dead weight and trouble Lol.
 
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Anyone have ideas on the zombie scenes while Shane was on the ground? Was this to show he was changing or was this in his mind ?
 
Another good episode.

The only thing that had me scratching my head was when Shane came back from the dead, he suddenly had a perfectly shaved head again. But it was growing out the whole episode just before that.

I don't think Carl was aiming at his dad, He may have seen Shane getting up as when we see him, he is already walking towards Rick. I think it was just shown that way for dramatic effect. Rick was probably crapping his pants though thinking his son was going to shoot him. LOL.
 
Alright guys, last nights episode was pretty damn good but wait til next weeks you wont be disappointed.

If you can't wait and want a play-by-play then read the spoiler tag.


Obviously the finale will be spoiled, so last chance. Also if anyone has any questions Ill answer them but use spoiler tags so you dont ruin it for others.


Shot opens in Atlanta: a group of walkers are feasting on what looks like Rick's horse, or what's left of it, when they're startled by the sound of a helicopter flying overhead. The horde migrates over several days, weeks, a great distance, and eventually comes to a fence. The fence bows and breaks under the relentless forward motion of the walkers. The herd presses on. Wandering aimlessly in the forest, the walkers turn as a gunshot goes off like a beacon, leading them to dinner. Soon they are closing in on Rick and Carl, as they leave the scene of Shane's murder.

Daryl and Glenn arrive back at the farmhouse. They explain that they heard a gunshot, and share their confounding findings about Randall.

As they walk back to the house, Carl asks Rick about what happened to Shane. Soon after, they notice the walkers bearing down on them, and it's not long before they are overtaken and have to make a run for the barn. Back at the house, the rest of the survivors are just figuring out that Carl is missing and walkers are approaching. Lori is panicking. Hershel passes out the guns.

The horde is making quick work of the barn. Rick dumps gasoline everywhere, busts open the door to lure the zombies inside, and climbs up to the loft with Carl. Carl drops a lighter into the gasoline-soaked hay, igniting everything in sight. Meanwhile, the men and Andrea shoot from their cars in a futile attempt to corral the herd and buy time.

Finally, Daryl figures out that Rick and Carl must be in the barn, and instructs Jimmy to drive the RV to the barn to rescue them. Rick and Carl manage to barely escape, while Jimmy is devoured inside the RV. Blood is everywhere, coating the windshield.

The survivors are starting to run out of ammo. The horde is too large.The women hold hands and make a run for it as Hershel makes a last stand for the farmhouse. They are just about clear when Patricia is attacked from the side and is devoured while Beth is still holding onto her.

Carol is headed off by a few walkers and backed into a corner with nothing but a plank of wood to defend herself. Andrea saves her but is attacked from behind and gets pinned under a walker. T-dog pulls his car around, but quickly has to leave the scene with Beth and Lori before the car is overtaken.

Glenn tells Maggie that the farm is lost; they have to get off the farm, now. Hershel comes to the same realization, almost too late, as a walker sneaks up from behind. Rick saves Herschel and they along with Carl head out in their own direction. Glenn and Maggie take off as well. Daryl finds Carol about to collapse from running, and they speed off together on Daryl's motorcycle. Andrea is abandoned. The barn collapses into the flames. And we're not even halfway done.

The group is now scattered. Glenn and Maggie switch places in the car as Maggie breaks down and can't continue driving. Glenn says they need to make their way to the highway, but Maggie protests that the herd came from that direction. Glenn finally tells Maggie that he loves her.

Rick, Carl, and Hershel arrive at the highway, where they left the care package for Sophia, hoping that the others will think to rendezvous here. Hershel is ready to part ways, but Rick wants to stick together.

Lori and T-Dog argue over where to drive. T-Dog wants to head to the coast, but Lori threatens to jump out of the car if he doesn't turn around and go back to the highway.

A walker appears on the highway. Rick is about to give up on waiting any longer, but… in the nick of time, the other survivors arrive. Time for a head count:

Shane - dead
Andrea - missing
Patricia - taken by the walkers
Jimmy - splattered all over the RV

Meanwhile, Andrea is running for her life in the woods, but the walkers pursue her tirelessly. She can't keep this up for long. Walkers are emerging from the trees in random directions as Andrea shoots to clear a path.

The survivors leave the highway, pushing onward, but soon run out of gas. Several people start to panic and are on the verge of giving up. Rick tries to pull everyone together. The conversation turns to Randall and Shane. Rick has to come clean. He reveals that the secret Jenner whispered to him at the CDC was that everyone is a carrier of the infection. The group is not happy that Rick has kept this from them.

Lori and Rick talk privately. Rick tells her what went down with Shane, and confesses that it wasn't just self-defense… he wanted Shane dead, he was tired of Shane dogging him and acting like Rick stole Lori and Carl from him. Lori freaks out when she finds out Carl's role in Shane's death and withdraws from Rick, refusing to let him touch her.

Andrea is exhausted. This is the end of the line. She can't carry her gun-bag any longer, her pistol is out of ammo -- she bashes in a walker's head with it -- now she's down to knives, another walker practically on top of her… enter Michonne to save Andrea at the last minute, towing two armless walkers in chains, samurai sword in hand.

The rest of the survivors set up camp in the middle of nowhere. They may have found each other again amid the chaos, but the group is still broken. Many are ready to run off into the dark and leave Rick behind, fend for themselves. They are on the verge of splitting up again, when Rick takes back control... he says they're not going anywhere; he killed his best friend for them. This isn't a democracy anymore.

The camera pans up… in the distance looms a prison facility.

End of Season 2.
 
The makers of this TV show totally wimped out by not having Carl do the deed.

I'm disappointed by Shane's death. His death was overdue and it happened at the hands of the wrong person. They dragged it out a bit longer than they should've and still even with all that time to build up some tension, I think they failed to drum up some dissention (caused by Shane) in their ranks - yeah, some of it was implied in episode 12's opening and by Andrea's (endless) lamenting... but it could've been a bit more powerful.

Don't get me wrong - it's still very good television.
 
I took it that the virus was now airborne and could enter through open wounds. I felt that they really focused on showing you that Randall had cut his arms up pretty good trying to get out of the cuffs and that Shane opened up a wound on his face to help his facade with Daryl pointing out the blood on the tree.

Checking in here, though, I overlooked those guards from the previous episodes without any bites so that thought may be off base.

Haven't read the comics yet but just purchased Book 1 - The first twelve episodes and I'm looking forward to getting into it during the season break!
 
Anyone have ideas on the zombie scenes while Shane was on the ground? Was this to show he was changing or was this in his mind ?

It was, I believe, meant to indicate the virus doing its work to reanimate Shane. I could've done without it and felt it was a bit heavy-handed, myself. Other than that, I have to say I really enjoyed the episode. I want a screenshot of Rick and Shane silhouetted against the sky in the field for a screensaver. It reminded me of a samurai film. :)
 
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