allosaur176
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and looks like they are leaving the farm next episode
The Walking Dead Season 2 Trailer
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During the last scene, my wife and I simultaneously said "holy s..."
I really enjoyed that episode. Lori is a wishy-washy beeyotch, and for a moment I was a bit cheesed Carl was walking around on his own again, but I certainly have less nit-picks with this episode than most.
I really enjoyed that episode. Lori is a wishy-washy beeyotch, and for a moment I was a bit cheesed Carl was walking around on his own again, but I certainly have less nit-picks with this episode than most.
CB2001
Master Member
You guys think you had it bad, the power went out just before the end of the episode. And by the time the DirecTV receiver booted back up, it was already in a few minutes into Comic Men. My dad wanted the answer so much, he went to AMC to see if they had the episode up (I told him that AMC won't up the episode up until next week). But, luckily, they had the highlights up, which included the parts we missed (and I freakin' called it with Shane and the kid, and Carl fulfilling his destiny from the comic). And when I saw the last bit with the zombies, I was like, "Holy $#it!" as well.
asemblyrequired
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Is is odd that I would love for me and my 7 year old to be Zombie extras . What a fun time that would be .
-james
-james
allosaur176
Sr Member
I think anyone would love the chance!
Lord Boron
Sr Member
Very tense episode. Even though I knew the outcome, I was still on edge. Loved the final pullback of the approaching herd.
Scareb
Sr Member
That was a pretty great episode, the shovel kill at the beginning of the episode was great.
But.
But.
I wish Carl had shot Shane through the neck like in the comic, I think it would have been a lot more mind blowing. Shane's got his gun pointed at Rick, you hear a bang. Ricks face is splattered with blood and you see Shane grip his throat. Camera pans to the side and you see Carl with the gun pointed at Shane, gun still smoking in his shaking hands
O.k. so why are they turning into zombies, after being killed, without being bitten?
They noticed the 2 sheriffs in the last episode (at the drop of point) were zombies, but were not bitten. So they assumed they were scratched. Now we have 2 more dead, (including Shane) that have turned. So was it something to do with that location? Or is everyone infected? It doesn't make sense?
They noticed the 2 sheriffs in the last episode (at the drop of point) were zombies, but were not bitten. So they assumed they were scratched. Now we have 2 more dead, (including Shane) that have turned. So was it something to do with that location? Or is everyone infected? It doesn't make sense?
CB2001
Master Member
As much as I would have loved to have seen that happen in the show, I think that it's best for the show because of the fact that this is a broadcast show, and there may be regulations for TV shows showing kids Carl's age shooting other humans with a gun (I don't know if its true or not, I don't know what regulations. I do know some filmmakers have issues showing little kids with guns. James Cameron is an example of this, as one idea he had the idea of having John Connor using handguns in Terminator 2, but chose not to go with it because he didn't want to promote the idea of kids using guns to children who see the film). Shooting a zombie is okay, because a zombie is no longer human (unless you're stupid like Joe Lieberman and think zombies are promoting cannibalism). But having a kid kill an adult human being, even when trying to protect his father, may not even be acceptable to the TV ratings board. But, by doing it this way, it shows that Carl isn't afraid to take out Walkers when his father is in danger, even with one that had once been a man he knew and looked up to. Granted, by having it like they have it in the show, he misses out on the important lesson (as stated in the comic, shooting a human Shane to protect his father "wasn't like shooting the dead ones" and killing a human should never be like that), but the fact that he still fulfills his destiny of shooting Shane is still a great moment for the show.
CB2001
Master Member
The answer is...
There is no answer. It's just something that happens, even in the comic. It doesn't matter how you die (with the exception of being shot in the head), when you die, you come back, period. It's in the same vein as to why the dead come back to life in Romero's Night of the Living Dead film, Romero gives a possible answer, but not a definitive answer. Even in Dawn of the Dead, Romero doesn't provide the answer, but imposes a theological answer, being an answer from the practice of voodoo: "When there's no more room in hell, the Dead will walk the Earth." But it's not a definitive answer.
The same is true for why they come back. The best guess, if you really want to hypothesize it, is that everyone living and dead is infected with whatever it is that turns humans into zombies. But as long as they remain alive, they don't turn into zombies. For all we know, it could be something in the air or in the entire Earth's water supply. But, the answer is: There is no answer. And trying to find one is a practice in futility because it has no real barring in the story.
The same is true for why they come back. The best guess, if you really want to hypothesize it, is that everyone living and dead is infected with whatever it is that turns humans into zombies. But as long as they remain alive, they don't turn into zombies. For all we know, it could be something in the air or in the entire Earth's water supply. But, the answer is: There is no answer. And trying to find one is a practice in futility because it has no real barring in the story.
Lord Boron
Sr Member
The one thing that bothered me was, after wandering through the woods in the dark, they come out in a field, that appears to be about only 100 yards from the house, and that's where Shane decides to make his move?????
CB2001
Master Member
Um... Shane lost his damn mind, man. Any decision he made since Rick had become "the leader of the group", coupled with the emotional devastation of having a life with Lori ripped away from him (and the fact that she might be carrying his kid) is enough to lead to a psychological breaking point. That's what happened with Shane in the comic too. The stress of trying to survive and his relationship with Lori being ripped away from him (Lori probably being the only last tie he had to humanity) and the attack on the camp which resulted in a couple of deaths lead to him snapping and turning on Rick in the comic. Not to mention, in the dark, you can't even be sure of how far away the house is (and since they had been walking in the woods for a while, in the dark, for all Shane and Rick knew, at that point before Carl showed up, they could have been half a mile away from the house and at another nearby farm).
With you're question, you're looking at it through the eyes of a sane person, a person who is sitting at home, not having to worry about surviving the world that Rick and company have to deal with. When you look at the world through Shane's eyes, you see his insanity. To him, the world is full of $#it and everyone is expendable. And the thing that scares me is how many here agreed with some of his actions, the fact that they're agreeing with someone who was losing his mind, losing/lost his own humanity, and had finally lost it in this episode.
ONEYE
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Flagg
Sr Member
I'll say it again. Carl is a *********. Last episode he stole a gun and was largely at fault in Dale getting gutted. This episode he's told it's not his fault and that he should keep the gun by not one, but two different people. Top that off with none of them letting Daryl know he has his pistol even after he was fussing about wondering where it was. Then at the end, once again Carl is out on his own, in the middle of the night, near the woods and ends up pointing a gun at his Dad. All this will be A-OK as well. Bah.
Anyone else get the feeling that they gave T-Dog some lines just so the actor playing him could keep his health insurance from the screen actors guild?
I would of much rather of had Shane go out like he did in the comic, but I think this was done fairly well all the same. Seeing Rick getting all broken up after killing his best friend and waiting for him to come back was good to see. I thought the filming with the quick shots of zombie mouths and what not was taking you out of the moment though. (Plus it reminded me of House of the Dead which is never a good thing.)
Anyone else get the feeling that they gave T-Dog some lines just so the actor playing him could keep his health insurance from the screen actors guild?
I would of much rather of had Shane go out like he did in the comic, but I think this was done fairly well all the same. Seeing Rick getting all broken up after killing his best friend and waiting for him to come back was good to see. I thought the filming with the quick shots of zombie mouths and what not was taking you out of the moment though. (Plus it reminded me of House of the Dead which is never a good thing.)
I think it is a matter of irrational thought. I mean he locked the door on the shed, after leading the newcomer into the woods, and claiming to have been ambushed. He is just losing it, or has lost it!
CB2001
Master Member
Hey, let's go take a walk. Just you and me.:lol
Sure. You get to walk in front and I'm carrying a fully loaded shotgun, if you don't mind.
:lol
firesprite
Master Member
I don't think he was waiting for him to come back. I think he was just sitting there wrestling with what he did. He looked pretty darned shocked to see Shane coming for his brains, IMO.
I guess that makes since, but it still appears that nobody seams to have known about this fact.
Oh, and why didn't the thugs in the bar that were shot, did not turn into zombies? Not a long enough time frame?
I know there are different variations to the rules, by different directors and such, but it just seems to be another hidden detail to the storyline.
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