The Walking Dead Season 2 Trailer

The writing on this show is just bizarre :confused

They spend the whole episode building up the debate over whether the kid should be executed. Shane tells Dale with *heavy foreshadowing* that if the kid is spared he will end up with blood on his hands.

Then they have Rick wuss out of the execution again , thus negating the slowburn of the whole episode, then Dale is randomly gutted by Carl's walker.

What the hell???

So they set up all the drama, then pull the rug away, with the only message seeming to be that Rick's an unbelievable puzzy and Carl's a potentially psychopathic liability.

Doh!
 
Dale didnt bug me and in a way i liked him, he was though my girlfriends favorite character..i read the spoilers yesterday as i couldnt resist and knew what was coming at the end but kept my mouth shut..and dang what a horrific way to go..my girlfriend was actually in tears over it.
 
I'm still wondering how -

a zombie, who barely has enough strentgh to walk straight or pull himself out of the mud, was able to tear Dale open like a bag of Doritos.
 
I'm still wondering how -

a zombie, who barely has enough strentgh to walk straight or pull himself out of the mud, was able to tear Dale open like a bag of Doritos.

I agree with you, but that seems to be the case with most zombie flicks. Best example look at Capt Rhodes in Day of the Dead. But it did look like his hands cut through like buttah!
 
I was also caught off guard by the ending. I was kind of hoping that despite all the chaos going on with Dale after the attack, that somebody would have said some kindly departing words to him. He didn't even realize in his dying moments that his moral stand against the group had any kind of impact on saving the kid's life (at least temporarily). It was all "Adios Muchacho" and then, BANG!

It would have been nice to have seen Rick whisper to him, "You were right."
In contrast, I was really expecting Shane to be smiling in the shadows only to have Dale see his face right before the trigger was pulled. That would have made a truly horrible way to go. Seeing someone's pleasure in your own death.
 
I was also caught off guard by the ending. I was kind of hoping that despite all the chaos going on with Dale after the attack, that somebody would have said some kindly departing words to him. He didn't even realize in his dying moments that his moral stand against the group had any kind of impact on saving the kid's life (at least temporarily). It was all "Adios Muchacho" and then, BANG!

It would have been nice to have seen Rick whisper to him, "You were right."
In contrast, I was really expecting Shane to be smiling in the shadows only to have Dale see his face right before the trigger was pulled. That would have made a truly horrible way to go. Seeing someone's pleasure in your own death.

You missed one thing, Shane didn't smile, he looked away, it was deja vu. He turned away like he did with Sofia. He's not as bad as some think. He has feelings, he cares, that's why he gets so upset with Rick. Shane has faults, is he damaged, so is everyone in that group. Problems they had before have only increased. It's difficult to hide your true self when you are with a small group of people for an extended time, living together. The "masks", "defenses" all seem to slip a little and show what lies beneath.
 
I agree with you, but that seems to be the case with most zombie flicks. Best example look at Capt Rhodes in Day of the Dead. But it did look like his hands cut through like buttah!
Its not that hard to do, really its all about the concentration of pressure for each square inch. zombies nail are usually a lil long too so it's the little edges that start it. Starting into someones gut is almost the same as fingergutting a large fish, once the skin tears it will give.
 
Its not that hard to do, really its all about the concentration of pressure for each square inch. zombies nail are usually a lil long too so it's the little edges that start it. Starting into someones gut is almost the same as fingergutting a large fish, once the skin tears it will give.

I didn't have a problem with Dale getting gutted. Rhodes in Day of the Dead being torn in half like a loaf of fresh bread was a bit much though.
 
Take a look at the appearance of the end of the bones in a person's fingers. They're really kind of pointed. A zombie doesn't heal, and it's only weapons are teeth and hands, so as it tears away at things the bones of their fingers become exposed and it doesn't take much to fracture them and turn them into five daggers on each hand. Just pushing it through the skin of the stomach would be easy, and then ripping, that's not all that hard. You could rip a person's ear off extremely easily, the skin of the stomach isn't much different.
 
Is Dale's demise what all those spoilers were about, or is there more?

Just wanna know if I still need to be careful avoiding them....
 
Carl is a D-bag child. His parents haven't caught on. Next episode he better spill the beans or there will be no hope for his character.
 
I don't know how anyone can side with Shane. Does the group need to survive? Yes. Does the group have to lose their humanity to survive? No. Dale was the only one who was the voice of reason. Shane is dragging the group down into his point of view of the world, which is that the world is full of crap, which is probably the same mentality that the other group of 30 probably believe as well. He claims his actions are without self, but they are more than selfish than most people see (did he go get the things needed to save Carl? Yes. But he shot and left Otis behind to be eaten alive and then lied about it. The event at the barn, some see it as him trying to protect the group. But he was completely selfish, and was doing it as a means of saying "f#%k you" to both Hershel and Rick).

In fact, from what I gathered from the preview for the next episode...

Shane released and/or killed the kid in hopes to making him look like he was a major threat to the group after Rick expresses his intention to let the kid go. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Shane let the kid out of the shed and let him loose in the woods, then bashed his own face in so that it'd be bloody when he goes back to the group and claim that the kid escaped and to enhance the group's misbelief that the kid is dangerous so that they'd kill him. If not letting the kid loose in the woods alive, its more likely that Shane took the kid into the woods, leaving behind a set of handcuffs to make it look like that the kid escape, killed him with a knife and then left his body out in the woods, busted himself in the face and then misguides the group into thinking the kid escaped and that he's dangerous anyway).

If the previous is true, then its Shane's attempt to drag everyone else into his point of view. We know that very good and well that Rick, now, is the last hope of the group to still keep their humanity. If the latter is true, he's not only trying to drag everyone into his point of view, but he's become even more of a rabid dog that deserves to be put down before he can kill anyone else or gets anyone else killed. He's already shown his true colors to Rick. Rick has been too hopeful in trying to bring him back. But Shane is too far gone and as long as he's alive, he's going to be even more of a threat to the group than the group of 30 that the kid was a part of.

Besides, we don't know if the group is as dangerous as we've been lead to believe (we know that there's some dangerous men in the group not just because of the two who drew on Rick, but it doesn't mean the whole group is dangerous. Don't you think that people would think the survivors we are following was dangerous if the only two characters we were first introduced to from that group was Merle and Daryl?). You notice that Daryl forgot to mention to the others after torturing the kid that the group the kid was a part of also consisted of women and children (only pointing out the major negatives that the kid talked about). And since they don't know anything about this other group, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the survivors are making a misjudgement of the group like Rick and Co. did before in the Season 1 episode, "Vatos." And before anyone argues that the guys from the other group shot at Rick, Glenn and Hershel, keep in mind that Rick admitted to killing the two guys. How would you react if someone admitted killing two people you know? Wouldn't you see them as a threat?
 
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Don't you think Carl would have some rules.....such as don't leave the area around the house, or stay within my sight? That kid wandered all over the place and not once did his parents miss him.
 
Carl...with great power comes great resp...wait...Carl you shoulda stopped the thief...er zombie when you had the chance...wait...hey Carl phone for you, guy said his is name Pete
 
Don't you think Carl would have some rules.....such as don't leave the area around the house, or stay within my sight? That kid wandered all over the place and not once did his parents miss him.

He's lucky Daryl didn't catch him pawing through his stuff. In his current state of mind, Daryl might've broken the kid's wrist for his troubles.

Carl needs some MAJOR boundaries enforced on him. Number one should be 'don't go beyond the fence line'. You'd think that with all these adults who're supposed to be on watch (ahem, Andrea), someone would notice him skulking off.
 
Dont get caught up on this "humanity" talk, its about making the right choices for survival. But since youve brought this up,
I resisted going into nit pick mode such as I didnt see boney fingers or the fact finger bones are not sharp, it takes much more than zombie weight to plunge into someones gut, Carl seemed to have jump cut to running for his life to standing in the living room, the on duty lookout just carelessly wandered out into the darkness away from his post when suspicious sounds were heard yet he informed nobody even though those people were all seemingly within spitting range yet heard no suspicious noises, swamp zombie either got free by twisting and dislocating a leg or whatever but instantly got stuck knee deep again yet he was on the ground, this is the only farm ive ever seen with no farm cats or dogs yet cows on hand when needed...

Ill let all that go because we got rid of the most irritating character on the show. Even Farmer John toughened up yet RV man kept on with the fart smell confused look talking about humanity. Id rather they stuck a knife in his skull than waste the bullet but im guessing the gunshot noise is what brings the happenings of the next episode. Because nobody can see farmhouse lights from miles away.
 
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