The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh

tk5378

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Anyone have patterns for the mask and coat of Dr Syn from the "Scarecrow of Romeny Marsh" tv series? I just picked up the Disney Treasures DVD set and had forgotten how cool this outfit is...I really want to make a costume now, any help would be appreciated. I have the proper hat already, looking for patterns or measurements for the mask and coat/cloak.

Thanks,
Russell.
 
OH, just curious if you ever saw Erich Lubatti's mask of that scarecrow? If that kinda stuff interests you?
It's at lubattidesigns.com under custom projects
mike
 
A childhood fav of mine!

There is a web site out there that does the masks, might be of some reference to you
 
That doesn't appear to be valid webaddress. I'll try searching for it later.

I did see a website that makes the masks and coats to sell, but their prices are upsurd and the photos aren't all that revealing.
 
Dont know what my computers problem was earlier...blah. I just took a look at it, it's nice but nowhere near screen accurate, not to mention that the original mask was burlap and silk according to the information I've found so far. I also learned that there was a thin plastic/rubber piece inside the face that was cast from the actors face so that the mask would keep the proper shape and not itch when worn for long periods of time.
 
Saw your thread. I too have been trying to find a source for the pattern. The site with the ready made costume masks and coats is hollywoodprop.com but sounds like you have stumbled upon it too. About 5 years ago...there was a site out of the UK I believe...a gentleman named Tom Herring had a website that had lots of information on the character. He even had detailed patterns for making a scarecrow mask. I had meant to write down the information but put it off and then later when I went back...it had been closed. The search still continues.
 
Love Dr Syn! Any information on this costume would be fantastic! I have alot of experiance using burlap so would considering making the mask :)
 
I know Wally Wingert made a costume.

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Here is his website: www.wallyontheweb.com

Andy
 
Dont know what my computers problem was earlier...blah. I just took a look at it, it's nice but nowhere near screen accurate, not to mention that the original mask was burlap and silk according to the information I've found so far. I also learned that there was a thin plastic/rubber piece inside the face that was cast from the actors face so that the mask would keep the proper shape and not itch when worn for long periods of time.

This is the first I've heard of any internal cast piece in the mask.
May I ask where you found this bit of info as well as the "Burlap and silk" tidbit?


This has always been one of my favs too and would like to learn more.

Thanks in advance!
Chuck...
 
Dont know what my computers problem was earlier...blah. I just took a look at it, it's nice but nowhere near screen accurate, not to mention that the original mask was burlap and silk according to the information I've found so far. I also learned that there was a thin plastic/rubber piece inside the face that was cast from the actors face so that the mask would keep the proper shape and not itch when worn for long periods of time.

I's love to know as well.
Laffo.
 
One of things I thought I remembered from Tom Herring's old site mentioned that the area around the mouth was "glued" or some sort of adhesive was used to allow the actor to speak and the mask conformed to his lips and jaw area while speaking his lines. This allowed for the great affect of the mask being part of the actor. I may be wrong in the actual source but I do seem to recall having read this a few years back. Though the website listed is a bit on the $$$ pricey side...I dare say that the creative individuals that frequent this site could do an even better job.. I do recall that on the Tom Herring site...he showed detailed pattern of how the material for the mask was gathered and tied at the top. There may be some here who may be familiar with this old site and can provide more information. There is a yahoo message group for Dr. Syn fans. I used to check it out but there isn't much traffic there and mostly revolved around the novelization of the character. Anyway I look forward to seeing what else everyone can come up with. It is great being a member here! Lots of great info and helpful folks willing to share. Regards.
 
Thanks! $400 for a mask is a tad excessive though :lol I reckon i could make them for alot less! May give it a go ina few days prehaps :)

You could. A friend of mine bought both the mask and the coat. When the mask arrived, I was a bit surprised that it was made of felt and burlap. The hat was a separate piece made of felt and had straw hot-glued inside. Most of the straw had broken/fallen off by the second time he tried it on. There was nothing inside the mask to protect your face from rubbing against the burlap, and it was almost impossible to see out the eye holes. It was very simply made and I honestly felt that he spent at LEAST 300 bucks too much. It was almost embarassing.

I replaced the straw with some synthetic stuff that looked the same, but didn't break or fall out, and I took an old Mexican-style wrestling mask and hot-glued that inside so that it could fit to his face, let him see out the eye holes and not itch like crazy!

The coat was also felt, which may or may not have been historically authentic, but either way, was a better buy than the mask, although still too pricey, as far as I was concerned. The coat was very clean, but the instructions did suggest ways to dirty it up (we used spray paint, as we wanted it to last) and pointed out that the bird droppings were "optional". We added them, using acrylic paint.

After buying the mask, coat, shirt, pants, boots and gloves, I'll admit he did LOOK good, but he'd spent almost 2000 bucks! He ended up wearing the costume at Wizard World Chicago last year, for all of about one hour.

One warning... if you do make a costume, I strongly suggest you wear it enough to get used to it before wearing it in public, to a party or convention or whatever. That wooden cross-piece in the shoulders will smack into everything and everyone till you get used to it, and it hurts! I had bruises to prove it!
 
You could. A friend of mine bought both the mask and the coat. When the mask arrived, I was a bit surprised that it was made of felt and burlap. The hat was a separate piece made of felt and had straw hot-glued inside. Most of the straw had broken/fallen off by the second time he tried it on. There was nothing inside the mask to protect your face from rubbing against the burlap, and it was almost impossible to see out the eye holes. It was very simply made and I honestly felt that he spent at LEAST 300 bucks too much. It was almost embarassing.

I replaced the straw with some synthetic stuff that looked the same, but didn't break or fall out, and I took an old Mexican-style wrestling mask and hot-glued that inside so that it could fit to his face, let him see out the eye holes and not itch like crazy!

The coat was also felt, which may or may not have been historically authentic, but either way, was a better buy than the mask, although still too pricey, as far as I was concerned. The coat was very clean, but the instructions did suggest ways to dirty it up (we used spray paint, as we wanted it to last) and pointed out that the bird droppings were "optional". We added them, using acrylic paint.

After buying the mask, coat, shirt, pants, boots and gloves, I'll admit he did LOOK good, but he'd spent almost 2000 bucks! He ended up wearing the costume at Wizard World Chicago last year, for all of about one hour.

One warning... if you do make a costume, I strongly suggest you wear it enough to get used to it before wearing it in public, to a party or convention or whatever. That wooden cross-piece in the shoulders will smack into everything and everyone till you get used to it, and it hurts! I had bruises to prove it!


Thats a fantastic review thanks :) Very good point about the crosspiece, i can imagine that being a nightmare at the big cons :lol I will have a crack at the mask at least in a little while, thats for some of the tip!
 
One of things I thought I remembered from Tom Herring's old site mentioned that the area around the mouth was "glued" or some sort of adhesive was used to allow the actor to speak and the mask conformed to his lips and jaw area while speaking his lines. This allowed for the great affect of the mask being part of the actor.

The times he spoke and his mouth moved - it was face paint and not the mask. It looks pretty clear to me in the new Disney Treasures Version.
Laffo.
 
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