The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST!

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  1. DaddyfromNaboo

    DaddyfromNaboo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This thread is where to look first for any information regarding PEPAKURA.

    If you are looking for information on the technique, then go through this thread first. Pep is not that hard to understand, so a quick glance will go a long way.

    For the original software go to Tamasoft´s website
    Pepakura Designer

    There is a free pep file viewer available from Tamasoft, the full version of the software which lets you edit and manipulate files and make your own unfolds, for only 38 US-$.
    Requests for "free" versions of Pepakura are unnecessary at that price tag.

    Freeware and shareware 3D-software is available e.g. under

    www.blender.org

    www.wings3d.com

    www.sketchup.google.com

    MeshLab - Browse Files at SourceForge.net

    More can be found here:

    Free 3D Software


    Resources for models

    If you are looking for specific resources like files and can´t find them in here, then please use the search function first before posting any requests. Google also is your friend, and it´s very likely that if "[insertdescription of what you are lookingfor] pepakura pdo" does not produce any results on Google, a request posted here will do the same.

    As an example for resources you can have a look

    -at Dungbeetles website:
    http://www.printablearmory.com

    -at robo3687´s Iron Man MK IV suit files (from "Iron Man 2"):
    robo3687's Iron Man Pep Files - SD War Machine links page 73

    -at one of the main resources on the web is the 405th and their forum, having a huge archive of knowledge about Pepakura:
    405th.com | We Build Your Character | Home of the 405th Infantry Division, 405th Source News, and Forums | Learn to Build Master Chief armor, the Arbiter, Cortana, ODST armor, Recon armor, Hayabusa armor, Marine armor, and more! - Home

    - at this forum with a download library
    Hobby Forum

    - Propzone, Belgian forum and site with a few free peps
    Propzone

    - huge Pepakura Wiki with subsections e.g. for Star Wars
    Pepakura File Wiki

    - huge Pepakura Wiki for HALO armor
    Pepakura File Index - Halo Costuming Wiki

    - this blog that has a few quite unique and high detailed peps such as Buzz Lightyear, Darth Vader, Terminator etc.
    ELSO CRAFT

    - a plethora of all kinds of models, from figures to vehicles to props

    http://www.papercraftmuseum.com/gallery/page/1/


    Tutorials

    Our member Stealth created a series of very good video tutorials:


    How To Use PEPAKURA For Costume Building


    http://www.therpf.com/f24/tutorial-using-pepakura-foam-costume-building-120019/

    The veterans of Pepakura armour building over at the 405th.com collected their valuable knowledge in the following forum:

    Pepakura and Cardboard Armor

    And a thread that should definitely be visited by noobs is
    http://www.therpf.com/f24/noob-field-guide-pep-costuming-175679/

    Please be aware that the main forum lives from the diversity of props.
    Asking the same, often very simple, questions over and over again only clogs up the main forums and is not necessary.
    The same goes for new threads on each and every version of the same or very similar paper prop such as a helmet.

    A thread that just simply asks "How do I work with Pepakura" or "what paper or glue should I use" or "where can I get pepakura model of XYZ" will be either integrated into this thread or deleted without further notice.


    Show off threads are of course very welcome in the main forum, but to make the experience for others as interesting as possible please refrain from posting pictures if you are only in the beginning stages, i.e. just glued a few pieces together or only have a finished paper model of helmet.


    If you create your own pep file, then it is important to give proper credit if you

    - did not create the 3D model
    - used another PDO as a basis for your work

    but still want to redistribute the Pep-file.

    The redistribution of unfolded 3D models that were used without the express permission of the original creator of the 3D model is not allowed, since its bordering on digital recasting.
    Redistribution of Pepakura files can only be done when proper credit is given to the creator and the redistributor made sure that there are no objections against redistributing the files.


    ATTENTION:
    IF YOU DECIDE TO CREATE CASTINGS OF A FINISHED ITEM THAT STARTED AS A PEP FILE, WITH THE GOAL OF SELLING COPIES, THEN PLEASE GIVE PROPER CREDIT TO THE ORIGINAL CREATOR OF THE 3D-MODEL AND GET HIS PERMISSION FIRST TO USE HIS WORK BEFORE SETTING UP A SALE!


    Enjoy your pep work and show those finished, glassed, bondoed, painted items !!!

    Michael
    (RPF staff member at the time this thread was started, now retired)
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2013
  2. MaskMaker

    MaskMaker Active Member

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    WHAT Is Pepakura ?! - Go HERE for ALL pep tech discussions!

    Someone please explain this downloading-cool-patterns-to-fold-out-of-papaer-jazz to me. Thanks...! :cool
     
  3. nachtinis

    nachtinis Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Pepakura is a paper modeling/unfolding program from Tamasoft. They are totally legit. The free programs work great.

    http://www.tamasoft.co.jp/pepakura-en/

    The program can read various 3D image files and help you "unfold" them into flat 2D representations, much like a puzzle to be cut out and built.

    LOTS of folks out ther have the paid designer program, and develop "unfolded" versions of different designs into PDO files.

    A google search on your favorite subject, followed by "pepakura" or "PDO" will probably give you a GREAT starting point.

    "So you have the Pepakura reader/designer and some PDO files, what next?"
    Look at the file in the designer and play with some settings to get to know it. When you are ready, use the Pep software to print your design onto cardstock.

    Some folks use regular paper, but cardstock will be easier to work with. You can then cut out your design and match the edges of your cutouts to other parts in the design.

    You can turn edge numbering on and off in the program and there are a few things to know that will help. The design features solid lines, dashes and dot-dashes. The solid lines are for cutting. The dashed and dot-dash lines are for folding. Looking down on your design a "------" or regularly spaced dash line will be folded like a mountain peak. or at least will follow a curve/bend toward the ceiling. The dot-dash lines "._._._" will be the valley folds and fold like a "V" or a bowl shape.

    I like to use flat, thin (they have thick foam ones, you dont want those) photograph mounting strips found itn he scrap-booking section of a craft store to match the flaps to their corresponding "face" on various peices.

    Anything that will help you cut paper and stick paper to itself is welcome here.

    After you finish your paper model, you then decide what to do with it. That particular part of the discussion is a longer post yet, but this should suffice to get you started.
     
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  4. obiwan2

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    If you do a search, this question has been asked multiple times and several topics can be found on this
     
  5. themanwoaname

    themanwoaname Sr Member

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    yeah but nachtinis did a wonderful job at answering alot of the questions i had. that searching would have maybe answered one.
    thank you nachtinis!
     
  6. obiwan2

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Not saying that he didn't....but there was a thread within the last week that asked the same question
     
  7. darkjawas

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    these help keep my kid buzy during the rainy days when cant go play outside
    and since she too young to join in the workshop

    its a starting point to build up her skills
    and helps with daddy dauther time
     
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  8. themanwoaname

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    i think i saw that thread, and it wasnt nearly as helpful. sometimes, though frowned upon asking the same question twice yields better results.
     
  9. firefly827347

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    I have to admit, I glanced at the other thread (I'm also a complete pepakura novice) out of curiosity and if it's the thread I'm thinking of, it had already dissolved into arguments about the skill levels associated with pep vs. sculpting by the bottom of page 1. I lost interest after that. Nachtinis did a great job in explaining - even I understand it now :lol
     
  10. nachtinis

    nachtinis Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    glad i could help?
     
  11. Jaedena

    Jaedena Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    I have a friend who is trying her first helmet out of this. I have a novice kind of follow up question: Would it be better to fiberglass the finished product, or use bondo? What are the pros and cons of both?
     
  12. TheNickFox

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    You have to do both. A piece of paper would crumble under the weight of Bondo...even if you put a few coats of resin on it. Bondo is very brittle, so it's only really good for adding details once you've already strengthened it with fiberglass.

    The other option for strengthening is called Rondo...I've never personally tried it, but do a search over at the 405th and I'm sure you'll find plenty of info.

    -Nick
     
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  13. darkjawas

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    what if did something close to brush coat(s) of
    smooth on roto casting resin ?? or simliar resin
     
  14. TheNickFox

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    There have been a few people who have successfully rotocasted SmoothCast on the inside of their peps to strengthen them. Most still resin the outside to prevent major leaks though. And you'll still need auto body filler (like Bondo) to smooth it out.

    -Nick
     
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  15. Capn_Jack_Savvy

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    This also ties into my thread question regarding a free 3D CG program. Blender is the one I am using in order to design a 3D image of the prop and import it into Pep.

    My follow up question to the now Page 2 thread is regarding what if your prop is larger than a standard priner 11x17 page? How can you subdivide your prop into multiple parts in order to print each section and assemble?

    Does the free download of Pep not require a license? What are the restrictions of not being licesned? Printing? Saving?
     
  16. mrfister

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    the405th.com has the most informative threads available for pepping. This includes gluing, resin coating, and bondo. A great step by step resource.
     
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  17. MaskMaker

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Many thanks to Machtinis! I'll have to start playing with this.:cool
     
  18. Egon

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Is there any way to get unfolded versions on a mac without having to install windows via bootcamp? :confused

    i have looked around, but cant seem to find any alternative, but maybe someone around here knows?

    THankS!
     
  19. Dung0beetle

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    I can print to .pdf if there is a certain file you are wanting. Send me a pm with the link to the file and I can save the unfold as a .pdf and post a link to the file for you.

    To Capn Jack Savvy: Save and export .obj are disabled in the unlicensed version. Everything else works like the paid one.
     
  20. Dancin_Fool

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    There is a Divide/Connect face button in pepakura designer which allows you to slice up the faces of an object so that it fits properly into the page.
     
  21. nachtinis

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Sorry no mac version yet.

    My process for "cardglassing":
    1) polyurethane seal the paper model at 3 coats, not too thick.
    2) glue/hotglue (seal) obvious holes in the peice where resins will leak through
    3) light coat of polyester (fiberglass) resin or smoothcast 300/325 brushed on to about 3 coats.
    4) interior resining can now be done roto casting for initial durability or slush in some smoothcast or resin. 2x coats should suffice then if you want add the fiberglass cloth to a 3rd layer.
    5) grind off any escaped resins/plastic from holes you missed
    6) bondo with a spatula at all seamed areas, be frugal and work in layers
    7) SAND repeat to #6 as needed
    8) when you get to a point where its smaller than quarter sized areas to bondo, start using a filler putty instead, glazing putty works great.
    9) SAND and repeat to #8 as needed
    10) Use a leveling resin as the final coating and sand that gradually getting to a finer grit then use steel wool
    11) grind off and sand excess resins
    12) paint
    13) ???
    14) profit

    Another process:
    1) Seal the outside of the model with polyurethane
    2) carefully wrap the model as close to its surfaces as possible with tin foil
    3) melt plasticine (non hardening clay)
    4) pour melted plasticine into model cavity and let cool
    5) remove foil and paper and you now have a base clay model to work from!
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2012
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  22. Weezer

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    No MAC version yet? What's taking so long?
     
  23. Jaedena

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    I think I may give my hand a try at making a storm trooper bucket. I've been wanting a set of armor for a while now, so why not try to make the helmet?
     
  24. clonesix

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Pepakura is becoming so popular that these questions are going to be repeated on a regular basis. Do anyone else think that a dedicated pep section be added to the forum just for this?
     
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  25. stormtrooperguy

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    I'll piggyback on here to avoid starting up another thread :)

    The lack of a Mac version has been lamented many times. I'm one of those... I have several Macs and several Linux desktops. I don't really want to load up Windows just for this.

    Is it possible to save the PDO as a PDF or something, so that they can be printed out by anyone, on any platform?

    If so, I wonder if anyone could be talked into making a PDF library...
     
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  26. Weezer

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    I agree. Putting together a PDF library would be a great idea.

    They did that over at thedentedhelmet.com. All the PDF templates are consolidated into one thread for everyone to use.
     
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  27. Capn_Jack_Savvy

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    Hey MODS!!! Howsabout a PEP Sticky???????????
     
  28. darkjawas

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    if you want i can print some up for you since live close by
     
  29. Egon

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    I might be missing something, but i checked the today for the library of pep pdfs at the dented helmet. couldnt find em.

    I am just doing something silly and thick, or does it no longer exist?
     
  30. mrfister

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    The only problem with a pdf library is that the scale of a .pdo that is converted to .pdf is a pain in the crotch to re-scale outside of pep designer. You might end up looking like a bobble head or worse depending on the file you choose.

    I recommend finding the files you want and having someone scale them for you.
     
  31. Dung0beetle

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    Re: WHAT Is Pepakura, And How Do I Get Involved???

    Can waybe open .pdo files?
     
  33. Driftwood

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    Question re. Pepakura Desinger

    I did a search on the site, and have clicked randomly on buttons in the program like a good little geek with no joy.

    Can anyone tell me if there's settings to change, or a way to increase the size of and/or move the edge numbers in Pep? When I was 25 I'm sure they would have been OK (perhaps), but that was 20 years ago and the eyes aren't what they used to be.

    What I'd like to do is both increase font size for the edge numbers, and perhaps move them so there's no overlap on small pieces.
     
  34. Sigma-LS

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    Not much you can do for the overlap but the font size should be under "line settings" in the 2D window tab.

    Might be "Line Properties" depending on what version you have.
     
  35. Dung0beetle

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    Settings - other settings - "other" tab it's under "font size of edge id"
     
  36. Sigma-LS

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    :confused You're right. Guess I went brain dead and was thinking about PD2 and not PD3. Really sorry about that.
     
  37. nachtinis

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    I occasionally HAVE to print pdf versions as my Pep View and PepD sometimes print all black pages.
     
  38. fotokid

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    iron man pep question

    I'm new to the world of pep and I'm sitting here with a table full of cut out pieces and I have no idea where to start. It's hard to identify which piece goes where.

    Any suggestions on where to start? low or high numbers first? I'm spending half my time just finding two pieces that match.
     
  39. WarMachine

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    Re: iron man pep question

    Open the pep program, click on a bunch of pieces next to each other on the 3D model, find them in your bunch and start gluing. Then when you start to run out, click the next load of pieces around that bunch, find those and start gluing those. It'll get easier to sort them out the more you get done.
     
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  40. fotokid

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    Re: iron man pep question

    Sadly I don't have the 3D model, only a PDF.
     
  41. TheNickFox

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    Re: iron man pep question

    Just start...the more piece you put together the fewer you'll have to look through when looking for your next piece. I usually try to start at a distinctive part (Iron Man's "face" for example) rather than going by the order of the numbers.

    I've never once kept the pepakura program open while working. Just keep at it. It seems daunting, but you can only move forward by just doing it.

    On another note, people have requested a pepakura sub-forum, but I think we need a complete Iron Man Pep subforum. :p

    There seems to be a million of these threads anymore.

    -Nick
     
  42. fotokid

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    Re: iron man pep question

    Thanks for the pep talk! hah get it?? (terrible) And YES there should be an entire pep section and hopefully everyone will get a little less iron man crazy soon, including me.
     
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  43. Dancin_Fool

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    Re: iron man pep question

    What I like to do is seperate each piece out by page. I build by keeping the pepakura program open and matching up piece by piece and line things up that way. I actually use my cricut as a plotter and cutter so I don't even have numbers when I put pieces together but I find as long as I keep things seperated by page and use the pepakura software as a guide it's easy to get pieces together.
     
  44. punisher

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    whoa that's cool, isn't cricut the printer that cuts?
     
  45. VersionUp

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    Re: iron man pep question

    I think you should be more concerned about what type fold that you have to do for the sections. You just have to make sure you know about the mountain folds and valley folds.

    And now that the Cricut is brought up, I actually thought about that 'cause my sister has 3 different sizes. Dancing Fool if you don't mind can you post up more about how to cut the Pep program it with Cricut?
     
  46. TMP

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    Sounds like the army, when we folded our clothing the right and the wrong way :D
     
  47. Dancin_Fool

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    Re: iron man pep question

    Sure, what you need to do is export as a vector format, and choose emf.

    Then you load up the emf in adobe illustrator or another vector editing package.

    Unfortunately since Pepakura exports it as one big file you have to manually seperate it into the seperate pages.

    Export each of these seperate pages as an SVG file.

    Then you can load up the SVG's in either Make The Cut or Sure Cuts a Lot, they're both software packages for cutting out custom shapes on the Cricut.

    I then do one pass with the pen attachment so I can plot all the lines, and then do a second pass with the cutting blade attached.
     
  48. DaddyfromNaboo

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    Bump to the front.
     
  49. Capn_Jack_Savvy

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    ManFromNaboo! Thanks for the Sticky! It is nice that RPF is now in Pep!:)
     
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