The Iron Patriot Costume - build progress

[TomL]

*EDITED*

Good luck on your project, I hope it turns out the way you want it to.

 

[BRRogers]

I dont get you guys, I have to build the CAGE before I even attempt anything else.

(There's no point in buying any fuel, if you dont even have a car),
(No point in learning to swim, if you live in a Desert),
(No point in owning a lawn-mower, if you dont have a lawn),

GET IT ?

If you guys have tips for the future, I'm all ears, but god... why are we discussing things I'm not even doing right now??

I don't know, why are you discussing it?. The questions came from your posts about what you were planning.

with all due respect to the OP, there's a million and one things you should be doing before you even build the cage. You've skipped right to the execution phase. Not bashing you at all, but trying to save you time, heartache and possibly some expensive hospital bills.

So you know where I'm coming from with regards to the flight portion of your project, I'm giving this advice as someone with a MS degree in Mechanical Engineering & Control Systems, as someone who has built a full-size sailplane out of composites, as someone who has built and flown all types of RC planes and also as a private pilot. I've also worked full-time as a Development Engineer for over 14 years. I have some relevant experience.

This could turn into a very cool project, but you have to set some time aside for education...and part of that would mean to listen to all of the good advice on here.

Good luck on your project, I hope it turns out the way you want it to.

To Iron Patriot's credit: He did *update* one of his posts (#182 in this thread) "re-establishing" his objectives.
-Here: http://www.therpf.com/f24/iron-patriot-suit-build-progress-100234/index8.html#post1446538

Also to the forum's defense: It is easy however; to skip over new information when you update it into a random post from a page earlier and not making a new post where the information can be clearly seen.

 

[TomL]

He said he ran into a snag about running the fuel lines and had worked around it...he did not say that he had given up on the flight objective. His subsequent post #192 confirms that.

 

[thorssoli]

Such imagination! Kudos to you for trying to make this happen.

I'd be keenly interested in more pictures or videos of the "many projects like this" that you've completed before. So would DARPA.

Does the truck fly too?

 

[Mullreel]

I think the mythbusters should try this

They can prove the possibility in one hour

 

[Kithunter]

1st off i salute your enthusiasm, never ever let someone tell you you can't do something.

you might want to consider the following......

please do...... before you rip a whole in the time space continuum....best of luck on your project. i'm sure you'll have some success


AM

 

[anakin]

Not that I give full value to wired.... but......

Iron Man's Suit Defies Physics -- Mostly

Can't wait to see more of your build progression.

 

[Contec]

I'm guessing people forgetting that "Rockets" don't land, they CRASH. Even if they have a parachute, they only crash a little slower...

 

[madcat]

this is one possiblity what will happen same concept.

YouTube - Airbag prank gone horribly wrong

 

[IronPatriot]

* HELP *

Hey, if anyone knows of any sites out there that have reference pics, including (ESPECIALLY) the cage like I'm building, can you guys send me the links to those?

I've looked everywhere, but have only found a few pics of the cage. Mabey some 3D models out there, like on TURBOSQUID that people are selling?

- Does anyone have a FULL 3D model of the suits they used in the Animated sequences in the movies? (mabey send me some pics) - you know, cuz at
the end on Ironman 1, in the credits, they had the 3D model, and disected it to show it's inner-workings. THAT STUFF will really help in this project.

If not, I'll just keep WINGING-IT...

 

[mccordia]

Building an advanced flying machine, in a piece of metal armour straight from a knights tale..

Come one..he can do it
While people argue about the flying capabilities, I wonder if he can even make it up one flight of stairs

 

[mez7]

the end on Ironman 1, in the credits, they had the 3D model, and disected it to show it's inner-workings. THAT STUFF will really help in this project.

If not, I'll just keep WINGING-IT...

you know that all that was cgi, and not actually done... right?....so the inner workings would mean nothing to your project...

right?

keep winging it

 

[Starx]

there's a pep file that has the full undersuit of the suit. I think I habe a copy of it still. Let me know if you are interested. I agree with the above though. It's doesn't really serve a point to the suit since it won't really help with the flight part but that's up to you. I am glad to see an iron man being built out of metal. Just don't hurt yourself with the flight part. A friend of mine is in aeronautics. Maybe he can lend some helpful tips. But for fuel I would suggest rocket fuel instead of unleaded. It'll combust a lot better. But it's a little more pricy. Either way good luck on the build.

 

[IronPatriot]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE YES YES YES.....

Any reference pics, or models, or Pep files, or anything will greatly help in building this suit. The more pics and stuff I can get ahold of, the higher the probability of success.

SO EVERYONE PLEASE PITCH IN

 

[jedibugs]

Hey guys...
This kid has big dreams and, yeah, they may not seem probable, but he's not an IDIOT. As he gets further along on the process, he's going to be able to tell if his propulsion systems are going to be feasible or if they're going to kill him outright. I'm sure we can safely assume that some modicum of testing will occur prior to strapping on a backpack of high-octane fuel and hitting the red button. (IronPatriot, please back me up here, people are nervous).
If his ideas aren't going to work, they won't work and he'll have learned a lesson. There's no reason to discourage him from trying (safely) just because no one else has figured it out. Because, you never know... he might be some sort of amazing high-functioning savant who's going to earn a living flying his Iron Patriot suit into football stadiums to the roaring approval of the crowds.
I think the Wright Brothers analogies are a bit heavy-handed, but lets do our best to encourage people to try things that seem impossible, because that's the only way to make the impossible possible.

Iron Patriot, please just assure everyone in the thread that you will take due caution when you get further along, k?

 

[Cosmic Ash]

comicvine.com has images and panel scans...search Norman Osborn

 

[madcat]

Hey guys...
This kid has big dreams and, yeah, they may not seem probable, but he's not an IDIOT. As he gets further along on the process, he's going to be able to tell if his propulsion systems are going to be feasible or if they're going to kill him outright. I'm sure we can safely assume that some modicum of testing will occur prior to strapping on a backpack of high-octane fuel and hitting the red button. (IronPatriot, please back me up here, people are nervous).
If his ideas aren't going to work, they won't work and he'll have learned a lesson. There's no reason to discourage him from trying (safely) just because no one else has figured it out. Because, you never know... he might be some sort of amazing high-functioning savant who's going to earn a living flying his Iron Patriot suit into football stadiums to the roaring approval of the crowds.
I think the Wright Brothers analogies are a bit heavy-handed, but lets do our best to encourage people to try things that seem impossible, because that's the only way to make the impossible possible.

Iron Patriot, please just assure everyone in the thread that you will take due caution when you get further along, k?

Specifications: Iron Man Armored, Flying Suit, Mark VI
Designer: Anthony Stark
Major Contractor: Avenger, West Coast
Armor exterior Dimensions:
Height (overall): 78 in.
Width (overall): 34 in.
Width (short axis): 21 in.
Weight: 240 lbs.
Armor composition:
Surface/primary Layer: Molecularly aligned crystallized iron over a base of titanium nitride. Metallized paint is precise thickness to destructively interfere with RADAR band microwaves.
Secondary Layer: Comprised of various thermoelectric generators, temperature insulators and regulators.
Tertiary Layer: Consists of two independent, 'crimped' armature electric motors that are aligned at right angles to each other, which can simulate human musculature movement.
Special Features: Each layer possesses integrated communication, power-handling and control circuitry - with regions, which contain certain large area specializations, such as the simulation of a specific muscle.
Note: Suit's microscopic scale chain mail is made rigid by numerous computer-controlled magnetic beam generators. These generators can sense and amplify the suit wearer's motions and strength. Discrete networks of them are arranged, in conjunction with the full-body system of DC motors, to mimic the function of human musculature.
Armor Articulation Motivation:
Musculature enhancement: Amplifies wearer's strength about 90 times.
Limits: DC electric motors allow for severe overloading with a theoretical limit of 1,000% for .0085 seconds.
Power Supply:
Type: High-density storage battery, AC/DC electricity.
Primary: Cryogenic flat batteries.
Secondary: Solar power converters, regrouped in microscopic ridges for improved collection efficiency, arrayed on shoulders and headpiece.
Tertiary (back-up): Increased efficiency of conversion of electric field potentials into usable electricity. Mark VI two orders of magnitude more efficient than Mark V.
Armor System Controls:
Type: Automatic, computerized, body motion following.
Sub-Systems: Local networks of muscle groups and high-density computers, which control large scale movements such as walking.
Special Features: Armor is comprised of finely tessellated mail, which can minimize sudden compressions, such as a blow, by racially dissipating the energy throughout the suit.
Note: There are numerous spoken and cybernetically interpreted commands, supplemented by a limited, experimental self-motivating programming
Articulation Seals/reinforcement: All magnetic. Due to microscopic construction, seal topology allows a 4.5-inch diameter wrist cuff (for example) to have a practical circumference of 12 inches. This allows for a greater area over which a magnetic seal can be affected.
Life Support:
Range: High altitude to deep water: 130,000 feet above to 1,800 feet below sea level.
Air Supply Duration: 2.5 hours
Pressure: Normal atmosphere (14.7 pounds per square inch) maintained internally over a wide range of external pressures.
Temperature: 73° Fahrenheit internal, over -185° F to 2,500° F external. .85°-140° internal, over 2,500°-15,000° F. external.
Environment Design Program:
Type: Full spectrum chemical, biological, nuclear environment
Range: Two months on filtered external air
Exposure: Low-level radiation over 2 month period; suit can tolerate short periods of high radiation by stepping up magnetic beam generator's activity
Propulsion Systems:
Type: Entire armor generates anti-gravity force field, turbine in boots and backpack provide thrust.
Maximum Speed: Mach 1.2 (960 mph)
Life Capacity: Normal flight configuration 3,200 lbs. High thrust: 5,300 lbs.
Range: N.F.C., About 2,000 mile (100 % load), 3,900 miles (50% load). H.T.: About 800 miles (100% load), 1,000 miles (50% load), about 7,500 miles (unloaded, ballistic flight)
Fuel: Ambient air supplemented, on demand, by Stark formula J9 jet fuel.
Weapon Sub-Systems:
Offensive:
Primary: Repulsor Rays
Description: Pulsed, laser-path guided, medium-density plasma projectors.
Range: 40 feet
Limits: The suit palm blasters are able to fire for very short periods of time. The duty cycle allows for a 25% cooling period.
Secondary: Disruptor Beam
Description: Wide spectrum electromagnetic and gravitic beam which are swept and pulsed within certain frequency ranges in order to disrupt as many functions of as many types of electromechanical devices as possible
Range: About 25 to 100 feet
Limits: Little effect on shielded devices.
Note: Some effect on living things possible through low frequency gravitic pulsing which can upset equilibrium, thalamic rate, nervous system and cardiovascular system, depending on range.

 

[Amish Trooper]

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[IronPatriot]

@ Sleeping Lionheart;

- I didnt find anything @ Comic Vine...

 

[halopepakura]

* HELP *

Hey, if anyone knows of any sites out there that have reference pics, including (ESPECIALLY) the cage like I'm building, can you guys send me the links to those?

I've looked everywhere, but have only found a few pics of the cage. Mabey some 3D models out there, like on TURBOSQUID that people are selling?

- Does anyone have a FULL 3D model of the suits they used in the Animated sequences in the movies? (mabey send me some pics) - you know, cuz at
the end on Ironman 1, in the credits, they had the 3D model, and disected it to show it's inner-workings. THAT STUFF will really help in this project.


If not, I'll just keep WINGING-IT...

go to Danny Yount
and click work then click iron man,it will bring up some pics and the video also this is the guy who did the ending animation for the movie
also heres a pic of the torso and legs

hope it helps