The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford - BORING

I thought The Proposition was excellent. The soundtrack was great. One sense you get from that film, it was bloody hot and there were a god awful amount of flies.
One thing all these type westerns have in common is they're not as clean cut as a normal western. You get a sense of desperate people, in desperate situations, in a desperate and unforgiving landscape. There are no straight forward heros and no out and out villains. They're all the more truthful and resounding because of it.
 
not so, nailed it. in realife the old west was not as clear cut as hollywood would have you believe.


example, deadwood had wyatt and morgn earp on for an eps. or 2 and they were low life thugs that happened to do law enforcement too. the most accurate description of the earps if there ever was one.


i did not like jesse james the first time , but it grew on me , the same thing with wyatt earp. now i like wyatt earp over tombstone. 3:10 and appaloosa are the best westerns i have seen since unfogiven. the new true grit was ok. i am not a big fan of john wanye.

i am in clint eastwood camp.
 
The Proposition is an awesome flick, but it kind of bugs me the way they styled it. They definitely made it "American", and the fact that it takes place in Australia seems like an afterthought. In real life, in that time period, the two countries were very different in the way they tackled the "frontier" attitude. I do NOT think that Australia had the same "gun culture" that America did, for starters.

I have only seen half of the movie though, so my view may be skewed.
 
not so, nailed it. in realife the old west was not as clear cut as hollywood would have you believe.


... 3:10 and appaloosa are the best westerns i have seen since unfogiven.

straight up!

As far as film this thread is about, I got a little bored a few times but I thought it was very well done. I loved the cinematography.
 
ONCE UPONd A TIME IN THE WEST

The best western ever. EVER. Sergio Leone's ultimate spagetti
western. Audiences were shocked and dismayd when HENRY
friggin FONDA turned up as the villain. A western opera where
the arias are glared not sung. I never liked Chales Bronson
until I saw him play the true man with no name. Best final
duel ever. Epilogue with Jason Robards had to be cut out for
American audiences of that time.
Don't Trust Outlander? How about John friggin Carpenter?
The other Leone films are like the A Team television series
compared to this.

The opening credits alone are a master piece with only the
sounds of the environment for music.
 
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The Assassination of Jesse James is brutally awesome.

Probably rounds out my top 5 of great Westerns of the last 20 years or so...

Tombstone
Unforgiven
The Proposition
True Grit (2010)

Edited to add: I'm not counting the brilliant Deadwood because that's TV.
 
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ONCE UPONd A TIME IN THE WEST

The best western ever. EVER. Sergio Leone's ultimate spagetti
western. Audiences were shocked and dismayd when PETER
friggin FONDA turned up as the villain. A western opera where
the arias are glared not sung. I never liked Chales Bronson
until I saw him play the true man with no name. Best final
duel ever. Epilogue with Jason Robards had to be cut out for
American audiences of that time.
Don't Trust Outlander? How about John friggin Carpenter?
The other Leone films are like the A Team television series
compared to this.

The opening credits alone are a master piece with only the
sounds of the environment for music.

I don't disagree.
I enjoy watching "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" more but I toss in "Once Upon a Time in the West" fairly often as well.
 
Sorry, fellows. It was HENRY Fonda - famous as Mr. Lincoln -
and not the rather less impressive PETER.

Riskbreaker: I like your list of 5, although I would exchange
3:10 Yuma for Assassination of Jesse James.

The PROP. was great. Another really good Australian western
is the surprisingly enjoyable QUIGLY DOWN UNDER. Magnum
PI the rifleman versus Hans Gruber the quick draw artist.
Who would'a thunk it? Can I get a Yippee ki yay, mthrfck?

That list of five is good for the last 20 years, I still revere
ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST which I believe was from
1968. Did you know this was selected by the National Film
Archives to be enshrined in the Library of Congress?

I'd also like to give a shoutout to THE SHOOTIST.
Nobody matches the Duke, even when he's an old man
dying of cancer. John Wayne in his last film role. And look
at that cast. Jimmy Stewart? Richard Boone? John Carradine?
Er,
 
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Er, when I said an old man dying of cancer, I meant the
character of J.B. Books, not John Wayne the actor; who was
uh....
 
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