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I'm telling ya! One of our machinists already had this in the works a while ago and it's one of the three I mentioned above.
More than likely, someone will have to draw up plans first and then present it to one of our "resident machinists". I'm fairly sure Russrep or someone would consider it if we presented some ready-to-go blueprints.
There just isn't that much interest in Firefly stuff right now to prompt a strong initiative.
Yes, Lemarchand started doing solid models in Rhino for them. Castings were going to be made in resin and offered but that was almost a year and a half ago. I'm guessing lack of major interest stalled the project.
In the time since I offered to draw up plans I've gotten 2-3 PMs showing interest in parts. If I were to roughly ballpark a cost I think we're looking at anywhere between $300-500 a set in metal unless we get at least 10-20 people on board. Again, that's me guessing at a cost based upon past experiences. It also depends on exactly which parts we want machined- just the parts that look like aluminum in the photos or all the addon parts? If we wanted to go all-out, we could have the handle cast in aluminum just like the screen-used but that would certainly add a huge chunk to the cost. How much is this really worth to people?
I'm still willing to try and find some time to draw up plans, but I need to balance it out with the other stuff I'm currently building.
Well as the thread title says, I'm really looking for Templates to just make my own parts for (probably) plastic. And 3-5 hundred, is WAY out of my own price range. (though "more power to" those that can afford it.)
Personally, i think if a run happened I would hope that there would be options for those ordering. Like, all metal kits, part metal part plastic kits (plastic for those parts that get painted). All Plastic kits, and/or the choice to order less then a full kit. (i.e. if you only need the front parts, then you could order only the front parts) Though, wall I have seen runs like that over the years, it's not the norm, and if it does happen, I would guess, that it will only be the very high priced option.
I wish I had, had the parts, and started this thread back when there were a ton of firefly fans on here. Then we would have stood a better chance of druming up the numbers we might need to make a run happen.
Personally, i think if a run happened I would hope that there would be options for those ordering. Like, all metal kits, part metal part plastic kits (plastic for those parts that get painted). All Plastic kits, and/or the choice to order less then a full kit. (i.e. if you only need the front parts, then you could order only the front parts) Though, wall I have seen runs like that over the years, it's not the norm, and if it does happen, I would guess, that it will only be the very high priced option.
I wish I had, had the parts, and started this thread back when there were a ton of firefly fans on here. Then we would have stood a better chance of druming up the numbers we might need to make a run happen.
It is indeed a lot of money for a few parts but I'm just being realistic because I've been through this before several times. Having parts machined in small quantities is costly.
LeMarchand
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Just a quick note to let you all know i haven't canned the project.
My focus has been on the constantine lighters and GE devices. Since both projects are almost finished i can spent more time on my other projects again, like the lasseter.
I have been modifying the flashlight and the grip already and will continue with the 3D models once the finished 3D models have been machined.
I am hoping i will be able to buy my own cnc mill soon, which will make project like this not only easier, but also more affordable (seriously, anyone who thinks an all metal parts lasseter can be done for around $100 by outsourcing it, should try it).
My aim will be a good quality resin kit with loads of seperate parts. If i have my own cnc capabilties probably with metal upgrades. But like i said, cnc-ed parts aren't cheap.
My focus has been on the constantine lighters and GE devices. Since both projects are almost finished i can spent more time on my other projects again, like the lasseter.
I have been modifying the flashlight and the grip already and will continue with the 3D models once the finished 3D models have been machined.
I am hoping i will be able to buy my own cnc mill soon, which will make project like this not only easier, but also more affordable (seriously, anyone who thinks an all metal parts lasseter can be done for around $100 by outsourcing it, should try it).
My aim will be a good quality resin kit with loads of seperate parts. If i have my own cnc capabilties probably with metal upgrades. But like i said, cnc-ed parts aren't cheap.
Oh, I know. it may say I've only been here since 2003, but I've been at this for at least 10 years now, and I know what your talking about.
I also have managed to find, buy, or make Every prop I have worked on for under $150. And I have a lot of props. (A lot of props that others paid over $400. for ) Most folks around here can afford the hobby, as is, I can't come close to affording most of the stuff around here, so I find another way. Make friends with the right people. Make trades. Be pationent for someone to get board with there toy, and buy it second hand on the cheep. (today's $400. props, is to marrows $100. paperweight, that some one is looking to get out of their way, to make a quick buck. ) it's always to buy a kit, then a finished item. (plus again, there are folks on here, that buy more kit's then they can finish, and when that sets in, they sell off the ones they will never get to, cheep. ) Resin is cheeper then metal. And doing it yourself, is usually cheeper then any of the above. (and you learn a lot in the making of it.)
Props don't have to be expensive at all, people just choose to price them that way, because there are people that will pay a lot for them. It's what the "market will bare". (for now, though in this economy, I see prices going up, and less folks willing, or able, to pay for them.)
That's why Nicksdad is one of my favorite machines on here. What ever he takes on, is done very well, and as affordable as he can do it for. I mean, yeah, there are runs that he has done that I could not afford, but I don't blame him for that. I would have LOVED to get one of his PPGs, but it was out of my range, and I just picked up a very, very, nice resin one to fill that spot in my collection.
If this run happens, that's great, if I can afford it I'll buy a set. If I can't afford it, I'll still be happy. Happy because other fans (with money to burn) will get a great kit. And happy for me, because, I'm sure it will yield great pics, of the parts. (both in the for sale thread, and in peoples build threads) For me to make my own parts on the cheep at home. (after all, all I was looking for were templates. ) And in a few years, I might get the chance to pick up either that same kit, or even a finished prop, using the those parts, when some one decides, to get out of the hobby, and sells it on the cheep.
So in short, some one please do this run, at any price. I wont buy buying a set, unless it's under $150. But I really hope this happens for those that can.
I also have managed to find, buy, or make Every prop I have worked on for under $150. And I have a lot of props. (A lot of props that others paid over $400. for ) Most folks around here can afford the hobby, as is, I can't come close to affording most of the stuff around here, so I find another way. Make friends with the right people. Make trades. Be pationent for someone to get board with there toy, and buy it second hand on the cheep. (today's $400. props, is to marrows $100. paperweight, that some one is looking to get out of their way, to make a quick buck.
) it's always to buy a kit, then a finished item. (plus again, there are folks on here, that buy more kit's then they can finish, and when that sets in, they sell off the ones they will never get to, cheep. ) Resin is cheeper then metal. And doing it yourself, is usually cheeper then any of the above. (and you learn a lot in the making of it.) Props don't have to be expensive at all, people just choose to price them that way, because there are people that will pay a lot for them. It's what the "market will bare". (for now, though in this economy, I see prices going up, and less folks willing, or able, to pay for them.)
That's why Nicksdad is one of my favorite machines on here. What ever he takes on, is done very well, and as affordable as he can do it for. I mean, yeah, there are runs that he has done that I could not afford, but I don't blame him for that. I would have LOVED to get one of his PPGs, but it was out of my range, and I just picked up a very, very, nice resin one to fill that spot in my collection.
If this run happens, that's great, if I can afford it I'll buy a set. If I can't afford it, I'll still be happy. Happy because other fans (with money to burn
) will get a great kit. And happy for me, because, I'm sure it will yield great pics, of the parts. (both in the for sale thread, and in peoples build threads) For me to make my own parts on the cheep at home. (after all, all I was looking for were templates. ) And in a few years, I might get the chance to pick up either that same kit, or even a finished prop, using the those parts, when some one decides, to get out of the hobby, and sells it on the cheep. So in short, some one please do this run, at any price. I wont buy buying a set, unless it's under $150. But I really hope this happens for those that can.
If I end up doing any they will either be as an all-machined run or a one-off out of aluminum sheet and styrene.
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Robot Monster
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I have the grip. Still looking around for the flashlight part myself.
Robot Monster
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Just scored the flashlight.:thumbsup
LeMarchand
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And i am almost done with cleanup and mods on the flashlight and gungrip., more work that i had thought it would be
Well, it's been a wile. Anyone come up with any Templates? I keep trying, but mine keep coming out looking awful.
I was thinking, now that every is posting stuff one shapeways (or what ever it's called) if someone did come up with good 3D renderings of the parts, and posted them up there, we all could get the parts, fairly cheep, and easy, and you would be able to get the parts, in a verity of materials. I have no idea how to do 3D renderings or I would do it myself.
Would someone Please consider doing this? (I know there are some folks that know how..... some of them are right here in this thread. )
Um, Pretty Please.
I was thinking, now that every is posting stuff one shapeways (or what ever it's called) if someone did come up with good 3D renderings of the parts, and posted them up there, we all could get the parts, fairly cheep, and easy, and you would be able to get the parts, in a verity of materials. I have no idea how to do 3D renderings or I would do it myself.
Would someone Please consider doing this? (I know there are some folks that know how..... some of them are right here in this thread.
)Um, Pretty Please.
I just scored another couple of flashlights, hoping to finally get stuck into this one soon, rather than just keep buying and selling the parts :lol
I don't do 3D modelling, can't get my head around it, I will be getting as much done as possible in 2d and lasercut.
As Marc pointed out, there is a lot of prep on the gun and grip before even worrying about the add-on parts.
I don't do 3D modelling, can't get my head around it, I will be getting as much done as possible in 2d and lasercut.
As Marc pointed out, there is a lot of prep on the gun and grip before even worrying about the add-on parts.
Well, I've got a lot done on my flashlight, and grip, months, and months, ago, and now it's just seting there waiting to get all dressed up, with it's other, much needed parts.
Buyt I feel a little better knowing your working on something. (at least for yourself) You always do great work.
So what bits parts are you specifically looking for?
The biggest pain imho is building up the grip so it fits to the flashlight and the scope thingy, which reallly needs to be machined for any sort of accuracy, due to the little vents in the side.
When I made my first one, all I had was screencaps, and a lot of detail like that wasn't visible.
The biggest pain imho is building up the grip so it fits to the flashlight and the scope thingy, which reallly needs to be machined for any sort of accuracy, due to the little vents in the side.
When I made my first one, all I had was screencaps, and a lot of detail like that wasn't visible.
Well, I mean the grip on the real prop was a cast metal replica of the toy gun grip. Mine is just plastic, but I didn't find it all that hard to build it up to fight the flashlight. (though I am waiting until after I have the rest of the parts, to permanently Attach the grip)
Other then the Flashlight, and the grip, I pretty much need everything else. I've tried to make templates for the side, and front parts, to cut them out of plastic, or metal. But nothing I have come up with is anywhere close, and even if I did come up with a 2D template, I would have to do it by hand, as I don't have any fancy equipment, or access to any. (or access to anyone that could do it locally for me.) Plus even if I could do the side parts, I could never do the scope by hand. (not with my lack of tools and bad eye sight anyway's.)
So I need the frount pits, the side bit, top bits, and pretty much everything else that's not the flash light itself, and the grip. :lol
Other then the Flashlight, and the grip, I pretty much need everything else. I've tried to make templates for the side, and front parts, to cut them out of plastic, or metal. But nothing I have come up with is anywhere close, and even if I did come up with a 2D template, I would have to do it by hand, as I don't have any fancy equipment, or access to any. (or access to anyone that could do it locally for me.) Plus even if I could do the side parts, I could never do the scope by hand. (not with my lack of tools and bad eye sight anyway's.)
So I need the frount pits, the side bit, top bits, and pretty much everything else that's not the flash light itself, and the grip. :lol
The buttons on the back (screen) are found parts, check out the Lasseter thread on the Firefly props site for details. I think the clear rods at the front are acrylic rod you can pick up on Ebay.
AFAIK the rest of the parts are custom. The side details I'll get laser cut from acrylic sheet, the rest will have to be scratch-built. At the moment I'm planning on doing two complete guns, one to keep, and one to sell. I lucked into two of the ready-lites: at $20 a pop, it would have been churlish not to pick up both :lol
I should have the flashlights in a week or two, but I'm going to have to pick up another Galactronic gun for the grip. I'll build that up, then make a resin cast of the extended grip.
I doubt I'll be getting to work on this till October/Nov earliest. I bought one of the Burgess laser kits, which has inspired me to finally get this done, then I think I'm done with Firefly props :angel
AFAIK the rest of the parts are custom. The side details I'll get laser cut from acrylic sheet, the rest will have to be scratch-built. At the moment I'm planning on doing two complete guns, one to keep, and one to sell. I lucked into two of the ready-lites: at $20 a pop, it would have been churlish not to pick up both :lol
I should have the flashlights in a week or two, but I'm going to have to pick up another Galactronic gun for the grip. I'll build that up, then make a resin cast of the extended grip.
I doubt I'll be getting to work on this till October/Nov earliest. I bought one of the Burgess laser kits, which has inspired me to finally get this done, then I think I'm done with Firefly props :angel
I can and will be doing mine via Shapeways soon(ish). Not sure if they will end up being cheap or not though... I'm counting on at LEAST 200-300 for printing all the necessary parts in the material that I want, but then they will turn out pretty spiffy and to exact specs.
Yeah, that soulds really cool, but out of my price range. But then again if the parts are offered in a range of materials. I mean, I don't really care too much about what the parts are made of (metal, Acrylic, ABS, Resin, Styrene), or how there made (3D printed, laser cut, CNCed, etc. etc. etc.) I just want it to look pretty, when it's done, and setting on my shelf, and it would be nice to not have to take out a lone to get-r-done.
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