SyFy's "Collection Intervention"

[pennausamike]

I think the Collection Intervention team needs to go to Jay Leno's place and tell him he has too many cars.
He needs to get rid of the recent stuff and only concentrate on antiques....

Mike
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[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I think the Collection Intervention team needs to go to Jay Leno's place and tell him he has too many cars.
He needs to get rid of the recent stuff and only concentrate on antiques....

Great example! :lol


The dumbest part of this is that they are dooming themselves to one season by how they handled the whole thing. If this info goes around all the collecting sites, who's going to want to be on their show?

 

[Qrest Fourstar]

I think the Collection Intervention team needs to go to Jay Leno's place and tell him he has too many cars.
He needs to get rid of the recent stuff and only concentrate on antiques....

Mike

lol:lol

 

[sdmicp]

I think the Collection Intervention team needs to go to Jay Leno's place and tell him he has too many cars.
He needs to get rid of the recent stuff and only concentrate on antiques....

Mike
My Firefly/Serenity Collection:
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thumbsuplol

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I think the Collection Intervention team needs to go to Jay Leno's place and tell him he has too many cars.
He needs to get rid of the recent stuff and only concentrate on antiques....

Amen! People like her don't understand that we're not collecting this stuff because we think we'll retire on it. WE LIKE IT!

 

[Mr Webber]

You guys should all be TV producers, you seem to know the industry back to front.
Seriously though, isnt at least tolerable to you that theres a show on TV that even vaguely releates to our shared hobby? No?
Give the thing a chance to at least get its feet, as there have been diddly squat shows in the past to cover the topic they may have to adapt the product in time. If theres something on that I dont like, I dont keep going back to it. Theres a little something in that for all of us.

 

[niennumb1]

I would definitely be opening a case against this show. This was not at all what you guys signed up for and that's just sick.

The funny thing is I'll bet Joe had an easy solution if things were really getting out of hand in the apartment... a moderate-sized climate-controlled storage place where it could all be archived. Problem solved.

It definitely sounded like the fiance' was supportive of the collection and what it meant to Joe, so after reading this thread this all makes much more sense.

Editing is an evil tool, when wielded by the wrong people. I've been doing video editing for 14 years now, and it's so easy to twist other people's words and ruin the integrity of what someone said simply using clever cutaway editing and splicing of dialogue bits.

This is a pretty sickening show knowing what I do now.

 

[pennausamike]

SNIP
Seriously though, isnt at least tolerable to you that theres a show on TV
that even vaguely releates to our shared hobby? No?

When this was called Master Collector, I had hopes it would be interesting.
Now, it is just a different take on "Hoarders".
And worst of all, it makes some legitimate collectors look like hoarders
through falsehood and manipulation.
Collection Intervention gives collectors "attention" by demeaning them.

Give the thing a chance to at least get its feet,
as there have been diddly squat shows in the past to cover the topic
they may have to adapt the product in time.
SNIP

I doubt that they will because the hoarders mentality is so strongly evident.
And that is a shame, because the show COULD be useful and entertaining
by showcasing positive and negative approaches to collecting.
In Joe's episode,
the producers should have highlighted the positive aspects of his comic collection,
and still been able to put the Transformers guy on the path to selling his "inventory"
while improving his "collection".
Sorry for quoting myself, but,
I think it would be cooler if they featured one "bad" collector and one "how-it-should-be-done" collector
each episode.
The host mentioned several times about how to acquire, store and display collections
for best artistic, monetary and satisfaction value;
but didn't actually offer any examples of how to do that.

They should also spend more time on how to sell a collection to reap maximum value.
But that would take time and actually caring about the subjects of your show;
two things that run counter to the rushed, ratings oriented world of Reality TV.

Mike
My Firefly/Serenity Collection:
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[Mr Webber]

The bottom line is that this isnt a show about how to value, display, acquire, sell your collection, the premise is that someone the collector knows contacts the TV show to "help" with whatever the issue is and two collectors are showcased in forty seven minutes. Your ideas are good but they are for another show entirely. It, Collection Intervention, has a solid formula, just not the one everyone wants to see.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

You guys should all be TV producers, you seem to know the industry back to front.
Seriously though, isnt at least tolerable to you that theres a show on TV that even vaguely releates to our shared hobby? No?
Give the thing a chance to at least get its feet, as there have been diddly squat shows in the past to cover the topic they may have to adapt the product in time. If theres something on that I dont like, I dont keep going back to it. Theres a little something in that for all of us.

As a matter of fact, although I don't do it now I have produced a few TV programs and yes, here in Canada at least there have been programs about "master collectors" that highlight collections. That's not to say I'm an expert but I do know how this business works.

This show is about putting people who collect down and making them look like hoarders who have no control. No, I CERTAINLY don't support that.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

The premise is that someone the collector knows contacts the TV show to "help" with whatever the issue is and two collectors are showcased in forty seven minutes.

You really need to read this thread further. Someone who knows the collector DID NOT contact the show. If that was the case we wouldn't have a problem.

They solicited collectors who are proud of their collections so contact them for a program advertised to show off master collectors. Then they pulled the bait & switch and show up telling them it's out of control and they should sell.

It's entirely unethical.

 

[robstyle]

Hoarders is awesome. There is one in every neighborhood and my grandpa was one. He used to collect tires and had stacks of them in the backyard. As a kid we would try and run across the stacks and see who could get the farthest without falling inside. They need an episode to focus more on the fun of hoarding than the TV drama and mental cases. Maybe next season on this show they can have some dick host randomly grab mint in package toys and open them, cat fights, no chicken nuggets and maybe a drunk thief trying to break into a liqueur store at 3am to steal cigarettes when the show finds a new home on TrueTV.

 

[sdmicp]

You guys should all be TV producers, you seem to know the industry back to front.
Seriously though, isnt at least tolerable to you that theres a show on TV that even vaguely releates to our shared hobby? No?
Give the thing a chance to at least get its feet, as there have been diddly squat shows in the past to cover the topic they may have to adapt the product in time. If theres something on that I dont like, I dont keep going back to it. Theres a little something in that for all of us.

There is another collecting program here on cable. Its called Toy Hunters. While it may appear staged in parts, at least it shows collectors in a positive light. He also appears upfront and honest about his intentions. I'm no TV producer but I do understand that the old "bait and switch" isn't very cool. :thumbsdown

 

[Mr Webber]

You really need to read this thread further. Someone who knows the collector DID NOT contact the show. If that was the case we wouldn't have a problem.

They solicited collectors who are proud of their collections so contact them for a program advertised to show off master collectors. Then they pulled the bait & switch and show up telling them it's out of control and they should sell.

It's entirely unethical.

And you need to get over yourself, choosing this program to be the moral compass for television is a joke and as far as the bait and switch, its only recently that forums such as this and social media have made this an issue for production companies, in the past it just never got out that it happened. The last twenty two years in the game tells me that whatever your favorite show is, someone got boned somewhere down the line on its production.

To my eyes, none of the people featured on the show has been made to look anything other than themselves or have been demeaned in anyway, sympathised with them all and Joe was a blast. Shocked, sickened, outraged, disgraceful, etc etc etc, is there a section for exploiting childrens collections that im not seeing on the show?

 

[Michael Bergeron]

And you need to get over yourself, choosing this program to be the moral compass for television is a joke and as far as the bait and switch, its only recently that forums such as this and social media have made this an issue for production companies, in the past it just never got out that it happened. The last twenty two years in the game tells me that whatever your favorite show is, someone got boned somewhere down the line on its production.

I never said any of that. I was merely correcting you when you said:

the premise is that someone the collector knows contacts the TV show to "help" with whatever the issue is and two collectors are showcased in forty seven minutes.

It most certainly is not. The show doesn't look for people who have a problem with a collector they know, they find a collector and CREATE a problem.

Is there a lot of this kind of crap on TV? Hell yes and there always has been, I never said otherwise. That doesn't make it right. It's one of the HUGE problems with reality television.

I produced a marriage counseling program here in Toronto a few years back. We advertised for couples who were having problems. We DID NOT advertise for just any old married couple and then start asking what they hated about each other.

 

[Mr Webber]

At the end of the day its just a TV show and unless Im working on it, I couldnt give a frogs fat arse if its on or not, while it is on, I will watch it and dont really care what motivates others to do the same. Go back and look through the thread yourself, if you want disgraceful, take a look at some of the comments directed toward the Star Wars woman and quote their work.

 

[Eopie Herder]

Wow. :facepalm

 

[the_batdemon]

I know shows have working titles and airing titles, but the second line of the casting form would give me some clue that things are going to change.

I remember MTV was casting at the Pittsburgh Comic Con a few years ago for a "fan dating" show, I told my friend "no way in hell", they edit these shows in ways the participants have no control.

It is insightful to hear after the fact from those who have participated, thanks Joe.

 

[Moviefreak]

Ok, tonight's episode might be the first one that really showcased two collectors that really do need an intervention. Do you guys agree? When the collecting affects your income and ability to live, or affects your relationship.... You really do need help evaluating the situation. It wasn't about the bagged, boarded, organized and alphabatized collection that took up too much space. This was a messy unorganized chaos.

 

[Solo4114]

The bottom line is that this isnt a show about how to value, display, acquire, sell your collection, the premise is that someone the collector knows contacts the TV show to "help" with whatever the issue is and two collectors are showcased in forty seven minutes. Your ideas are good but they are for another show entirely. It, Collection Intervention, has a solid formula, just not the one everyone wants to see.

Did you miss the part about how they actively mislead -- indeed lie -- to people to get them on the show in the first place?

If you saw it, do you just not care?

I mean, good for you that you can watch a show like this and say "Hey, cool collection." Sounds like the premise of the show-as-repackaged isn't working on you, and you're just enjoying viewing folks' collections. Groovy.

But that's not really the point. The point is:

1.) The producers of this show are being actively dishonest while claiming it's "reality" TV. Which is bulls**t.

2.) The producers of the show are, more likely than not, biting the hand that feeds them. I suppose they'll be able to work this scam a little while longer, and there are of course the people who are happy to act like freaks if it gets 'em on TV (just ask Jerry Springer), but how sustainable do you think this will be? Or will they simply, at some point, hire actors, provide the collections, and then just start calling it "improvised TV"?