SW Acolyte in a tail spin
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When the parent company slanders anyone who dislikes their products, the fans respond in kind. Is celebrating the cancelation petty? No doubt about it. But Lucasfilm has acted just as petty and never once took ownership of any decisions they've made all while dragging huge portions of their paying customers through the mud when they disagree.
Rest assured, Acolyte won't disappear and will be available for those who enjoyed it. Even George with all of his resources, couldn't make the holiday special disappear. There's no reason to believe Disney will erase Acolyte. They never back down. They double down. Remember that **** sequel trilogy? That turd still exists. So when they refuse to back down, so do the fans. It sucks because it means everything becomes tribal, but this is the reality we live in. This is how entertainment works now.
Lucasfilm under Disney's ownership absolutely sucks.
Rest assured, Acolyte won't disappear and will be available for those who enjoyed it. Even George with all of his resources, couldn't make the holiday special disappear. There's no reason to believe Disney will erase Acolyte. They never back down. They double down. Remember that **** sequel trilogy? That turd still exists. So when they refuse to back down, so do the fans. It sucks because it means everything becomes tribal, but this is the reality we live in. This is how entertainment works now.
Lucasfilm under Disney's ownership absolutely sucks.
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THIS. You sir, win the Internet for the day.
It's a different paradigm now. With social media, EVERYTHING is scrutinized to the nth degree before a project is even released. It's difficult to keep secrets (although it HAS been done), and leaks are more prevalent/available to the public for pre-release evaluation. So, pre-release opinions are rampant and more readily avilable to consumers. And because of the budgets involved, studios feel obligated to "over-hype" the material, to build up word of mouth before release.
Thnik about it... I saw Return of the Jedi on opening day May 1983. There were action figures in the stores already, and a few magazines with puff pieces about the film, but the big secrets/revelations were STILL secret. Outside of official channels, any knowledge I had of the film was almost accidental. How were those few poeple who located the Sail Barge desert set on the "Blue Harvest" filming supposed to get the word out about what was REALLY going on?
There was NO WAY for me to know:
1) What did test audiences think? (well, there weren't any, but go with me on this...)
2) What Harrison Ford REALLY thinks about Han Solo's role in the film (we had no idea that Ford wanted Han to stay dead in carbonite forever)
3) Why was Prowse sidelined at the end of the film, for another actor to play Anakin?
4) Who was the "other" Yoda spoke about?
5) Yoda dies?! All of a sudden?
6) Luke and Leia... what's that all about?
7) Why is Leia now a pin-up model?
Can you imagine the vitriol from the fans if this had been know months ahead of release?
CB2001
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But, they haven't been completely lost due to fan efforts, namely, the Despecialized Editions. The only efforts of The Acolyte going to be remaining is through pirated DVDs. If anything, The Acolyte will be available in the same way as the Star Wars Holiday Special.
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Let me preface by saying that my interest in Disney Wars has always been purely an academic one. I find it interesting to dissect them critically as well as observe how the audience reacts to them. I have no stake in them succeeding or failing other than I would hope well made movies and shows are praised while poorly made movies and shows are panned. That said...
I was absolutely rooting for this show to fail. The showrunner is a bad faith individual. From the outset, she had disparaging things to say about George Lucas. For someone who claims that Star Wars "saved" her life, you'd think she'd have some gratitude for the man that created it. Regardless, she then went on to make a show that was more a vanity project than a faithful entry into the franchise. Lastly, and something few care to acknowledge, this individual was a personal assistant to the most loathsome exec in the industry. I don't believe for a second she was unaware of what was going on with him and she has yet had to answer for it. Knowing this as well as her questionable resume, Disney still hired her meanwhile lecturing everyone about empowering women. What a crock. We could also talk about the lead actress making a "music" video to antagonize fans. These people are all frauds. They don't care about story or legacy. They care about their own agendas. They deserve only rebuke.
If this is what is to become of Star Wars then yeah, I make no bones about saying I'd rather just see it burn. I'm ecstatic there won't be a second season. Maybe next time Disney will let someone who has good intentions and is qualified to make one of their shows do so. Every time they get political or attack the fans, I'll be there rooting for their failure again.
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The power of One season.... The power of tw..... well crap.
But in reverse, bacause, this time, only George wants a bootleg copy.
robn1
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It's on torrent sites in 4K for anyone who cares, as is Willow.
jkno
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In their opinion, the guilt always belongs to others: the haters, trolls, toxic people, misogynists, hobby dictators, homophobes, snowflakes, Martians, Bigfoot, the farts of the cows, you name it. And this idiotic principle applies in today's social media and goes right into the actual life too, never take responsibility for anything, unless there is something successful.
jkno
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Agreed. This would be just another step into that cancel culture I dislike so much.
That is totally on Disney, if it happens. They are in control of their IP.
I don't welcome any new shows being buried regardless of the quality.
I'm old enough to remember when a lot of existing TV/movies were just unreachable. If something was not on the shelf at the local Blockbuster (which mostly carried theatrical movies), and if none of the 15 decent cable TV channels were showing it on re-runs or a late-night movie . . . that was it. You couldn't get it. It might take 6 years before you got a chance to see it again.
That scarcity situation used to be normal. The studios could revert back to that attitude if they decide there's money in it. Internet piracy makes a difference but I don't want to end up reliant on it.
I'm old enough to remember when a lot of existing TV/movies were just unreachable. If something was not on the shelf at the local Blockbuster (which mostly carried theatrical movies), and if none of the 15 decent cable TV channels were showing it on re-runs or a late-night movie . . . that was it. You couldn't get it. It might take 6 years before you got a chance to see it again.
That scarcity situation used to be normal. The studios could revert back to that attitude if they decide there's money in it. Internet piracy makes a difference but I don't want to end up reliant on it.
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JPH
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But none of this matters.
What matters is that people did not watch the show.
Everything else would easily have been proven valueless if the show had great ratings.
And it was very-well hyped and advertized, so you cant claim it was a hidden gem like Firefly.
It really is that simple.
No reasoning/rationalization can undo the obvious truth that if the show did GREAT, if Acolyte merch waa blowing off the shelves and selling on ebay for twice the list price , there would be a season 2.
What matters is that people did not watch the show.
Everything else would easily have been proven valueless if the show had great ratings.
And it was very-well hyped and advertized, so you cant claim it was a hidden gem like Firefly.
It really is that simple.
No reasoning/rationalization can undo the obvious truth that if the show did GREAT, if Acolyte merch waa blowing off the shelves and selling on ebay for twice the list price , there would be a season 2.
It wouldn't be cancel culture, it would be Disney making a purely business decision. I don't like studios removing access or shelving shows, but it is done for business reasons. Right or wrong, It's all about the Benjamins.
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jkno
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There are quite enough people who like The Acolyte, just let them enjoy the series. This brings me to the old discussion about physical medium/support, where to store your movies, series and music, and not be at the mercy of these companies. I have all SW movies on original licensed DVD's, but these new series I also have on my drives, as they were not released on DVD (yet, and maybe never), I can watch them anytime I want, not that I would watch The Acolyte anytime soon, or ever, LOL, but if I need to watch a scene or something, I have it there, in my grasp.
I'm all for it, if you enjoy it, that's fine with me.
Yes it is the physical media discussion. If you don't own it physically, they can always take it away from you.
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