Stormtrooper Oddities

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by Clutch, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Clutch

    Clutch Master Member

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    While studying Star Wars one frame at a time (don't laugh), I noticed a few things.

    Here are the two troopers that Luke and Han get the jump on. Where did Luke get the 'low brow' helmet then?

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    In one scene, Luke's shoulder bell is gone.

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    Now it's back.

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    What do these backpacks really look like???

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  2. Funky

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    Very interesting points. I never noticed the missing shoulder bell before. A mild hijack here, but while we're on the topic of Trooper odities, I never did understand why the trooper Luke jumps has a rope and grappling hook attatched to the belt but all the other troopers we all know and love don't carry this feature. What makes Luke's trooper so special that he carries this odd piece of equipment?
     
  3. Skaught

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    He's a trooper nerd. It's like a pocket protector for Stormtroopers.

    Another related question - so when they get to Yavin, are there two dead Stormtroopers still stashed away in a storage locker?

    And I must say, for a farmboy Luke certainly takes to killing people like it's just another walk in the park.

    Scott
     
  4. troopermaster

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    Nice screen grabs Clutch.I wish I could do that.

    I watch the trooper scenes in ANH frame by frame all the time :D
     
  5. NEOGELION

    NEOGELION New Member

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    Actually if you look closely at Luke's bicep you can see the shoulder bell hanging down behind him. So much for space age elastic.
     
  6. Clutch

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    Gives a new meaning to "What an incredible smell you've discovered." :lol

    And wouldn't it be four dead? :eek
     
  7. Jack Bauer

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    I think Luke and Han switched helmets when they were changing into thier new stolen armor. hence the low brow.
     
  8. Stormtrooper

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    ....but NEITHER of the 2 troopers at the bottom of the Falcon's ramp is wearing the 'low brow' Hero helmet that Luke is later seen wearing.
    I had noticed this myself before - for all we know the 2 scenes could've been filmed weeks apart so it's probably just a continuity error...

    As for the 2 dead troopers in the Falcon's storage compartments... I always imagined 2 troopers stumbling down the Falcon's ramp about 1/2 an hour later holding their heads (like in the A-team. :lol ) having only been 'roughed-up' by Han & Luke... maybe the blaster firing sounds were from the troopers trying to shoot Han & Luke at point blank range... and, er.... missing?

    After all, Han waited until Greedo shot first, and couldn't possibly kill someone in cold blood etc. etc. :p

    Nice screen-caps BTW... and I thought *I* was the only one who watched the Trilogy frame-by-frame :lol

    Cheers,
    J.B.
     
  9. gonk27

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    Good observations Clutch.

    I think the rubber trim must have just squished down when Luke took the helmet off, that rubber moves pretty easily :D

    Never seen that shoulder thing before. and I watch Star Wars frame by frame too... takes me HOURS. :p


    Jeremy
     
  10. Jango_Fett_Jr

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  11. lambotour

    lambotour Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Well since we are on the subject, how about these (sorry if they've been caught before)

    This trooper's mommy didn't dress him right (to the right of vader)

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    And what about the tape on the arm and I don't know about that number 8 on the rear chestpiece? It may just be the lighting, but if you zoom in it looks like an 8:

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  12. Luke Warmwater

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    Could I trouble someone to get a good screencap of the grappling hook on the trooper's belt. Gonna try to build one. Thanks in advance.
     
  13. Jimbo890

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    I know we all have analyed Lukes belt accessories to death, but the as a kid watching Star Wars on the big screen for the umpteenth time, it was my assumption that ALL troopers have an accessory belt, with all sorts of 'swiss army knife' goodies on it. We just happen to see Luke use one. As for the different doo-hickeys who knows, it was a low budget movie, for crying out loud.
     
  14. troopermaster

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    I think it's pretty obvious that neither of those suit's were used for the hero's.The helmet's are both stunts,and Luke's suit is trimmed shorter on the chest and back.Also,I'm not sure if it's supposed to be Luke who taps his helmet when he comes down the ramp,but he is very tall.
     
  15. CTF

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    Chronicles has some good pics (or could be just a pic) of the Spacetrooper's backpack.
     
  16. Stormtrooper

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    Check out this screencap from the opening sequence of ANH :confused

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    Looks like this trooper has his belt on inside-out, as you can clearly see how the straps of the holster are attached to the belt by either pop-snaps or rivetted in place... normally this is hidden from view between the belt and the lower-back armour...

    I can't wait to see Star Wars on HD-DVD or BluRay or whatever hi-def format wins through. :D

    Cheers,
    J.B.
     
  17. Luke Warmwater

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    I'm sorry I can't get past the giant trooper @$$.
     
  18. lambotour

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    Here's my attempt:

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    Good Luck :)
     
  19. iceman

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  20. lambotour

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    Very nice, Iceman :thumbsup
     
  21. troopermaster

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    I think that '8' would most likely be where 'squibs' were and then patched up/painted.I can't think of any other reason for that kind of mark to be there?
     
  22. Clutch

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    Hah. Never noticed that.
     
  23. Clutch

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    Here are some more.

    The return of Mr. No-Stripes:
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    The infamous, dislocated shoulder bell:
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    This guy is missing the right belt box thingie:
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    Here's a nice one. Notice the strap here...
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  24. KevVader

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    ...those are great Clutch...keep 'em coming.
     
  25. Darth Domain

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    Just out of interest, even my girlfriend pointed out that when the two troopers get called into the falcon and get blasted by Han and Luke, they must have been two darn good shots in between the armour pieces. You'll notice there's no blast points when han/luke have the armour on (just tryin to pay attention to detail).
     
  26. TK8410

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    But did they get blasted by Han and Luke? How do we know for sure that the shots we hear being fired were from Han and Luke...and not from the Stormtroopers firing at them?

    Maybe Han and Luke hit them over the head with something and knocked them out? Or maybe Chewie made them smell his armpits? We don't really know for sure...do we? (That plus the fact that it's just a film, lol)

    Cheers, Gord.
     
  27. Clutch

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    And we know Han would never shoot someone who didn't shoot first. Oh, wait a minute....
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  28. blewis17

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    And where did Han and Luke put their clothes? When they get out of the trash compactor and take off the trooper suits, they are back in their clothes. Were they wearing these UNDER the body suit and trooper armor? Han's vest/BLACK RIDING BOOTS/Luke's Karate shirt/denim pants/and strap boots???...
     
  29. kurtyboy

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    Because a DL44 makes a completely different sound from an E-11 :)

     
  30. TK8410

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    Good point. Never thought about that one before. :lol Nice one.

    Cheers, Gord.
     
  31. TK8410

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    Good point...well presented. (Smart- :booty) j/k ;)

    Cool thread...love this stuff :D

    Cheers, Gord.
     
  32. tuskentrooper

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    Great thread. The trooper on the far right is wearing his Star Wars underoos or something. Maybe it's the garter system?

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  33. NEOGELION

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    Could that holster actually be for the rebel forces? Looking at the pic it looks like the belt is upside down which would make the holster be on the right hip. You would never be able to place the TK blaster in the holster on that side and it would never fit that holster shape. Maybe they needed a holster and the rebel one was the only one available.


     
  34. OldKen

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    And we know Han would never shoot someone who didn't shoot first. Oh, wait a minute....
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    that is a VERY good point.

    wait dont ever mention this again, GL might have to digitally make that scene lame. :lol
     
  35. Clutch

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    that is a VERY good point.

    wait dont ever mention this again, GL might have to digitally make that scene lame. :lol
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    Haha. Too late. He already has. You won't see that flash on his chest in the DVD's that are out now. :lol
     
  36. Nataku

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    I do believe that is a garter. It looks just like the one I wore under my hockey equipment.
     
  37. dirtydave

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    is that te'shelmet next to mister nostripes.
     
  38. Clutch

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  39. Luke Warmwater

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    Chewie was hiding them- don't ask where. :eek:
     
  40. Jack Bauer

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    Is this the Chronicles pic? His hand plates are on the wrong hands.

    And I didn't know that Billy Corgan played a Stormtrooper. :p




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  41. Darth Domain

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    Perhaps someone could put together a stormtrooper based on all of the mistakes seen in pictures on this thread, it would sort of be screen accurate wouldn't it? :lol
     
  42. OldKen

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    umm is that one of the "docking bay troops" with the wierd backpacks?
     
  43. gizmo

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    Yes,but nobody seems to have any good pics of the backpacks they used.

    kind regards
    Ben
     
  44. Coinprop

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    Love this thread.
    To bad I dont know how to take screen grabs. Keep them coming guys.
     
  45. gonk27

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    Here's another little sort of oddity..

    If I can borrow Dirtydave's screengrabs you can see here (crudely circled in red) the trimmed groin section to allow the stunt guy better movement... and safeguard his ability to potentially father children in the future. :p

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    The untrimmed groins are more like this..

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    Jeremy
     
  46. Clutch

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  47. Trallis

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    now you're going to have to prove to me that that picture contributed somehow to this thread
     
  48. Clutch

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    By showing where stormtroopers hid their beer. :eek:
     
  49. Luke Warmwater

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    Stormtroopers "shaving" their codpieces and now this. This thread is going downhill rapidly.
     
  50. lambotour

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    "Wow, you look great."

    "Yeah George, whatever."

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