Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)

[JoeG]

I liked it.
But as said before, how the hell did Maz come to posses Luke's saber? The even asked the question in TFA with a promise of an answer later.

All Maz said was thats a story for another day. Which to me sounded very much like don't worry about it. They never explained how Obi Wan got the saber in ANH either. He just tells Luke that his father wanted him to have it. Which was a lie. We don't find out the story until almost 30 years later.

 

[Jagjaguwar]

Since when has Disney cared about continuity?

Continuity has never been Star Wars’ strong suit, I would say.

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Haven't posted in any SW threads in a while ( except for The Mandalorian of course), but since I have the main ****** from the TLJ threads ignored, I figured it was tolerable to do so...

So I'm wondering if anyone else got this read from the film- It seems that Leia gave her life so that Rey could use her 'lifeforce' to heal Ben from a mortal wound because there was good in him. Maybe she knew he would be needed to defeat Palpatine.

Anyone else thinking that maybe Padme did the EXACT same thing in ROTS?

She'd seen Palpatine ascend to Emperor, thus killing democracy. Anakin told her on Mustafar that he could destroy Palpatine. So now I'm thinking that Padme gave her 'lifeforce' to save Anakin from his mortal wounds because she knew there was still good in him, & he'd be the only chance anyone would have to stop the Emperor.

It never sat well with me that she'd basically abandon her children, just because she had a broken heart, but if it was to save the entire galaxy, it would make much more sense.

Anyone else feel this might be the case?

 

[The Terminator]

The film might be a **** but the music sounds better than the previous two episodes.

 

[HMSwolfe]

The film might be a **** but the music sounds better than the previous two episodes.

What music? All of it was just stuff from the previous eight movies. I didn’t hear a single new thing. Fitting for a movie that didn’t make anything new either…

 

[annanake]

All Maz said was thats a story for another day. Which to me sounded very much like don't worry about it. They never explained how Obi Wan got the saber in ANH either. He just tells Luke that his father wanted him to have it. Which was a lie. We don't find out the story until almost 30 years later.

We see obi-wan pick up the saber after Anakin thought he could defeat the high ground that's how old ben got it .

 

[Captain Dunsel]

It never sat well with me that she'd basically abandon her children, just because she had a broken heart, but if it was to save the entire galaxy, it would make much more sense.

Anyone else feel this might be the case?

The American Medical Association has noted that dying of a Broken Heart is currently the leading cause of death for Americans between the ages of 18 and 35.

The leading causes of death are as follows:

1. Broken heart
2. Heart disease
3. Cancer
4. Iocaine Powder
5. Betting your life on it

 

[annanake]

It was ok , maybe I expected a dumsterfire and when it was a nice clean fireplace burning away my childhood memories I just accepted it better I dont know but it was ok .

It's going in the book officially

It ok in my book !

Also. WHOODEEKNEE !!!

 

[Jagjaguwar]

What music? All of it was just stuff from the previous eight movies. I didn’t hear a single new thing. Fitting for a movie that didn’t make anything new either…

Underlined for emphasis.

Are there themes and leitmotifs that carry over from one film to the next? Of course. But to say that the entire soundtrack is recycled is simply false. It’s available to listen to on Spotify currently, free from any distracting visuals or sound effects.

 

[NeoRutty]

View attachment 1093328Hope no one decided to play this game…you’d die from liver failure…

Only 14ish shots (out of a possible 52ish) in 2 hours 20 mins... How weak is your liver...

1 shot every ten minutes...

My liver eats 14 shots for breakfast.

 

[Brevin Din-Shay]

I absolutely loved it. Was thrilled from beginning to end, nonstop. It had everything "feel-wise" that was lacking from the first 2 movies.

Are there things to overthink? Sure! If you want to go down that path, hell, I'll pave even more braincramps for ya:


Palpatine created Snoke. Snoke was obviously very powerful. Why did he need anyone else, if only two there can be?

Palpatine has a million ships with Death Star capabilities. What is he waiting for?

What is the point of the First Order?

If you can clone a Sith, why not clone a MILLION more?

How is there "balance" in the Force if the Dark side is eliminated?

What is it with these movies that allows matter to be transferred with the Force?

Force ghosts can do everything mortals can do, including using the Force and catching objects. Uhhhh….so, are they dead or what?

Leia was a Jedi after all, I think?

Kylo Ren never was a Sith Lord. He was never a Jedi. He was always in "training" until he killed Snoke, I guess.

What the hell were the Knights of Ren, and what good were they? Why did Kylo stop running his little gang?

If you can use the Force to save people from dying, isn't that a Sith thing? I mean, that's how Palpatine lured Anakin to the Dark....so, why is it ok for Rey, Kylo, and Leia to do that?

If Jedi ghosts can handle objects like Luke did when he caught the Graflex, why can't they fight in real life?

What is the meaning of it all????????







Dudes, it's Star Wars. You have to fill in the blanks with your imagination. That's why it isn't just a movie series, it's something more.

Beyond this movie, I'll be very, very hard-pressed to watch anything new. The Skywalker story ends, the Jedi-Sith battle ends....what the hell is Star Wars then? NOTHING.


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Oh, and btw, that whole LBGTQ kiss at the end was so stupid. It felt forced and well, yeah. I mean, it didn't fit into Star Wars. I am all for equal rights, but that was just a bad way to do it.

 

[Halliwax]

TFA: Han dies
TLJ: Luke dies
TROS: Leia dies

What was the point of bringing them all back just to kill them off one by one?

It just breaks my heart.

Get rid of them and replace them with all new characters to make money.. who cares if these characters are good, or any of it makes sense

We need more action figures!! Because that’s what kids play with today! Yes more action figures, but we need bad guys?

Wait.. thinking up new and guys costs too much.. bring back some old ones!

Yes! Perfect! What’s their story? It doesn’t matter! We won’t even mention it, what ever we got to do to sell more toys that will stay o the shelf’s

 

[Halliwax]

I liked it.
But as said before, how the hell did Maz come to posses Luke's saber? The even asked the question in TFA with a promise of an answer later.

There is a unfinished scene in TFA where the knights and kylo raid a village, the village leader has the Skywalker lightsaber, when kylo kills him it falls to the ground, and maz runs in and steals it and gets away

Lupita explained this scene, there is a picture too floating around

They actually left the Skywalker lightsaber ignition sound in the film

Next time you watch it listen, before kylo ignites his, you can hear the graflex ignite, then kylos and then the village leader screams when kylo stabs him

Wish it was finished and left in the film

That scene changed so many times it’s not even funny..

 

[JoeG]

We see obi-wan pick up the saber after Anakin thought he could defeat the high ground that's how old ben got it .

As I said in the post you quoted, we don't see that until almost 30 years later. Its never explained in ANH or the OT for that matter. Just how its not explained how Maz got it in TFA or the ST.

 

[Halliwax]

Dying to see if the palpatine we see in TRoS is a clone.. or the actual body that fell down the Death Star shaft?

 

[NeoRutty]

oh... makes it a completely different context then when Kylo says, That lightsaber, it belongs to me!, knowing that he was close to it before.

 

[HMSwolfe]

Underlined for emphasis.

Are there themes and leitmotifs that carry over from one film to the next? Of course. But to say that the entire soundtrack is recycled is simply false. It’s available to listen to on Spotify currently, free from any distracting visuals or sound effects.

In Empire Strikes Back, John Williams floored us by adding The Imperial March, The Asteroid Field, Han Solo and the Princess, and Yoda’s theme. In Return of the Jedi, he comes back with the Emperor’s theme. TPM, obviously Duel of the Fates. AOTC, Across the Stars. ROTS, Battle of the Heroes. TFA, Rey’s theme, Kylo’s theme, The Jedi Steps. TLJ, The Spark/The Last Jedi. Nothing wrong with recycled motifs. It’s a franchise and a connected story, that’s to be expected and even encouraged. But just claiming that some nothing bridge music meant to tie two previously existing songs together is anywhere near the level of genius we’ve come to expect from Williams is absurd. I’m sorry for him, as it seems like producers just picked his existing music and said “Put it in this scene.”

 

[Halliwax]

oh... makes it a completely different context then when Kylo says, That lightsaber, it belongs to me!, knowing that he was close to it before.

Exactly!! They left that part in, which is confusing as all hell.. because him and the knights were hunting down sith artifacts (most of which they wear)

Kylo wanted the graflex to bleed it.. he was hunting it bad..

The knights are also now confirmed to by the acolytes from beyond, which were in the books where they hunted down darth vaders lightsaber to return it to him.. they had a shrine dedicated to vader, which I was amazed we didn’t see in this film..

 

[Halliwax]

As you can tell I’ve been a huge knights of ren fan before ep7 even came out

Once JJ announced kylo was the leader, and the movie had its medieval theme, I was hooked..

We now know the knights are all force sensitive, the original leader wielded a lightsaber... but you don’t see that leader anymore so I imagine kylo took him out...

This movie didn’t give them any justice though.. looked like kylo groupies.. which I guess you can say they technically are.. they worship him because of his bloodline

 

[Jagjaguwar]

But just claiming that some nothing bridge music meant to tie two previously existing songs together is anywhere near the level of genius we’ve come to expect from Williams is absurd.

I’m not sure where I said that.

You flat out said the music is nothing but old recycled material. This is demonstrably false. That’s all I said in response.