Star Wars The Force Awakens Soundtrack

Goonie

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Saw the soundtrack on the shelf at Walmart today. Thought about picking it up, until I saw the packaging.

Does anyone know if Disney is planning on releasing a 2-disc set, like they did for the original trilogy with the lenticular covers?

Once again inconsistent packaging is bugging me.
 
don't know. i'm listening to it right now. while it's no johnny williams of the 70's and 80's, it's a better score than i can currently compose for sure.
 
It's pretty lackluster at times, but Rey's theme is nice, I like it. I don't think today's film making style can work with really great music scores though. The fast pace and constant cutting from scene to scene just don't lend themselves to a grand musical piece like ANH's "The Final Battle" etc. Even the final scenes of ROTJ suffered from this style, with several shorter disconnected pieces rather than one long grand theme.
 
While I like it, I have to say.... the opening BANG of the theme wasn't there like the other 6. It even sounds like the music is a bit more tinny, bassy and without the middle stuff. It's an odd mix for the main theme and had mentally noted that as odd when the movie started.

I guess the right term I should be using is fullness. It sounded like instruments were absent in the opening scroll. Anyone else hear that, too? Almost as if it wasn't Williams conducting it.

I've head the theme so many times I just know when I hear it. Stuff is missing this time. It might be the sound mixer's fault though...
 
As I said in another thread, this is the first time LSO weren't used & not recorded in Abbey Road

J
 
Just found this:

[h=2]No LSO[/h]The London Symphony Orchestra will not be featuring on the soundtrack for The Force Awakens. It'll be the first time the legendary orchestra hasn't performed the soundtrack to a major Star Wars release.

Instead, the soundtrack will be recorded by a 'freelance orchestra' in Los Angeles. Diplomatically, Williams had the following to say about the change in personnel:

"The London Symphony Orchestra has consistently performed with great artistry on all six of the prior films in the Star Wars saga, and I will be forever grateful for their commitment and dedication. Equally, it has been my honor to have worked with my brilliant colleagues in Los Angeles, and always appreciate the invaluable contribution they’ve made to my scores and to those of other composers."


J
 
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It's really too bad about the score. When I can out of the movie, that was the glaring problem with it.

Compare it withe revenge of the sith. That was total space opera.

This just felt empty.

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The score picked up a lot for me on second viewing, much better and just felt narrative rather than big score in your face, it worked really well
 
I like the score but it is definitely the weakest of the series. It lacks powerful themes. Empire's soundtrack which is by far the best, seems to have a memorable theme for almost every scene in the movie. This feels more like backgound atmospheric music. Williams is by far my favorite composer and I don't like to criticize the master, but I'm not going to lie to myself and pretend it is better than it really is. Although it may be one of his weaker soundtracks I am still enjoying it and am extremely grateful that Williams is still producing soundtracks at his age. I'm going to enjoy whatever he can give us, because I'm going to be devastated when the day comes that he is no longer making music.
 
For god sake give him a break!!! John Williams is 83!!! Do you understand that. He's not ****king Yoda who can live to continue to compose every SW movie unto the end of the 21st century. We were actually lucky to have him do this at all. You do realise he had a minor health problem in March of this year that stopped him working on "Bridge of Spies" for Spielberg.
I've been listening to it and its NOT that bad. Sit in a quiet room and its immediately and most recognisably a SW soundtrack. If there is a change in emphasis to me it sounds as if the string section is not used as extensively as before and the brass gives it an over strident and more clean and clipped approach in respounce to all the action. His use of the old themes is in there but its subtly used and if he had scored say Reys theme similarly to Lukes then its obviously going to sign post things.
For the new trilogy he has attempted to take it to a degree in another direction. The other unfortunate thing is the film just doesn't have as many opportunities that the OT had to let him develop those longer slower and more melodic themes because the ****ly thing doesn't stand still long enough for him to do so. It just crashes on and so mostly does the score have to follow suite .
Time catches up with everybody. People end up being the older mentors in this film because , guess what, they are seventy years plus so there are very limited ways of playing the part. Where there are really legitimate objections to be made, so be it ,somethings in the film are just unavoidable. It isn't his best, but after six films it hard to do anything different and yet still keep it recognisably within the SW universe.
 
Believe me I know. I am certainly not bashing my favorite composer. I am amazed that he is still doing this at 83. I appreciate that he is still producing beautiful music and I will gladly take anything I can get from him. I was simply stating that it wasn't as strong as his other Star Wars soundtracks. I will be listening to the Force Awakens sountrack many more times and will still love it. I can't get enough of John Williams.

For god sake give him a break!!! John Williams is 83!!! Do you understand that. He's not ****king Yoda who can live to continue to compose every SW movie unto the end of the 21st century. We were actually lucky to have him do this at all. You do realise he had a minor health problem in March of this year that stopped him working on "Bridge of Spies" for Spielberg.
I've been listening to it and its NOT that bad. Sit in a quiet room and its immediately and most recognisably a SW soundtrack. If there is a change in emphasis to me it sounds as if the string section is not used as extensively as before and the brass gives it an over strident and more clean and clipped approach in respounce to all the action. His use of the old themes is in there but its subtly used and if he had scored say Reys theme similarly to Lukes then its obviously going to sign post things.
For the new trilogy he has attempted to take it to a degree in another direction. The other unfortunate thing is the film just doesn't have as many opportunities that the OT had to let him develop those longer slower and more melodic themes because the ****ly thing doesn't stand still long enough for him to do so. It just crashes on and so mostly does the score have to follow suite .
Time catches up with everybody. People end up being the older mentors in this film because , guess what, they are seventy years plus so there are very limited ways of playing the part. Where there are really legitimate objections to be made, so be it ,somethings in the film are just unavoidable. It isn't his best, but after six films it hard to do anything different and yet still keep it recognisably within the SW universe.
 
Guys, I work in classical music. I realize that 83 is old, but in my world, classical guys get better with age. It's not like rock and roll.

Even the players get better the older they get

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I love it, there's some classic Williams stuff there,......kettle drums like in ANH,.....tunes that remind me of ET & Jaws

Brilliant

J
 
He is getting older, and it can be hard to be creative on demand, especially as one ages. I love his music, but I'd be lying if I said I felt his scores for th epast fifteen or twenty years didn't have a lot of... "saminess" going on with them. Listen to Hook, and then listen to Harry Potter. Granted, go back and listen to Empire and Raiders -- a year apart -- and he's obviously in the same creative headspace for both. But both of those have much more strongly-developed thematic elements than later stuff. One or two main hemes or motifs, and the rest tends to be meandering strings/horns. My only gripe about the earlier Star Wars stuff is The Imperial March. In Star Wars, Vader had a theme, but it wasn't a very well-formed one, and it lacked oomph. He definitely rectified that for Empire. The subtitle of the Imperial March is "Darth Vader's Theme". It plays for all of his scenes in Empire and Jedi, most notably when Anakin dies. I have a problem with that, by the way, if he was no longer "Vader" at that point. Shoulda been some flavor of sad Force Theme. But anyway. Vader's Theme was then also used for the Emperor's Arrival in Jedi, the launching of the Clone army in Episode II... Significantly Imperial but non-Vader moments.

For these new films...? I want him to stay on to oversee and advise, but bring in one or two younger composers who have studied and grokked him thoroughly. The music for the KOTOR games has felt more like Star Wars music to me than the last several films' scores.

And I'll echo my disappointment in not using the LSO. The difference is instantly noticeable to this Star Wars nerd. I've been able to tell the differences between the Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi fanfares for years, and Empire's version is far and away my favorite.

--Jonah
 
Revenge of the sith had one of the best soundtracks of the series. That's why I'm shocked at this one.

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Revenge of the sith had one of the best soundtracks of the series. That's why I'm shocked at this one.

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ROTS was a decade ago. If JW is 83 now, he was 73 then. A lot of people's abilities deteriorate rather steeply from 73 to 83, if they're lucky enough to reach that age at all.

The Wook
 
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