Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Post-release)

[cayman shen]

The problem with Luke leaving her to my mind is that it would amount to basically "here kid, fend for yourself on this planet full of sketchy mofos. Have fun not becoming a sex slave, and good luck!"

 

[MastahBlastah]

Big issue there is that that would make Rey around 35.

As to luke leaving - sorry, can't buy he left because he felt guilty or responsible. If he felt that way at all, you stay around until you fix the problem you think you created - then you can go away. Luke would not turn a dark jedi loose on the galaxy and just bail out.

Good point about the age disparity, I hadn't thought of that one. I know that's not how it's gonna turn out, it just would have been crazy. She would have had to have been older or implied that less time had passed, though.

Also, I believe in the film there is a line where Han states that Luke blamed himself for Kylo's turning and that that is what prompted him to search for the temple. Maybe that's just Han's interpretation of the situation though. I agree that it will be revealed that Luke had good reason to leave (discovering ancient secrets etc.) but I'm just saying, it at least came up in the film.

 

[crabra comander]

I'm loving the casting choices.

Did anyone notice the actor from The Raid movies in the Rathar scene? A bit of a wasted role, since the dude went balls out in the Raid 2

 

[SmilingOtter]

Yeah, there may be more to that scene lying on the cutting room floor. (Or would, if they still had cutting room floors.)

 

[kristen jones]

The OT characters simply we're not the same people.
They were not behaving normally, strangers.
Major fail and I'm glad people are noticing.

Of course the OT characters aren't the same people. Are WE the same people after 30 years? I should hope not. Life CHANGES us... some for the better and some for the worse. but it is very rare that you can encounter someone that you knew 30 years ago--and have had zero contact with in the interim--and just pick back up where you left off. It will take a while to figure out whom that person is now.. and the same is true for those characters.

I wish people would think through their objections a bit before they just spit them out. that isn't to say that there aren't any things in TFA to question, but one should meditate on one's objections a bit before making an ideology out of them.

Someone complained earlier that the Falcon didn't move like it did in the OT. Well DUH... someone else is piloting it!

 

[kristen jones]

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You built a whole entire scene of everyone sitting around and you couldn't include one more character?

sometimes maybe you don't need one more character.

it's a good directorial sign when one can gauge the importance of a scene and realize when too much is too much.

 

[seelsa73]

Someone complained earlier that the Falcon didn't move like it did in the OT. Well DUH... someone else is piloting it!

There's that, and then there's the real-world explanation that they can do a lot more now than they could 38, 35, and 32 years ago with the technology at their disposal

 

[JoMamma_Smurf]

Here's my two cents on Rey's lineage. If I was writing Episode VIII (and if this wasn't still at its heart, a Disney movie), this would be the case:

It is revealed that at some point during the OT, before Luke reveals to Leia that they're siblings, Luke and Leia gave in to the sexual tension between them and did the deed, conceiving Rey. Yes, incest. Rey's double Skywalker heritage would explain her level of strength with the Force (ability to exercise it without training) and it would also explain why the heck nobody wants to talk about Rey or where she came from. It's Leia's dark secret, and she naturally wouldn't have told this to Han (who is oblivious, but for some reason feels drawn to her) and also adds credibility to Luke's decision to go into hiding. I know this won't be the case, but just imagine. Imagine if this is where the Star Wars story went. It would be even more shocking and disturbing than "Luke, I am your Father". Also, this type of behavior was common in the past to avoid "diluting" royal blood lines. I mean, is Anakin's Immaculate Conception really any stranger? I would love to see something as daring and controversial as this happen, but in fact it will probably just be that she is Luke's daughter from a wife that he took post-ROTJ. I think it will be revealed that Kylo not only killed Luke's students, but that he also killed Luke's wife. It seems to me that the death of Luke's students wouldn't have been enough to make him selfishly go into hiding (impeding the fight against the First Order), but perhaps the loss of his wife would be his breaking point. We've seen in the OT that Luke's love for those closest to him has been his undoing in the past. Also, this would explain why Rey's mother hasn't entered the picture (she's dead).

#1 GROSS This isn't game of thrones.

#2 Rey would be like 40 years old.

 

[Guy Cowen]

Anyone complaining about the falcon doesn't deserve to have it in their lives again,

We get to see it do all the things we want and love and X 10

I'd be more gutted if the falcon wasn't in it than Han, I can live without Han as want the new cast to just grow and grow but loosing the falcon would be a travesty on screen that my poor mind wouldn't be able to cope with

 

[Guy Cowen]

My hopes for ep8 are

Chewy stays and becomes Rey's side kick

3PO gets ablitarated

R2 joins Luke to help with house work

Poe gets more screen time

The nights of Ni reform to go after Luke

Yoda appears

No Red dwarf style monsters

More ships , more ships and more ships

Finn, gets a new spine metaphorically and physically

And that Rey isn't a skywalker

 

[dascoyne]

If it hasn't been said before I predict that Luke was channeling through Rey using the force to influence her decisions and channeling force powers. This is why her behavior mirrored moments from the OT - e.g. Lightsaber retrieved from the snow. And also explains why she's nearly in a trance when she hands him his lightsaber.

 

[kristen jones]

Hmmm... I don't know if I like the idea that Luke was essentially making choices FOR her through the force. That takes away from Rey as a person. That is one of the things that I love about her: she was abandoned on a desolate planet and left to fend for herself but yet she still is not bitter and jaded (like Kylo) and cares for and wants to help others as well as do what is right.

I prefer to think that she looked deep within herself and heard the will of the Force speaking to her.. and THAT is what helped her to make the choices that she did.

 

[glunark]

I really don't see what the problem people have with the monsters on Han's ship, I mean have they seen ROTJ?

JJ gets attacked when he uses things we have seen in a star wars film before, and attacked when he creates something new.

I even saw someone use the excuse "it doesn't look like anything we have seen in a star wars film before", well isn't that true of everything we have seen in a film that wasn't in ANH? Like Wampas, Mynocks, Uganauts, Tauntauns, and all the things in jedi designed to sell toys, regardless of how bad they would look in the actual film.

Gamorean guards anyone?

Regardless of what those monsters looked like, the fact that Han just cold bloodedly just shoved a guy into its mouth is well on its way to erasing the memory of the Greedo shooting first travesty.

 

[dascoyne]

Hmmm... I don't know if I like the idea that Luke was essentially making choices FOR her through the force. That takes away from Rey as a person. That is one of the things that I love about her: she was abandoned on a desolate planet and left to fend for herself but yet she still is not bitter and jaded (like Kylo) and cares for and wants to help others as well as do what is right.

I prefer to think that she looked deep within herself and heard the will of the Force speaking to her.. and THAT is what helped her to make the choices that she did.

I didn't mean that he controlled her completely but perhaps he gave a little "nudge" to keep her on a path for a greater plan. Perhaps he's been doing this for years since he went into hiding. Maybe it's because of her affinity for the force that he could do that.

But I agree that her character and performance were amazing. She had a natural integrity of character and self-sufficiency that didn't seem forced even one bit. She was strong without needing to prove she could dominate. She held her own against Harrison Ford (as did Boyega) that I felt the franchise was being passed into very capable hands.

 

[SteveStarkiller]

I keep going back to that exchange between Luke and Obi Wan

"you mean the force controls your actions?"

"partially, but it also obeys your commands"

I think this explains what's going with Rey for me. The Force has awakened in her, and it's both guiding her actions and obeying her commands.

 

[crabra comander]

I'm glad that the Force is being displayed as a struggle for both sides. Rey looked on the verge of striking down Ben, but held back. That little novel had some good internalized information that could only be shown with great acting ability.

I think Daisy and John did amazing in their roles, it really helped the film where it may have faltered and just not clicked

 

[jhazard]

I'm skeptical that Luke was somehow connected to Rey's use/awareness of the force, at least in regards to actions after she touched the saber. I'm thinking he had to be aware of the larger picture, with the rise of the first order and the planet weapon. I'm sure he felt the destruction of the planets... as well as Han's passing.

Han's explanation of Luke's absence is based on stories and rumors, he didn't have first hand info. My guess is he was out looking for help, because he foresaw the problem coming was bigger than he alone could deal with.

 

[R.P. McMurphy]

Looks like a McQuarrie concept wookie as we immediately enter Maz's castle.

 

[glunark]

The force awakens has been out for one week, and already its made more than Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

 

[cboath]

Ticket price in 1980, like 4 bucks for an adult. Today, normal 2D here is about 10, 3D 12.50, imax 15.