Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

Here are a few things that no longer work for me as a first generation STW fan who just turned 55:
- are Stormtroopers really wearing armor or just stupid useless white plastic costumes (which still look really cool I have to admit;)
- are they really threatening to torture a 10 year old kid on screen?
- do they really think I jump out of my pants seeing three snowspeeders entering a scene?
- do they really want me to believe Ewan and Hayden returned for the fun of it and NOT for the money?
- do they really think my 9 year old boy is NOT laughing at me seeing me ranting over this series?
 
The OT:
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The PT:
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The ST:
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everything since:
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Well, I waited until I was four episodes in to determine what I think of this series. The plot holes and the energy required to suspend belief leave me feeling insulted. Simultaneously I've been watching another series on Disney (Moon Knight) and the differences in writing, creativity and cinematography could not be any more stark.

Those of you enjoying the Obi series I'm sincerely happy for you — I so wanted to like it. But alas, at this point I can't muster the enthusiasm to even finish it.
 
I'm liking it pretty well so far. It's not as good as Mando, but it's a hell of a lot better than BOBF. At least there's stakes here, and I understand why the main characters are behaving the way they are. (Well, Leia is a little too much "because child," but Kenobi and Third Sister both have motivations that I grok.)
 
You know, i've done a lot of thinking and i know i've contributed to, what might be viewed as negativity by some, so i've decided to highlight what i think are the "most positive"parts of TBOB and The Obi-wan Kenobi series, so here they are:

Coming at no.1...by far is Garsa Fwip

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Coming in at no.2...The new Kenobi lightsaber

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I will always treasure these 2 specific contributions to the Star Wars community...yes, i have issues but don't anyone dare say i've never said anything positive about these 2 shows ever again. lol
 
Putting the tracking device in Leia's droid was just so dumb and predictable. The fact tha Leia still had it after being held captive by the Inquisitors and no one thought to check it is absurd. I'm sure this is the moment where they're trying to show how Leia in ANH recognized that the Falcon was being tracked. The desire to give the origin of every single thought and action in the OT massively cheapens it. Show us new ideas and concepts we haven't seen in SW instead of copying and regurgitating everything to death.

I did like the mini probe droid a lot though, I want one lol. The actress playing Leia also continues to be do very well. I see adult Leia reflected in her quite frequently which is awesome.
 
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CopperRevan said:
You know, i've done a lot of thinking and i know i've contributed to, what might be viewed as negativity by some, so i've decided to highlight what i think are the "most positive"parts of TBOB and The Obi-wan Kenobi series, so here they are:

Coming at no.1...by far is Garsa Fwip

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Coming in at no.2...The new Kenobi lightsaber

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I will always treasure these 2 specific contributions to the Star Wars community...yes, i have issues but don't anyone dare say i've never said anything positive about these 2 shows ever again. lol
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You forgot to add the third best thing about BOBF and Kenobi…

The primary setting being that nexus of the universe where everything takes place…eh, wait… I meant “that backwater, desolate planet where nothing ever happens: Tatooine.”

Dirt planets and Star Wars are like peas and carrots…

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When a child is captured and goes through interrogation and has to be rescued by one of the greatest Jedi Masters of all time and has to be the grown -up and console her rescuer is utterly pathetic!!! She's 10 yrs old!!! Just another way to make Obi-wan even more pathetic in this series than he already is.(Poor Obi, i guess he needs more time to heal). They should have never met in the first place based on ANH . If he was a real man, he would have held her in his arms first to console her instead of abandoning a natural fatherly figure instinct only to continue to wallow in his own bewilderment. Great writing...bravo. ugh!!

Little Leia is by far the best character in this series...the actress has a great future ahead of her and i wish her the best.

My love for Star Wars (With the hope of an OT Luke Skywalker) always tries to believe there maybe some good left in it...but i should never have watched any of this and just refused the pull of the dark side. I know who Luke Skywalker, Obi-wan Kenobi, Han Solo, Leia, Chewy, Darth Vader, r2 C3P0 and Lando, Yoda, the Emperor, Boba Fett among others are...They've been with us the whole time.

It's like when you go through life and you have a great core of friends who are always there, who never leave you unlike many acquantences that you meet throughout your life...You hold on to them and let the Jake Skywalkers and Jake Kenobi's go because you never really knew them anyway and they sure as heck didn't care about you. These latest series have caused so much trauma in me, i will go and isolate myself and wallow in a cave somewhere while i let PTSD control every part of my being...I'm a failure...i tried to turn you away from the darkside but i failed. I can only hope you will feel as sorry for me as you do Jake Kenobi. Goodbye...lol. Just kidding
 
CopperRevan said:
You know, i've done a lot of thinking and i know i've contributed to, what might be viewed as negativity by some, so i've decided to highlight what i think are the "most positive"parts of TBOB and The Obi-wan Kenobi series, so here they are:

Coming at no.1...by far is Garsa Fwip

View attachment 1585015

Coming in at no.2...The new Kenobi lightsaber

View attachment 1585016

I will always treasure these 2 specific contributions to the Star Wars community...yes, i have issues but don't anyone dare say i've never said anything positive about these 2 shows ever again. lol
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You know, I was going to make a flippant comment here, but instead I think I'll just say that at least there are things you like.
 
HMSwolfe said:
Ugh…ugh…argh…AAAAAHHHHHH!

This show is killing me. Fumbling around, taking missteps at every possible turn.

Whose idea was it to put together 9 year-old child actor written by people who have never encountered a 9 year-old with silly, hammy, impossible to take seriously Reva? What dialogue is this? What’s more intimidating:

“You WILL tell me what you know.”

vs the actual line

“You’re gonna tell me what I wanna know!”

No one, and I mean NO ONE in the Empire should be saying “wanna” or “gonna”.

When was it established Leia knew a single thing about “the Path” outside of the one, singular safe house she’d been to?

The music angers me. So much. It’s getting worse. There was one brief section in the middle that was sort of Star Wars-esque but it was brief and lacking.

Why do these new shows insist on inventing new security systems and things like that that make ANH harder and harder to buy? So they have Imperial droids roaming the corridors of “Fortress Inquisitorious” (which made me gag when I heard it) by the dozens, but the Death Star has none?

Why would there be so much security for a big freezer with Jedi in it? Why are they keeping the bodies? I mean, seriously, this doesn’t even match up to the canon they established in this show. If they were so intent on killing the Jedi to put them into their Jurassic Park amber collection, why’d they leave the dude from the first episode just hanging around on Tatooine?

Supposedly Force-users can sense other Force-users. So why doesn’t Reva go, “hey, you’re practically a damn Jedi, Leia. I’m gonna turn you in to my boss so I can get some brownie points, who cares about Kenobi because you’re clearly very Force-sensitive.” Whoops, then they run a blood test for the midi-chlorians and find out she’s related to Anakin, show over, goodbye. Someone’s going to chime in now and say, “but ROTJ ruined that first by making Leia Luke’s sister, and that’s why you should humbly accept all BS from here until the end of time, because the OT retconned things.” To which I say, humbly go and eat a brick.

The little “rag-tag” group of Path people were all terrible. Reminded me of the Resistance in a bad way. (Like, TLJ bad.) Remember when the Rebellion seemed like it was staffed by people who were prepared to fight, and didn’t look like college-aged actors getting their first break?

So glad we spent valuable time in this brief 30 minute episode (including a recap and an long logo intro and a show intro) showing us how a bacta tank works, the very, very poorly edited “flashbacks” to the battle we just watched last week, and then bearded man saying “I won’t help you. Actually, I will. You convinced me by doing and saying nothing.”

I’m finishing this show out of morbid curiosity alone at this point. Nothing they could say or do can fix the lack of attention to detail, to canon, to the writing, its overall execution. It’s a big mess, and while overall the pacing has been (until now, apparently) somewhat more competent than BOBF, it’s clear that this is a story that an algorithm demanded they tell to fill content, not one anyone was interested in telling. Same with BOBF, except that show had an episode or two of escape in the middle where it shifted focus back to a character they wanted to tell a story about.

Some may say “hey, power to you if you enjoyed this. Like what you like, and all that.” Not me. Not anymore. Stop defending this. Please. All you’re doing is allowing more of this trite, poorly written garbage to get made. It’s destroying me. You shouldn’t be content with table scraps.
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Don't hold back wolfe, how do you really feel?
 
Paul Andrew said:
You know, I was going to make a flippant comment here, but instead I think I'll just say that at least there are things you like.
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Man, I'm really not mean spirited at all...lol, seriously just having some fun. I could be a little passionate, snarky, sarcastic, but I'm just a softy at heart. We all like different things, have reasons why or why not. I spar back and forth but I think every one on here has a voice...is important to the discussion and loves Star Wars. Anyways, thank you. I've got thick skin and maybe too many funny bones...lol
 
There's just not much to say that hasn't already been said. I always enjoy seeing new Imperial environs and I wasn't openly offended but it was just another "meh" episode for me. With the bizarre and pervasive inclusion of Leia, this show is definitely less about Obi-wan and more just a retread of The Mandalorian (aka Lone Wolf and Cub) formula.

I guess T-47 airspeeders really don't look so different than their modified snowspeeder variants. Was Wade someone we were supposed to care about?

Security seems shockingly lax on an Imperial stronghold like Nur. No one detected the Rebel ship entering the system, or the inbound speeders barreling toward the Inquisitor fortress?

I agree that the trend to make stormtroopers increasingly useless seems to be ever continuing.

Looks like all the hype they were drumming up about including Hayden Christiansen was only that. I was reading that there were two other stuntmen that play Vader either walking around and for the dueling sequences. So when exactly is Hayden in the suit that they talked so much about in the build up to the show? Clearly not much. Other than the blink and miss it Anakin hallucination Obi-wan experienced and the glimpses of maskless Vader in the bacta tank, it seems Hayden is not in this much. I was honestly expecting pervasive flashbacks throughout of earlier times with Anakin but with two episodes left, it seems a little late for that to be introduced.

I had a theory that perhaps ex-padawan Reva actually had Machiavellian designs to get close enough to Vader to kill him. In her mind, all the bad she's done will be worth it if she can kill Vader and avenge her fellow padawans. However I don't know if that's a twist they can sell.
 
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