Star Trek Picard Season Three

Also, it's definitely possible that the set is not 100%-exact-to-the-micron-accurate to the original, but suggesting the whole set was built wrong based on a couple shots of Stewart and a plaque and over 30 years of time passed is kind of crazy.
Then color me crazy.

*pulls eject handle, ejects out of topic*

-Pengbuzz out.
 
I can't tell if we're mad that the set isn't a 100% faithful reproduction down to every measurement and angle or if we're just picking it apart for the sake of finding the minute changes because it's interesting.

The new set is close enough for the limited number of shots it's going to be in. It's clearly the thing it's supposed to be and evokes the right feelings when you get the crew back on it.
 
I can't tell if we're mad that the set isn't a 100% faithful reproduction down to every measurement and angle or if we're just picking it apart for the sake of finding the minute changes because it's interesting.

The new set is close enough for the limited number of shots it's going to be in. It's clearly the thing it's supposed to be and evokes the right feelings when you get the crew back on it.

I think the new “D” bridge set is perfect.

I’m not seeing any flaws.
 
NuTREK: Completely disrespect and redesign the original Enterprise, the most iconic and beloved spaceship in history (real or fictional), so it can be exploited in a mediocre new series “for modern audiences”.


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Also NuTREK: Rebuild the Enterprise-D in autistic detail as nostalgia-bait, to the point that nitpicking nerds will argue about the most minor dimensional/detailing differences which no normal person cares about.

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Double.

Standard.
 
NuTREK: Completely disrespect and redesign the original Enterprise, the most iconic and beloved spaceship in history (real or fictional), so it can be exploited in a mediocre new series “for modern audiences”.


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Also NuTREK: Rebuild the Enterprise-D in autistic detail as nostalgia-bait, to the point that nitpicking nerds will argue about the most minor dimensional/detailing differences which no normal person cares about.

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Double.

Standard.

Akiva Goldsman vs Terry Matalas. Clearly the latter understands Trek, the former does not. Matalas also brought Dave Blass, Drexler and the Okudas for the show that's why there's fealty to the original. Say what you want about the inaccuracies in the sets, the most important thing that sets this season apart from the others as well as other NuTrek shows is the emphasis on characters without a single agenda or wokeness polluting the story. In that regard, Matalas has succeeded where a Pulitzer Prize winning author and an Oscar winning screenwriter failed before him.
 
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Akiva Goldsman vs Terry Matalas. Clearly the latter understands Trek, the former does not. Matalas also brought Dave Blass, Drexler and the Okudas for the show that's why there's fealty to the original. Say what you want about the inaccuracies in the sets, the most important thing that sets this season apart from the others as well as other NuTrek shows is the emphasis on characters without a single agenda or wokeness polluting the story. In that regard, Matalas has succeeded where a Pulitzer Prize winning author and an Oscar winning screenwriter failed before him.

…I recently rewatched BATMAN & ROBIN.

I think that Pulitzer needs to be taken back on general principle.
 
…I recently rewatched BATMAN & ROBIN.

There's nothing wrong with Batman & Robin. Its not a failure, it was exactly the movie it set out to be. You don't order ice cream and then complain it doesn't taste like steak.

Goldsman and Matalas are both doing fine work with their respective shows.
 
Okay, I hate political talk here - it's supposed to be against the forum rules, but it obviously still happens a lot. I also hate to feed into it, but I get tired of the same stuff being mentioned over-and-over with little to no pushback - probably because most of us want to follow the rules and talk about subjects we enjoy, and don't want to get into a war of words that will have no benefit and will also open up reprisals from people that may be close-minded and vindictive. So I'll say this: Star Trek has always had stories that were fairly thinly veiled morality plays based on politically charged issues of the time. Go back and watch TOS and TNG and count how many stories are allegories on race, religion, sexual orientation, climate change, socialism, human rights...the list goes on-and-on. If you missed that when you watched it the first time, you missed the point of Trek, and sci-fi in general, completely. And if you don't even watch the series that this thread is dedicated to, you're doing a disservice to everyone here that wants to discuss the show, no matter how trivial the details. It's like going to a party you weren't invited to and then complaining about it to the actual guests. It's classless.
I know this will fall on deaf ears, but man, it's just annoying. You don't have to agree with everything everyone says, but if you're just here to complain, I'd suggest there are better venues for it. And better uses of your time.
 
Okay, I hate political talk here - it's supposed to be against the forum rules, but it obviously still happens a lot. I also hate to feed into it, but I get tired of the same stuff being mentioned over-and-over with little to no pushback - probably because most of us want to follow the rules and talk about subjects we enjoy, and don't want to get into a war of words that will have no benefit and will also open up reprisals from people that may be close-minded and vindictive. So I'll say this: Star Trek has always had stories that were fairly thinly veiled morality plays based on politically charged issues of the time. Go back and watch TOS and TNG and count how many stories are allegories on race, religion, sexual orientation, climate change, socialism, human rights...the list goes on-and-on. If you missed that when you watched it the first time, you missed the point of Trek, and sci-fi in general, completely. And if you don't even watch the series that this thread is dedicated to, you're doing a disservice to everyone here that wants to discuss the show, no matter how trivial the details. It's like going to a party you weren't invited to and then complaining about it to the actual guests. It's classless.
I know this will fall on deaf ears, but man, it's just annoying. You don't have to agree with everything everyone says, but if you're just here to complain, I'd suggest there are better venues for it. And better uses of your time.


That's great and all, but lets get back to the height of the plaque please!
 
NuTREK: Completely disrespect and redesign the original Enterprise, the most iconic and beloved spaceship in history (real or fictional), so it can be exploited in a mediocre new series “for modern audiences”.


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Also NuTREK: Rebuild the Enterprise-D in autistic detail as nostalgia-bait, to the point that nitpicking nerds will argue about the most minor dimensional/detailing differences which no normal person cares about.

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Double.

Standard.
I think there are a few issues at play here.

Firstly, we have the same actors playing the same characters, aged roughly in real time, going back to what is supposed to be the bridge of the same ship. If they had done any kind of new version of it where it went uncommented upon by the characters that it had changed, or even worse they had pretended that it was exactly the same, it would have been very very silly.

Secondly, there is no way in hell the bridge of TOS enterprise holds up in a new show. They used a similar coloring and layout to get the vibe across without being beholden to every detail of the original design. It evokes the OG bridge without trying to cram 60's era design into 2020s tv. IMO they did a fine job.
 
Anybody else notice that Picard did “the Picard maneuver” when he sat down in the “D’s” command chair? Nice touch and I wonder if it was completely subconscious on his part?
I doubt that it would have been subconscious. Actors are very conscious of what they do with their "instrument," meaning their body and voice, and bits of business like that are very deliberate.

I think the new “D” bridge set is perfect.

I’m not seeing any flaws.
Me neither, and I was there, and my memory from 33 years ago when I took no measurements is of course flawlessly accurate. :p
 
I can't tell if we're mad that the set isn't a 100% faithful reproduction down to every measurement and angle or if we're just picking it apart for the sake of finding the minute changes because it's interesting.
It's 100% picking it apart because they have nothing but negativity to contribute. They want to be able to find a flaw so they can make some commentary about how they are the expert and the show runners are idiots.
 
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