Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release)
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Why do you keep saying that? As a general rule, action doesn't always make a film better. It certainly didn't make Nemesis a good film yet we're still doing the same schtick that film did with a vengeful driven bad guy who wants to attack Earth.
PotionMistress
Sr Member
THIS is what sticks in my craw.....it's SO overused in film and TV today, it not only borders on cliche'....it's in bed with it!
Ronan87
Sr Member
We are going at 3:30... here's the catch.
Online tickets say's it's not playing at our theater.
Google say's it's not playing at our theater.
Our theater website say's its playing at 3:30 today May 10th.
When calling the theater, their's no option to talk to anyone and they give you the listings which have NOT been updated for today (say's the one for Thursday May 9th).
Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Going there = $$$ in gas + parking + traffic + etc. Wish us luck, we really want to see it!
Online tickets say's it's not playing at our theater.
Google say's it's not playing at our theater.
Our theater website say's its playing at 3:30 today May 10th.
When calling the theater, their's no option to talk to anyone and they give you the listings which have NOT been updated for today (say's the one for Thursday May 9th).
Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Going there = $$$ in gas + parking + traffic + etc. Wish us luck, we really want to see it!
Star Trek (2009)
Bad guy attacks San Francisco.
Star Trek Into Darkness
Bad guy attacks San Francisco.
RougeAvenger81
Well-Known Member
I think they are going to show a little bit more in depth look at star fleet since I think this army, etc is most likely engineered there. Aside from that I think it's going to be more to get Kirk to chase him or want to get him than attacking San Fran. Either way I'm pumped.
That good?
Did your Dad go see it with you?
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:lol Repped ya for that! :lol
Did your Dad go see it with you?
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:lol Repped ya for that! :lol
SSgt Burton
Sr Member
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Hated it, for several reasons.
The one thing I did like however was that in an Admiral's office there's a line of models that includes the NX-Alpha, The NX-01 and the Enterprise XCV-330.
I am convinced that since this is an obscure shout out to fans, Abrams had no part or knowledge of it.
The one thing I did like however was that in an Admiral's office there's a line of models that includes the NX-Alpha, The NX-01 and the Enterprise XCV-330.
I am convinced that since this is an obscure shout out to fans, Abrams had no part or knowledge of it.
And that was one of the more tame takes of the eel leaving Chekov's ear. Kevin, how else were they going to portray the eel coming out of his ear? The eel knew it was losing control over it's host and probably panicked after witnessing Terrell kill himself along with the eel inside of him. It's not random or gratuitous that the eel inside of Chekov to want to get out, and if we didn't see the eel leave Chekov, how would anyone know that Chekov was free of it? And it needed to happen at this time so that Kirk could see what Khan had done to one of his former crew members.
clancampbell
Sr Member
So STII was more documentary than spectacle?
Star Trek II was all about action and vengeance......obsession and insanity....Khan went wild...he ...slit their throats......Kirk NEEDED to get back in the Captains chair.....(just like TMP!)....another obsession.....come on.......as much as you seem to despise NuTrek....it surely can't be as bad as Spocks Brain, And the Children Shall Lead, The Omega Glory, Turnabout Intruder.....
remember, a film is approx...2 hours.......it CANNOT lean on 79 episodes and decades of blind devotion.......
Rich
It was also about life, death, old vs. new and the acceptance of mortality. The Kobayashi Maru simulation represents one of the film's major themes about how to deal with a situation that will always come with a heavy price no matter what course of action you take. This plays heavily in Spock's death because Kirk believes he and everyone else made it out alright, only to find out to his horror that they didn't.
The theme of age plays a heavy part as well since Kirk is dealing with the fact that he is no longer in his prime despite still wanting to captain a starship. Even accepting that "galloping around the cosmos is a game for the young". But when Kirk finally gets to command the Enterprise again, all his experience as a Starship captain and all the praises he had received for his original thinking, is undone when he couldn't see the danger that a young, inexperienced officer saw coming. And even though they came out of the situation alive, it's a hollow victory due to the loss of life under his command, and the knowledge that if this had been marginally different situation, they would have been dead ("We're alive only because I knew something about these ships that he didn't"). Was taking command of the Enterprise the right thing to do? Has Kirk really grown too old for the job? These are important questions that even Kirk is aware of, and he knows he's got to put aside his arrogance and pride if he's going to get his crew out of this alive. That's good drama.
nickytea
Master Member
Exactly. Buut you've got to look past the flash of a rollicking space adventure to get to the thematic meat.
Same with Into Darkness.
SSgt Burton
Sr Member
You said there was nothing "gratuitous" in ST:II.
A giant close-up on a forty foot movie screen of a massive "bug" coming out of someone ear, with a plenty of blood is gratuitous. It is meant to make the audience squirm in their seats. The subsequent wide shot of Chekov as the eel falls to the floor (just before Kirk shoots it) was not gratuitous and could just as easily conveyed to the audience everything you just mentioned.
I truly don't know why you can't understand this (other than a having strong need to argue and prove that you're "right" all the time). It's unfortunate that you have to resort to your usual end run/deflection around the argument at hand. What the eel was "thinking" has zero to do with whether or not a blood filled shot that takes up the entire screen of something that anyone can identify with as being incredibly unpleasent is gratuitous. Zip, ziltch, nada.
I was going to say something like "nice try"... but it isn't even worth the sarcasm. :lol
Kevin
Take it like a man Burton. Khan did horrible things to Terrell and Chekov and making the audience squirm in their seats helps convey that. At least Nicholas Meyer had the decency to include a set up shot showing Chekov grasping his ear so that you know where eel will be coming out of. As for Trek09, I'm still trying to figure out what relevance Beastie Boys had in the last movie outside of JJ's self "I like Beastie Boys!" indulgence.
SSgt Burton
Sr Member
Again, instead of actually arguing what is being discussed, you go for the ad hominem response, followed by another deflection, ending with a question that directs the discussion as far away from the initial exchange as possible.
Classic. :lol
Kevin
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