JD
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You're right. Gene Rodennberry and the series writers had nothing to do with the character. :wacko
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While this is a fair point it's the actor that really sets the tone for a character. DK created McCoy more than any other individual and, as is usually the case in television, had a say in the writing process for his character as well.
The writers wrote Kirk, Spock, and Bones. The dynamic and chemistry they had was primarily because of Shatner, Spock, and Kelly.
Zuiun
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^^THIS. Just look at the James Bond franchise for evidence of this. Same source material. Same basic character. Wildly different tones depending on the actor.
As for Urban, I see *some* of DeForest Kelly in his performance, but I also see Urban. I think he comes the closest of any of the cast of capturing some of the flavor of the original interpretations of the characters, but it's still something different (although Pine had a few quasi-Shatner moments in the delivery of a couple of his lines). I'm curious to see how his "Bones" evolves in the new film.
Riceball
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It's been shown in TNG that paralel universes/timelines exist in Trek and I'm just talking about the mirror universe. The best example of this was the episode where Worf was returning from a Bat'leth tournament in a shuttle and went through some sort of temporal anomaly and throughout the episode he experienced different versions of the Enterprise; ones where he didn't win the tournament that he did, one where he was married to Troi, paintings in his quarters in different positions, and so. By the end of the episode you saw dozens of Enterprises on screen, each from a different universe/timeline including one where the Federation was on the ropes vs. the Borg and Riker was captain of the Enterprise. So given that, there's no reason to believe that Trek '09 wiped out the timeline that we all know and love, it just created a new one that sits paralel with it.
JD
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I understand what you're saying... however, I think you're missing my point. Roddenberry created the character... the actor helped define it.
Roddenberry conceived the character, Kelly created him. I think this is just a difference of opinion. I've written many characters over the years, they're always different than the character that ends up on screen, usually in a big way. A television character doesn't become real until the actor does their thing and then after that pilot the writer follows what the actor creates.
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Not bad actually, a unique twist.
SmilingOtter
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"Select footage captured with IMAX cameras" - so will IMAX viewers see scenes that standard format viewers won't?
JD
Master Member
For the most part, the words and actions are from the writers (with Roddenberry's oversight) - they create that character with those words. Kelley (and other actors) define that character with the way they choose to portray them. It's a creative process that ultimately begins and ends with Roddenberry... if he didn't like the actors portrayal of his creation, he'd recast. Roddenberry wanted Kelley for the part - having gone through two other doctors prior to his casting... so it's easy to think that McCoy was also created with Kelley in mind.
Obviously, we're going to disagree... I think it's very apparent Roddenberry and Star Trek writers created the Leonard McCoy character. Did DeForrest Kelley play some role in that character's development/evolution? Yes. Did DeForrest Kelly create the character? No.
The ship can not be THAT big!!!
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Man, that is SO not the engineering section of the Enterprise! It was a cool clip but those lens flares get really old really quick.
Lost21stJedi
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Just my .02
I've been thinking...perhaps he is not Kahn but someone who found the Botany Bay and wants to release Kahn from stasis. He gives coordinates and says there are 72 reasons. Well if he was Kahn, wouldn't it be besides me, there are 71 more reasons? It would seem like a good set up for the next film as a Space Seed/ Wrath of Kahn mixture.
Lost21stJedi
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The landing party finds a cargo of 84 humans, 72 of whom are still alive and still in suspended-animation after nearly 300 years Space Seed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Then that may be great news. 
Then that may be great news.
But that would directly contradict what was posted in the TrekBBS.
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