Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release)
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seelsa73
Sr Member
Maybe I just didn't understand what you were saying in that first post. What I thought you were saying is that JJ's Trek is in fact not an alternate reality but instead a different universe altogether. Is that right?
How can that be when the boots featured on TOS were clearly different than the ones in the movie.
How do you know there's no way back? You can't write off Spock as being stuck with no way back if he doesn't say so or doesn't even try. Star Trek has fixed issues worse than this with no effort at all.
But didn't you know? Kirk's dad was the one who designed those boots! :lol
DARTH SABER
Master Member
correct. thats exactly what happens in the film...still not sure why Mole Rat was saying nothing in the movie establishes it as an alternate reality.
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There should have been a scene were Spock was playing the guitar and his hand starts disappearing... :lol
@ Michael, :lolthat would have been awesome! But, only if Spock was also singing about Bilbo Baggins
That's what we call an "Epic Nerd Mashup" right there! :lol
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
This sort of makes my point. When Biff took the sports book back to his past self in 1955 and his past self used it to get rich, then the timeline changed. Marty went back to 1985 and his reality had been altered! He was not in an alternate universe, or alternate reality witn ANOTHER Marty somewhere out there living an untouched life! There was only one Marty in his changed reality.
When he went back to 1955 and re-took the sports book, it changed the timeline, or his present, back to what it sould have been.
What I am saying is that the TOS crew is in the same position as this. Their future, or Prime Spock's 'present' has been changed. And just as Marty is the only one whe remembered what it had been, becuase he was outside of the bubble when the change happened, so is Spock Prime.
Now, If Spock Prime were to go back further into time, and be there when Nero showed up, and destroyed his ship, then the alternate reality, alternate timeline would revert back to what he had lived, and the changes would never have taken place.
But since Spock Prime does not have a delorian and seems to have forgotten the slingshot effect around a sun, we are now stuck with the altered reality that Nero set into place.
There is no 'other' TOS crew living the life as Spock Prime remembers. He was outside the buddle and Nu-Spock will have a completely different set of memories than Spock Prime does whe he grows up!
There are many different ideas of time travel reality out there. I would guess that JJ's is more akin to Sliders than BTTF. Both realities exist in different dimensions.
It's certainly an interesting argument though and it has validation. I just refuse to accept that JJ *ACTUALLY* wiped out TOS! :lol
It's certainly an interesting argument though and it has validation. I just refuse to accept that JJ *ACTUALLY* wiped out TOS! :lol
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
We know that there are different Trek realities out there. We have visited the mirror universe several times to know they exist. It's just that JJ wiped out the Trek universe that we were a part of!
Me personally, I refuse to believe that JJ's Trek is real! The last movie that we have from him will end with a very old Spock, retired on Vulcan waking up from a very intense nightmare! He will take a moment to collect his thoughts, flip his communicator open and call Uhura quickly and ask if they had ever done the nasty! After she calms down and quits expleting profanities at him, he hangs up and reflects on his weird dream, stating simply....."Fascinating!"
But the dream was fun for us to watch none-the-less! :$
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NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Opsies, double posty!
TheDoctor
Sr Member
He didn't "wipe it out" - it still exists. Given the TNG episode "Parallels", they're ALL out there!!
nickytea
Master Member
http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/29/thi...onfronting-harrison-berlin-premiere-prep-pix/
So does that clinch it?
72.
So does that clinch it?
72.
I can already see that the big reason to go see this film is for Cumberbatch's performance. I'm not really feeling Kirk in that scene but BC keeps you interested. :thumbsup
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