screen used Han carbonite? NOW WITH PICS AND INFO

[_Lee_]

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27224

This was just posted up on a forum i frequent. Not managed to do a lot of study of HIC yet so would be good to get opinions.

Please discuss

The guys posts:

'Hello

I have a completely original Hans Solo in Carbonite from the Leavesden set.

I would like to get it restored and/or sell it

It was legally purchased in 2002, it's still in England, and it has good provenance (affidavits and letters)

I have taken some amateur pictures I am happy to send or post, it's not a copy, limited edition, it's the real thing looking for a proper home and someone to restore him'...


When he was told it was an Illusive Concepts by a member he replied with this:


'Thanks Jason- this is very helpful. I will put up pictures of feet and hands.

Jason, I know for certain it's from the movie as it was sold directly to me by the Hertfordshire Film Link people who ran the Studio Complex from whom we have the signed original document) as part of a lot of other studio detritus - probably because the hand was damaged - the Leavesden people evidently put it into a remote shed with other props - they sold the entire contents to me with non Star Wars related items.

Being a big fan I kept it (unwrapped and unprotected) until I had time to fix it, which thankfully I haven't done yet

The back of the piece is made of wood (quite rotten through age ) but entirely original , my guess is that the replicas are rather more clean and tidy than this - which I suspect was used for one of the full face / body front shots, as there are no lights to the sides.

The screws and fixings are just not "licensed copy" quality - it's definitely original'

Bold statement to make, but could there be a possibility?

 

[_Lee_]

Re: Han Carbonite production prop....discuss

Guys,

Need a bit of help here please. This guy is saying that this is from the set and used for certain shots in the ESB.

Lee

 

[zorg]

Re: screen used Han carbonite?

Can't see the pics, gotta log in I think.

 

[_Lee_]

One last thing, I thought myself it could be just a cast from screen used piece.

 

[kurtyboy]

Better photos of the panels please. That's where most of the detail is.

 

[zorg]

not convinced its an original, the sides are wonky like the illusive concepts.

or maybe a cast from an illusive concepts.

 

[TheCaptain]

Doesn't the illusive concepts have all the panels the same ?



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[James Kenobi 1138]

If it's a cast of an Illusive the seller isn't technically lying as those were somewhat cast from the ROTJ HIC, but far removed from screen used.

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Plus all the ones in ESB were angled sides, the ROTJ ones had straight sides. I feel bad for the guy. Sounds like he bought it back in 02 before we had so much research and images, believing it was screen used. He's been telling everyone it's screen used, and now he can't let that go.

 

[kurtyboy]

Really need better photos of the side panels to see if they are cast from real Volvo parts or not.

 

[Treadwell]

Some of The Phantom Menace was shot at the Leavesden studio.....which was an aircraft factory (either in operation or derilict) until 1995 when it was converted into a studio. ESB was shot several miles away at Elstree, 16 years before Leavesden was even a studio.

So the Leavesden provenance makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Dstuart7918]

Hello, I'm the guy with the Han Solo, bought it in 2002 from a props and sundries outbuilding, that was was at Leavesden Studios. The studio complex and space was controlled by Hertfordshire Flim Link, and it became a "dumping ground" for all kinds of studio detritus, props, etc.

i have no idea how it got there, other than the fact that the buildings housed many TV and Film items from productions at Elstree, Leavesden, and the local "Location" productions that were controlled by Film Link.

i bought it with a load of other items, in 2002, as my company was asked to clear out the old storage sheds and make room for new things. It is damaged on the hand, which is why we had all assumed it had been put there out of the way. It is definitely not of the sort of quality that could be sold as a collectible replica. I am happy to let anyone come to Elstree and take a look at it, (it's back in a secure lock up, ) and I have a few pictures taken on my phone before I wrapped it up 2 weeks ago (in bubble wrap)

the signed correspondence from Hertfordshire Film link can be checked for authenticity, the payments made for it can be checked, the sworn statements of the employees who moved it from the stores can all be checked, so its provenance is good, BUT- I don't know how to prove if it's from the prop maker, from the movie, or from someone who had access to the original and made their own, which for some reason was just kept in the prop stores. (Which seems a little implausible) If anyone is interested, I am happy to send photos, Lee has been helpful in speculating what it might be, I am happy just to find out, before I get to work on trying to fix the fingers if it's without value, or to sell it if, as I suspect, it's entirely original, albeit a little battle worn!

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Hi, please see my response on the Leavesden connection.

 

[mugatu]

I think we all would love to be able to find out along with you, as an original prop would be something truly remarkable. I would take (and post) more photos, of the sides, of the bottom (the end under the feet), several of the hero panel (top right as Han faces the camera), several of the beta panel (just below the hero panel), and several of the hands and particularly the top side of what remains of the fingers and palms (I mean the parts where the hands meet the carbonite block). If it's real, it'd be worth that effort, in my opinion.

 

[Asmo]

I hope your HIC does turn out to be real.

That would be awesome.

 

[_Lee_]

Great to see you here Stuart, try to get those pics up ASAP.

Out of interest, does the name Elstree props? Norman Harrison ring any bells with regards to the paperwork?? Im probably pissing in the wind but it would help somewhat. I know that Elstree props had (or claimed to have) loads of original props including some from SW?

As others have said, I would be very surprised if this is real but you never know what is still out there. The year in which it sold is a concern as people were ripping people off left, right and center for huge amounts-anything Star Wars was game to such people.

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Stuart, was there ever a plaque on this?? or a mark from where a plaque once sat?

 

[Furious]

Wow, This is pretty cool!

 

[jwinnington]

Its been 5 years. Is there any more to this? What was the outcome? Is there more pics? It's like getting caught up in a series first season and there's no second.

 

[zenix]

It's just an illusive concepts HiC from the 90s

 

[Jabba9]

Great to see you here Stuart, try to get those pics up ASAP.

Out of interest, does the name Elstree props? Norman Harrison ring any bells with regards to the paperwork?? Im probably pissing in the wind but it would help somewhat. I know that Elstree props had (or claimed to have) loads of original props including some from SW?

As others have said, I would be very surprised if this is real but you never know what is still out there. The year in which it sold is a concern as people were ripping people off left, right and center for huge amounts-anything Star Wars was game to such people.

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Stuart, was there ever a plaque on this?? or a mark from where a plaque once sat?

Hi there. I've been doing some research on HIC and got directed to this post via the SW forum. Did you hear any more on this Lee? Intrigued to know what Stuart did with it. Even if it is an IC replica, I am sure many people would love to get their hands on it (including me).