Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details

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To be honest, I haven't seen a good idea for the Alien franchise since James Cameron. I was browsing though the unused scripts for Alien3, they are all horrible. Then there's the usual fannish stuff from the graphic novels/fan fiction - there's a traitor, a returning character from Aliens, an android, maybe a quasi-religious theme, lots of macho dialogue, bleugh.

I have no idea how they could make another good Alien movie, maybe they can, but it seems far from an open goal.
 
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I dunno...having watched Scott's Robin Hood recently, I have to say that I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the prospects for this film.
 
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Too Much Garlic said:
The Jockeys and the alien breed seem to be related. Maybe they are both creations by some third unknown creature. Just because it was a bomber doesn't mean it had to come bomb Earth - that's so cliché and overused and is beginning to get a little lame. Stumbling onto war-remnants between two alien races is much more interesting. Leave Earth out of it. Earth is trying to get those weapons so they can destroy themselves... not to defend themselves from alien invaders. Who wants this trashed globe anyway that looks so lovely from space?
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I agree the Jockey and alien seem to have alot shared parts. My thought was that maybe the Jockeys genetically created the Aliens using their own DNA much as we would maybe genetically engineer soldiers using our own. I do like the idea of victims becoming eggs. Maybe if that had still been in the film Cameron wouldn't have gone the queen route. I agree that earth needs to be left out and have this be a relic of some other war between species (no predators though please).
 
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alienscollection.com said:
Not that I don't love me some Ridley, but Star Wars was always better for me BEFORE I knew what the "prequel era" looked like. The vague story in my head beat anything anyone could have come up with. Same with the Space Jockey. Define it and you kind of destroy it.
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Absolutely. The prequels' clone wars exposition failed to match the wonder and awe aroused by Alec Guinness just sitting on a bench talking about them. Same here. The jockey-as-enigma will inevitably beat whatever Rid has in mind re exposition.
 
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Just reading back through the thread... the idea that the derelict was on its way to bomb Earth is just too lame to even contemplate. God, Ridley, please, no, let it not be so.

Also, the idea that the jockey and the alien are related is an inevitable by-product of Giger's ingenious but mono-textured design style. No more than that. I was always happy to wave this possible fault away with the idea that maybe both species come from the same planet or solar system, where everything has evolved Gigerishly for some reason...
 
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Weequay said:
is there an objection to the actual use of a queen to lay the eggs?

If its the later, then what did people think layed the eggs?



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In the shooting script of the first movie the origin of the eggs was more creepy: the alien made you into one.
 
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Making it a bomber for a war and the eggs the payload would be way too simple.
That was an ok backstory at one time I suppose just to mumble about.

If they do go that angle, they need to come up with a truly alien reason to be doing such a thing, maybe we interpret it as a "bomber" in our human sense of things to a certain point, but it needs to be more complex then that. I think also as they reveal more about what was going on, at the same time they must create more mystery and WTF???? reaction as well.
 
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Colin Droidmilk said:
Also, the idea that the jockey and the alien are related is an inevitable by-product of Giger's ingenious but mono-textured design style. No more than that. I was always happy to wave this possible fault away with the idea that maybe both species come from the same planet or solar system, where everything has evolved Gigerishly for some reason...
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I can buy that, seeing as species on Earth has developed from the same original blueprint into the various species around.
 
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OK, so looks like this is a whole different film then.

When they say it has ALIEN DNA, does that mean it's at least in the same universe?
Sounds like it isn't.

I know Prometheus stole fire from the gods, but looking it up found something kind of chilling I wasn't aware of...


n Greek mythology, Prometheus (Ancient Greek: Προμηθεύς, "forethought")[1] is a Titan, the son of Iapetus and Themis, and brother to Atlas, Epimetheus and Menoetius. He was a champion of mankind, known for his wily intelligence, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to mortals.[2] Zeus then punished him for his crime by having him bound to a rock while a great eagle ate his liver every day only to have it grow back to be eaten again the next day. His myth has been treated by a number of ancient sources, in which Prometheus is credited with – or blamed for – playing a pivotal role in the early history of mankind.
 
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That's a huge relief. Demystifying the first third of Alien - bad idea. Ridley Scott making a movie that's not unlike Alien - fantastic.
 
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CTF said:
Rather than...?
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I don't know. Call it a bummer I guess. I don't mind that it won't be in the same continuity or that it won't make the alien franchise good again. What I don't have good feelings about is this Damon Lindelof character. This guy is ust unbelievably mixed. There is hardly a thing he will say that he will stand by.
 
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