Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details

Nwerke said:
I'm ignorant of the LOTR cockup. What's that about?
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When they did the remaster of the Extended Edition of Fellowship of the Ring, there was a green tint added over the entire film. The entire film, from start to finish. Effectively changing the color tone of the entire film and ruining the whole point of all the color grading they did in the first place. It affects only FOTR, and only the Extended version, the Theatrical version used an older master with the correct colors.

It doesn't bother some people, and some people don't even notice it's there. But it's a screwup nonetheless, and I'm waiting until WB does something about it before pulling the trigger on a BD version of those films.

You can Google it, there was a huge fuss about it, and quite a few folks like myself that have refused to buy the set until WB acknowledges the problem and does something about it. The problem is that, according to the production crew, PJ and team really did go back and re-time the color on a handful of scenes that didn't get properly timed during production because of the schedule. As a result of this, when people started complaining about the green wash, WB's canned response was that it was intentional. They did this without actually looking into the specific complaint, they just assumed that people were complaining about the (real) intentional changes and not the unintentional screwup done somewhere in the mastering/authoring stage.
 
Just because I am not overly critical of movies before I have seen them (or before they are even finished making them) does not constitute a sheeple designation. At least I hope not.

Sorry if I was overzealous in my award giving above, lol. I meant no offense.

In my opinion, Prometheus is the closest thing to guaranteed greatness that has come along in quite a while. Ridley Scott has earned my trust. If i could pre-purchase theatre tickets and a blu-ray copy RIGHT NOW, I certainly would.
 
Jeyl said:
In regards to both ALIEN and ALIENS, my money is on the theory that the company didn't know about LV-426 both before and during ALIEN. I think Special Order 937 was one of hundreds of integrated orders built into Ash that kicked in the moment Dallas reported an organism was attached to Kane's face.

When it comes to ALIENS, I think the company somehow got wind of Special Order 937 being initiated after landing on LV-426, but nothing more than that. Rather than conduct a heavy search and rescue for fear of losing "exclusive rights", Weyland Yutani decides to set up a terraforming colony on the planet in hopes of finding the organism. Since the company doesn't know the creature is not indigenous to the planet, all the vague grid searches turn up failures. It's not until Ripley is discovered and makes her report that the company learns that the creature was not indigenous to LV-426 but came from a derelict ship that crashed there. The beacon was most likely shut down due to the derelict being heavily damaged as seen in the Special Edition. Ripley's shuttle probably came with information regarding exactly where the Nostromo landed and how far it was to the derelict. So Burke, with the company's blessings decides to send the colony another grid reference. This time it works. :cool
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I like this. Guess we will see if it fits. Something tells me that Ridley isnt going to spell everything out though. Lucas killed the mystique of "the force" with midichlorians. I think the mysteries around Alien and not quite being sure about some things are what make it worth talking about.
 
I read so many rumors about what Ridley Scott is up to, I cant keep them all straight, much less confirm any.

Is he making two versions, a PG-13 and an R-rated? If so, will both be released in theaters, or is the R version just for blu ray?

3-D conversion for Prometheus?

Re-release of original Blade Runner in theaters for 30th anniversary (and to create interest in upcoming sequel). Possibly converted to 3-D also?
 
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rodneyfaile said:
Is he making two versions, a PG-13 and an R-rated? If so, will both be released in theaters, or is the R version just for blu ray?
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Yes, but not for release, it's apparently to see which one Fox will distribute. Which means the PG-13 version so they can get teenagers to buy tickets. Which is stupid.

Rodneyfaile said:
3-D conversion for Prometheus?
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This one's way off.. it's being shot in 3D. It's real 3D, not that fake bull**** 3D the studios keep pushing on us.

Rodneyfaile said:
Re-release of original Blade Runner in theaters for 30th anniversary (and to create interest in upcoming sequel). Possibly converted to 3-D also?
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That's news to me. A re-release I could see, but probably only a limited one. I haven't heard a thing about conversion, I hope Ridley realizes that conversions suck approximately 100% of the time and anyone who decides to make one should be dragged into the street and shot.
 
Jedi2016, thanks for the info. :thumbsup

Rodney, nah, not at all mate - not a matter for offence; you're as welcome to your view as (I hope) I am to mine. I've been burned enough times with things I really wanted to like, and couldn't, that's all. I'm hopeful, but cautious too.
 
I don't think Ridley will make the same mistakes Lucas made with his prequel. I thank Lucas for bringing us the Star Wars universe. He is a great conceptualist, but I wish he was a better writer. To me it seems he wasn't brave enough to make an all new story and forced characters like R2 and C3PO. I dont see Ripley's dad building the Nostromo.
 
I see what you did there. Fact...this movie will rock.









Curse you Apple auto correct. I of course meant Ridley.
 
Treadwell said:
Concerning FOTR, Jackson has stated he supervised and approved the new timing.
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Yeah, that was the "canned response" I was referring to. The problem is that Jackson really did make some changes, but only to a few scenes, and that's what Warner Bros thinks people are complaining about (not helped at all by the fact that most of the screenshots that demonstrate the difference are from scenes that Jackson really did alter, so they show a greater disparity between versions than the rest of the film). Warner Bros released that statement about "intentional changes" without understanding what the actual problem is.

I will not be satisfied that the change was intentional until I see a video of Peter describing in detail the change (notice I'm referring only to a single change, not a series of scenes that were altered), to confirm that he actually understands the complaint, and then says with his own mouth that yes, it really was intentional. Until then, I'm keeping my money.

I can start another thread if you think it deserves it, where I can demonstrate more clearly what I'm referring to, and it should be quite obvious to everyone that someone seriously screwed up during the mastering/transfer stage of Blu-ray production. And it's possible that the screwup occurred after Peter's revisions and approval of the master.
 
Jedi2016 said:
Yeah, that was the "canned response" I was referring to. The problem is that Jackson really did make some changes, but only to a few scenes
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No, an entirely new DI was struck from the o-neg. That requires recoloring the entire film from scratch. Such is done with the director's, and/or cinematographer's supervision whenever possible. And Jackson's not one to palm off that kind of thing.
 
Look, Middle Earth is obviously part of the Matrix.
Dragons? Magic rings? Sorcerers? Orcs? AGENTS.

It *should* be green. /endthread
 
Treadwell said:
No, an entirely new DI was struck from the o-neg. That requires recoloring the entire film from scratch. Such is done with the director's, and/or cinematographer's supervision whenever possible. And Jackson's not one to palm off that kind of thing.
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I'll start a new thread.
 
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