Replica Hoth(ish) goggles WIP

3DImpact

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Once I had my tauntaun hanging on my wall I decided I needed a nice Hoth trooper hat and googles to display as well. Of course, we all know how near impossible it is to find an actual pair of vintage Swans ski goggles so I decided I'd have to settle for the best match I could find and then adapt them to match the on-screen look as best I could. That turned into a whole project on its own. As a reminder, here is some reference for the actual Swans goggles:

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I rather rapidly found an acceptable match in overall shape and features but with the major exception that the visor plastic itself was far too deep a yellow color. I'd have to make a new visor with a more proper tint.

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The color grading in ESB is notoriously variable and confusing but averaging from shot to shot and looking at other photo reference of actual Swans I decided to aim for an olive tint, not too saturated. But first, I had to vac form the new visor itself. The first step to that was to make a buck from the actual visor from the goggles. I thought through the process a bit and decided that I needed to vac the new acrylic down to a buck made across the inner surface of the original visor, so that the thickness and curvature of the new visor would match. I built a clay 'dam' around the original visor and made a plaster buck from that.

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The vac forming itself took a bit of trial and error to find the right combo of acrylic thickness and heat time, but with my friend Jim Arthurs' help we made some beautiful copies.

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Here's some video of the vac forming process:


The next step was dyeing the newly minted visors to the right olive tint. I used a mix of yellow and green and brown iDye Poly. Once dyed to the proper tint I cut and trimmed the new visors to match the original.

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Then some 3D-modeled and laser-cut pieces to add onto the vintage goggles in order to match the foam vents and strap holders on the Swans as best I could:

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Once all assembled I have a pair of goggles that I think will be 'good enough' when finally displayed with my Hoth trooper hat.

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Hopefully, someday someone will be able to make a good copy from an actual vintage Swans - I'm sure that's a production run a lot of us would support...

Dan
 
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Thanks! It's still WIP and there are some things to fix and adjust but once I get this onto the Hoth trooper hat and apply the snow effects I think it'll make a fine enough display piece. This was a case, though, I think, where the journey was more important/fun than the destination...

Dan
 
I only know of a few real goggles in the hands of this community..a blue set owned by Chris T. and a white set in my posession

Indy Magnoli was playing with the idea to do a run!
 
I think we should all encourage Indy Magnoli to do this project, I have suggested it to them, not knowing just how many people want these goggles. It's kind of a must...
 
Love these. I wish I had just an ounce of the skills you have. I can barely glue stuff together let alone vac form!
 
Once I had my tauntaun hanging on my wall I decided I needed a nice Hoth trooper hat and googles to display as well. Of course, we all know how near impossible it is to find an actual pair of vintage Swans ski goggles so I decided I'd have to settle for the best match I could find and then adapt them to match the on-screen look as best I could. That turned into a whole project on its own. As a reminder, here is some reference for the actual Swans goggles:

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I rather rapidly found an acceptable match in overall shape and features but with the major exception that the visor plastic itself was far too deep a yellow color. I'd have to make a new visor with a more proper tint.

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The color grading in ESB is notoriously variable and confusing but averaging from shot to shot and looking at other photo reference of actual Swans I decided to aim for an olive tint, not too saturated. But first, I had to vac form the new visor itself. The first step to that was to make a buck from the actual visor from the goggles. I thought through the process a bit and decided that I needed to vac the new acrylic down to a buck made across the inner surface of the original visor, so that the thickness and curvature of the new visor would match. I built a clay 'dam' around the original visor and made a plaster buck from that.

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The vac forming itself took a bit of trial and error to find the right combo of acrylic thickness and heat time, but with my friend Jim Arthurs' help we made some beautiful copies.

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Here's some video of the vac forming process:


The next step was dyeing the newly minted visors to the right olive tint. I used a mix of yellow and green and brown iDye Poly. Once dyed to the proper tint I cut and trimmed the new visors to match the original.

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Then some 3D-modeled and laser-cut pieces to add onto the vintage goggles in order to match the foam vents and strap holders on the Swans as best I could:

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Once all assembled I have a pair of goggles that I think will be 'good enough' when finally displayed with my Hoth trooper hat.

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Hopefully, someday someone will be able to make a good copy from an actual vintage Swans - I'm sure that's a production run a lot of us would support...

Dan
Hey 3Dimpact,
I just got these on etsy. I was wondering if you had any extra molds of the round vents and the blue and red top pieces? You did an amazing job on yours. I can't tell if lukes goggles say Swans on the top or not.
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Great attention to detail.

I haz an original blue pair painted white and a black set unpainted. Both for sale.
 
I've had a few people ask offline if I could share my 3D model for the blue vent pieces. I have a few items up on Shapeways but this particular item always gave me pause since I designed and scaled them to fit the exact set of googles that I had. And I've only ever seen one pair of those particular vintage goggles so I don't think a set-scale model up on Shapeways would be particularly useful for folks. So, in the spirit of sharing here in our RPF family I've just put the .stl file online for you to download here:

Hoth(ish) goggles blue vent bits

'Buyer' beware: you will likely have to scale and possibly reshape these a bit to fit your particular found googles. I don't claim these to be screen-accurate to scale for the actual vintage goggles, I simply made them to look the part on the one-off set of vintage goggles I had happened to find at the time.

Have fun and share how yours turn out...

Dan
 
I've had a few people ask offline if I could share my 3D model for the blue vent pieces. I have a few items up on Shapeways but this particular item always gave me pause since I designed and scaled them to fit the exact set of googles that I had. And I've only ever seen one pair of those particular vintage goggles so I don't think a set-scale model up on Shapeways would be particularly useful for folks. So, in the spirit of sharing here in our RPF family I've just put the .stl file online for you to download here:

Hoth(ish) goggles blue vent bits

'Buyer' beware: you will likely have to scale and possibly reshape these a bit to fit your particular found googles. I don't claim these to be screen-accurate to scale for the actual vintage goggles, I simply made them to look the part on the one-off set of vintage goggles I had happened to find at the time.

Have fun and share how yours turn out...

Dan
That makes perfect sense. I appreciate you getting back to me. Would you happen to know what the original part is by chance?
 
That makes perfect sense. I appreciate you getting back to me. Would you happen to know what the original part is by chance?

Oh, those blue vent pieces with the dark red foam are actually an integral part of the original vintage Swans ski goggles design. They are not an 'add-on' greeblie in other words, part of the actual goggles. The topmost image in this thread is an image of those vintage goggles for reference.

Dan
 
Oh, those blue vent pieces with the dark red foam are actually an integral part of the original vintage Swans ski goggles design. They are not an 'add-on' greeblie in other words, part of the actual goggles. The topmost image in this thread is an image of those vintage goggles for reference.

Dan
The swans goggles I just got are the closest I have found. They say swans on the top. Thanks for letting me know about the parts. I love the rpf. Did you make the plain white strap or did it come with the goggles?
 
Did you make the plain white strap or did it come with the goggles?

I made the strap from a piece of elastic band that I either purchased at the local craft store or online (I can't remember now). I picked it to have the same apparent width and look as the original Swans from the reference photo.

Dan
 
Once I had my tauntaun hanging on my wall I decided I needed a nice Hoth trooper hat and googles to display as well. Of course, we all know how near impossible it is to find an actual pair of vintage Swans ski goggles so I decided I'd have to settle for the best match I could find and then adapt them to match the on-screen look as best I could. That turned into a whole project on its own. As a reminder, here is some reference for the actual Swans goggles:

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I rather rapidly found an acceptable match in overall shape and features but with the major exception that the visor plastic itself was far too deep a yellow color. I'd have to make a new visor with a more proper tint.

View attachment 989103

The color grading in ESB is notoriously variable and confusing but averaging from shot to shot and looking at other photo reference of actual Swans I decided to aim for an olive tint, not too saturated. But first, I had to vac form the new visor itself. The first step to that was to make a buck from the actual visor from the goggles. I thought through the process a bit and decided that I needed to vac the new acrylic down to a buck made across the inner surface of the original visor, so that the thickness and curvature of the new visor would match. I built a clay 'dam' around the original visor and made a plaster buck from that.

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The vac forming itself took a bit of trial and error to find the right combo of acrylic thickness and heat time, but with my friend Jim Arthurs' help we made some beautiful copies.

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Here's some video of the vac forming process:


The next step was dyeing the newly minted visors to the right olive tint. I used a mix of yellow and green and brown iDye Poly. Once dyed to the proper tint I cut and trimmed the new visors to match the original.

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Then some 3D-modeled and laser-cut pieces to add onto the vintage goggles in order to match the foam vents and strap holders on the Swans as best I could:

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Once all assembled I have a pair of goggles that I think will be 'good enough' when finally displayed with my Hoth trooper hat.

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Hopefully, someday someone will be able to make a good copy from an actual vintage Swans - I'm sure that's a production run a lot of us would support...

Dan
What foam did you use for the padding? I have a later model swans that is very similar but has black padding. I want to replace it with the tan or yellow type stuff.
 

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