REAL STERLING owners

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by Durasteel Corporation, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. Durasteel Corporation

    Durasteel Corporation Well-Known Member

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    If you do, got a question for you.

    I am rebuilding my sterling. As most know, I have a metal shop, weld etc, so the rebuild isnt that hard. Its taken some fascinating extrapolation and Ive needed to think 'backwards' to rebuild this thing in order to use the original tube....but...I noticed rather odd when comparing what I presume to be the correct assembly and hence length cocking pin slot.

    While looking at some resin sterling blueprints I got years ago (which were supposed to be accurate) I noticed that the cocking slot was shorter by about a quarter inch than my reconstruction.

    now I havent done the final welding, but everything seems to align very nicely.....the swing arm butt piece clip attaches very securely in the front of the gun and those two stubs on the swing arm attach firmly in the pin/butt piece (and it locks well).

    But ...what I cant figure out is why the cocking pin slot WOULD SEEM to be about a quarter inch longer in my reconstruction in which the swing arm works and fits well....vs....the supposed accurate blueprints.

    Er, so...what Im asking for is if anyone who owns an original uncut sterling (never cut apart) can give me a really accurate length of the cocking pin slot.

    * that took a lot of text to get to my point. :lol


    Ill post pictures when Im finished...thanks so much guys.

    Drew
     
  2. Sporak

    Sporak Sr Member Gone but not forgotten.

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    There's only one guy I know of... ;)

    No, not me...
     
  3. CMANavy

    CMANavy Sr Member

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    Carefull. By rewelding that reciever you can get into some serious Doo-Doo with the BATF. Like illeagal Machien gun with a mandatory 10 year sentance.
     
  4. Durasteel Corporation

    Durasteel Corporation Well-Known Member

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    Nah, the interal elements of the gun are modified....full weight and guts and all, but Ive been careful to make 'smart' mods.
     
  5. exoray

    exoray Master Member

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    Just be aware that it's a fine line as the receiver (tube) IS the gun void of what is inside, if the receiver is intact and can be loaded with functional parts it's a gun...
     
  6. DARKSIDE72

    DARKSIDE72 Sr Member

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    Exactly.

    It's really not a fine line though. A whole un-cut receiver is illegal, such as the ones Parks was selling. They had a few junk welds on the inside which were easily removed.
     
  7. skyit

    skyit Well-Known Member

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    is there around a Sterling Mk4/L2A3 toy replica?
    i couldnt find anything (just a soft air dismissed some years ago or 1/4 scale replica)
     
  8. Matsuo

    Matsuo Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Got one at the shop...I'll get back to you on it.... Shoots real bullets and everything.

    If I can't get in today I'll give them a call and get it over the phone.

    EDIT:
    Here it is..

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    *Thanks Wackychimp*

    M
     
  9. Durasteel Corporation

    Durasteel Corporation Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to everyone who is helping out.....Ive had this sterling kit for years and am so excited to finally piece the puzzle together....its the puzzle of parts I find so interesting.


    As for the final piece....again, I have thought through this very carefully. There are numerous ways to reconstruct the sterling such that its visible intact but can never fire.

    Yet on that note....anything can be made to fire again...just a question of patience and metal/machining skills. Thats the reality of things. My objective is to make as reasonably acceptable as any other reconstructed "non" firing firearm. Ive got an old neighbor friend in the FBI who has given me some advice too, thankfully.
     
  10. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

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    My Sterling Deac's slot is 163mm (6.42") long and it's an English Deac. so the tube has never been cut.

    SAS
     
  11. Durasteel Corporation

    Durasteel Corporation Well-Known Member

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    Indeed that is what Ive been told thus far. I figured hereunto that the slot in the supposed resin blueprints was accurate.....not so....it was nearly a half inch too short.


    But with yall help Ive gotten more done on this thing in less than 3 hours than ever before...


    I am rebuilding it such that the original tube is used, ie, Im piecing it together instead of soldering on the parts which is never as strong as a weld.

    The welding is tricky no doubt. When welding I have to cut out V notches to fill in witht the MIG....and then still be careful not to accidently weld the inner mandrel tube that helps hold the parts together. Its tricky but I think the resulting piece will be well worth the effort....much closer to the original as the parts are original.
     
  12. wuher da brewer

    wuher da brewer Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I saw a civilian semi-automatic version that was very close to the L2A3. The difference being it had an extended barrel and barrel nut, different rear sight, and it was missing the front fingerguard. I don't know if accurizing it with the correct barrel tip and no extension would make it illegal or not.
     
  13. CMANavy

    CMANavy Sr Member

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    It would. Any rilfe/carbine with a barrel under 16 inches is considerd a SBR (shor barreled Rifle) and is a class II weapon. They are still buildable but you have to go through the same process is ifyou were getting another class III weapon (ie, Automatic/Machine gun, Sub-gun, Silencers etc.)
     
  14. exoray

    exoray Master Member

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    A barrel less then 16" is a Class III (SBR) not Class II, probably a typo on your part... If you want to build a Class III you need to first find a registered reciever that was registered before they were outlawed (going price for a registerd Sterling tube is about $7000+ if you can find one) or you need to be a Class II manufacture building a dealer sample for sale to law enforcement/government agencys and jumping through a bunch of hoops, time and money...

    The Sterling MK 6 is a US legal non Class III firearm, it fires closed bolt and only fires semi, and has the legal longer barrel (optional dummy short barrel/front cap for display) other then that it is pretty much identical to the MK4 (L2A3) in appearance... There is also the US knock-off versions from PAWS, they differ greatly from the real thing both in appearance and workings...
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    And here is the MK 6 with the dummy barrel...
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  15. CMANavy

    CMANavy Sr Member

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    Oops, I ment to type "III" butter fingers.
     
  16. Jimbo890

    Jimbo890 Well-Known Member

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    Where can you get these? Are they still imported?
     
  17. exoray

    exoray Master Member

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    Sterling is gone...

    Ask around at your local gun stores and see if they can secure one, or browse online auctions they pop up every so often... But, beware people will try and pass off the PAWS knock off as the real deal, also expect to pay a pretty penny...
     
  18. skyit

    skyit Well-Known Member

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    what i cant soffer is that i may find very easily an MP40 toy for 19,95$ (even airsoft at that price..) but no MK4/6 L2A3 sterling..

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    i could find only 1/6 scale..
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    if someone start a massive toy production of the sterling i am sure they get their $$$..
     
  19. Durasteel Corporation

    Durasteel Corporation Well-Known Member

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    I am working on it.


    Also planning on offering legal rebuild services using original outer barrel pieces so its as close to its original look as possible. :)
     

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