Questions About Bond Films that You Have been Afraid to Ask SPOILERS

[Michael Bergeron]

See above. :lol

You're right, my post was awesome. :cool

Semantics. Moore's Bond was a know-it-all, that is what I was trying to convey. Call it what you like.

Ain't no semantics!

I don't see that as shooting myself down. Moore was a know-it-all in M's company to M's disdain. I am only holding the Moore films as an example of the Moore films :lol

Then I think we're debating two different things. Moore films are an example of Moore's Bond of course, but it isn't Bond as he was written or intended and there are 7 films and 14 books that back up that point. Call it an "evolution" of the character if you want but it's really just a watering down of him.

Well they either 1. Didn't get it or 2. Didn't find it funny. It was intended to be funny. Maybe not slap your knee funny, but it was a gag dude.

#2. I never said it wasn't intended to be funny while at the same time providing the entire backstory.

And I am the one shooting myself down? Yes it was a comedic thing. Are we debating here or just saying the same thing in different ways? :lol

Gonna go with saying the same thing in different ways I think. Damn internet... In person we'd probably be agreeing about 99% of this...

Agree as far as I said I didn't mind it. Your argument that it didn't need to be funny is different than when you said it wasn't meant to be funny. Granted I never said I loved it either. I said it fit the Moore Bond. Personally, I too find it a little hard to believe Bond would know what a Red Lion fish's scientific name would be, but I didn't mind that side of his character. As you later say, maybe he memorized a few of the indigenous fish. Maybe that list wasn't too long in that area.

Never said it wasn't meant to be funny.

Smart Aleck's and Pompous tarts are often bedfellows. Again semantics.

Not unless you're Oscar Wilde.

I merely judged Moore by Moore's standards, nothing more.

Then you judged him by very low standards indeed!

The Moore films are sometimes silly and campy, a function of the times. I still love them though.

Sometimes? SOMETIMES? :lol

I love all Bond, all the time. To me, Bond is who is in every film. I said it before, I like what each person brought to their roles. I am weird in that I never took sides. To me, my enjoyment of the films isn't this Bond vs. that Bond, I like em all. And within each Actor's movies, I have my favorites:

Connery: GF
Moore: LALD
Dalton: TLD
Brosnan: GE
Craig: SF

To an extent I agree. However I've found that the only way I can enjoy the Moore films is to look at them as comedies with the odd serious moment. This kills me inside though because although I can enjoy them they are not what a Bond film should be.

Never really disagreed. I'd prefer Bond to be less silly too. I kind of ignore the silly parts. Like California Girls playing in AVTAK, etc.

In Moore's films they are REALLY hard to ignore...

Mike, I have every scene memorized. If I watched these movies any more times, my head would pop. Which scene do you want retyped from memory?

I'm starting to think we should start a thread where we begin with Dr. No and line for line type the script and see who the first to falter is. I could make it up to the end of FYEO without a mistake I'm pretty sure. No word of a lie thanks to my Dad I knew Bond before I knew Santa.

The fight scenes def. involved the camera more, stylistically. That could lend itself to what I am saying about being explosive too. Hunt gives the camera a lot of motion during the scenes. I can see why some people might call it sloppy, but it was intentional. Very Bourne before Bourne actually.

It's the same "sloppiness" you see in Connery's fights in FRWL, GF, and TB. I didn't mean sloppy in a bad way, just much more realistic in it's portrayal than contemporary films. Agree with the Bourne before Bourne thing.

And I think we are at an impasse about Kirk and Connery obviously having the same trainer. :lol :thumbsup KIDNEY CHOP!

I've used the kidney chop in a fight. You'd be surprised at how effective it is.

That's pretty balzy don't you think? And I hope you know what I mean. Compare her to the demeanor of sweet voiced Domino. (Who's voice is nearly every Connery Bond girl :lol)

Domino was a little girl. She's clearly not who we're talking about.

I considered Galore, but she was on the other team for most of the film man, albeit subtly for the times. Maybe Bond would have had a chance to develop his feelings more if she wasn't so damn immune to his charm. Even though they seem to get physical in the final scene, and she gives him a try, she was gay. ("I must have appealed to her...maternal instincts")

But she was a Bond girl, so generally, yes, she was no dainty flower. I was referring to love interests.

She totally counts, especially if you're including Volpe.

Paula popping a pill was balzy too, but she was no Tracy. Oh and the fact that they NEVER slept together on screen, nor were shown romantically linked beside her crossed look at Volpe in the room, is another reason why she is a terrible example :lol

Tracy ends up swooning for him even while he's banging everyone in the complex so I'm not sure how you can say either Galore or Paula succumb in a way that she doesn't. Even though they aren't romantically linked I still say Paula counts. You were asking for strong women, I gave you two GREAT examples. Popping a pill so that she wouldn't talk was way balzyer than a rich girl wanting to make a scene of her suicide. Tracy is a spoiled brat that needs taming. That's her character.

In what department? :cool

In this case? Womanizing. Something that I'm not proud to say I had a little experience in. Not going into details but by the time I met my wife I saw women as things to be used. I was with her for two years before I told her I loved her. She's a hell of a woman. Minus the whole international spy thing I was very much emotionally where Bond should have been at the start of the film. Now, over the course of a movie you can't show 2 years pass but ease into it a bit!

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I am picking a new fight, so get ready. :lol

Round 2! lol:lol

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Ah, the good Mr. Solo. So nice of you to join us! I hope you don't have a pressing engagement... :lol

One of the big splits in Bond fans is people who prefer the literary version (a killer, ruthless, more emotional while trying to be cold, knowledge of "the good life" but not a walking encyclopedia) and those who prefer the cinematic version (a quipper, lots of gadgets, suave, sophisticated, knows a lot about a lot, nonchalant in most cases, etc.).

Personally, I far prefer literary Bond, which is why I find the sillier and more over-the-top entries to be frustrating to watch. Granted, even at their worst, they're still kinda fun in their own way, but to me, the franchise is at its absolute best in films like Dr. No, FRWL, OHMSS, FYEO, TLD, and CR (and most recently Skyfall). Those films, to me, are SO much better than the sillier/campier/over-the-top entries that they end up ultimately undermining what are otherwise entertaining romps with a few really bad puns and some neat if implausible gadgets.

I've noticed that, with the actors who had longer runs in the role, the tendency was to start with a cracking good performance, and end with a particularly bad one where they'd clearly outlived the role and were being used largely for box-office draw from the name, and because the producers either couldn't secure a better new lead, or were too scared to roll the dice on one.

Just quoted you for truth man! :thumbsup

 

[thegreatgalling]

Ah, the good Mr. Solo. So nice of you to join us! I hope you don't have a pressing engagement... :lol

Perfect. :lol

 

[Solo4114]

Typical Moore era humor.




(YES I KNOW IT'S FROM GOLDFINGER, DAMMIT.)

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Typical Moore era humor.




(YES I KNOW IT'S FROM GOLDFINGER, DAMMIT.)

lollol

 

[Caveneau]

Whoa. You guys guys are heavy. I can hardly keep up with this and I almost feel I should beopcorn, in the most possible friendliest way of course.

Don't mind me, office xmas dinner and I'm ever so slightly touched.:cheers

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Don't mind me, office xmas dinner and I'm ever so slightly touched.:cheers

thumbsup

 

[KojiroVance]

Hand bags at dawn, ladies.


... I had several thoughts and points in a draft message yesterday, but closed Firefox by accident. As The Joker says, "And ... it's gone!" Will have to write more from California... (Or on the Jetstar.)

Meantime I'll leave you with this. With love.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Ooooo...

Love me some FRWL props!

 

[KojiroVance]

I buy that Bond "knows stuff" because part of his job is reading endless briefs. Fleming started a novel with this once. (Yesyes, we're talking films, but the character didnt spring from Young's psyche whole cloth. He just perfected it for film.) That he would be familiar with A-bombs, and even recognize Mr. Ling, doesnt faze me. Particularly in that era.... Familiarity with the world's most expensive hitman, who'd killed a colleague, sure. In LALD, making expert espresso with a then uncommon maker (1973, mind, before Melitta democratized gourmet coffee), amusing and in character. In TB (novel) he explains that fine dining is one of his few luxuries when travelling a lot; I believe him expecting great cuppa Joe at home (and Miss Caruso would appreciate it!).

In OHMSS, I never buy that Bond knows butterfly taxonomy like an expert. Showing off to M when he's actually come to the man's home, uninvited(?), to request his mission be reactivated,... gah. There are 3 or 4 lines in that film I prefer to mute. Stopping to enjoy a bite of the caviar he's bought after kicking some guy's a--, ok; quipping about it to show off, no. With some of the overdubs muted he's more of a quiet, self-possessed agent, more my liking. I got that from DC's performance in CR. Moore's films crept inexorably towards rivaling Charles Feldman's CR. Ray guns and spacesuits?? I gagged, then and now.

More later, my flight 's boarding....

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[thegreatgalling]

I buy that Bond "knows stuff" because part of his job is reading endless briefs. Fleming started a novel with this once. (Yesyes, we're talking films, but the character didnt spring from Young's psyche whole cloth. He just perfected it for film.) That he would be familiar with A-bombs, and even recognize Mr. Ling, doesnt faze me. Particularly in that era.... Familiarity with the world's most expensive hitman, who'd killed a colleague, sure. In LALD, making expert espresso with a then uncommon maker (1973, mind, before Melitta democratized gourmet coffee), amusing and in character. In TB (novel) he explains that fine dining is one of his few luxuries when travelling a lot; I believe him expecting great cuppa Joe at home (and Miss Caruso would appreciate it!).

Love this. Absolutely agree.

In OHMSS, I never buy that Bond knows butterfly taxonomy like an expert. Showing off to M when he's actually come to the man's home, uninvited(?), to request his mission be reactivated,... gah.

Yeah, that line is pretty unbelievable. I reconcile it as Bond either has an equal interest in butterflies (hey it's possible) or knows about it from a previous mission.

There are 3 or 4 lines in that film I prefer to mute. Stopping to enjoy a bite of the caviar he's bought after kicking some guy's a--, ok; quipping about it to show off, no.

It's funny you named that example, that's one of my favorite lines in the film. I think it shows a couple of things, namely that he compartmentalizes so well that he can kick the **** out of someone and shrug it off like it was nothing - I also think it shows a touch of pomposity that worked for Lazenby. The delivery is also just funny to me. I like that line for some reason, but good point. Besides, he's talking to himself! :lol

With some of the overdubs muted he's more of a quiet, self-possessed agent, more my liking. I got that from DC's performance in CR. Moore's films crept inexorably towards rivaling Charles Feldman's CR. Ray guns and spacesuits?? I gagged, then and now.

They are certainly far more silly than I like Bond movies to be. Glad Dalton reined in the camp. By FYEO, you almost expected to hear a laugh track and some moments. :lol I was also glad CR stopped the Brosnan films shortly after spiraling out of control too.

More later, my flight 's boarding....

Safe flight!!

 

[Master Dahark]

It's funny you named that example, that's one of my favorite lines in the film. I think it shows a couple of things, namely that he compartmentalizes so well that he can kick the **** out of someone and shrug it off like it was nothing - I also think it shows a touch of pomposity that worked for Lazenby. The delivery is also just funny to me. I like that line for some reason, but good point. Besides, he's talking to himself!

I love the fact that he's stuffing his face with the stuff while saying the line! OHMSS is full of funny/bad dubbing! :lol

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I love the fact that he's stuffing his face with the stuff while saying the line! OHMSS is full of funny/bad dubbing! :lol

Quite a few of the Bond films are. :lol

 

[KojiroVance]

Ooooo...

Love me some FRWL props!

I have had a particularly fascinating life, would you like to hear about it?

Looking for some Orient Express or Istanbul artifacts... Probably out of my budget range. These are all mine or family heirlooms.

FRWL, my fave, as everybody's. I think it's because it has layers of mystery and suspense, and plot developments that Make Sense(TM). Many subsequent films in the series tried to recycle the tropes, but without the sense and realism. E. g. Jaws... really? When Karim is found dead, it has significance, Bond has truly lost a friend ("How can one be in debt to a friend? "). When Ferrare dies in FYEO, yeah bummer whatever, on with the mission.

I think with the first two films they weren't quite a "series" yet, so less compulsion to "follow the recipe." GOLDFINGER became a recipe, repeated oh so many times. One reason that I enjoy but don't revere it as much as some. Despite Guy Hamilton doing an outstanding job, I can see all the commercialism in its plot.

Why I don't like Bond here? After the golden, filmic adoration of Miss Nolan's bod, its one failure after another. Told to OBSERVE the target without knowing the objective, he makes contact, humiliates him, steals away the guy's escort, gets her killed (how Oddjob knows Bond's room, dunno, but dont let realism spoil a great scene).

Gets testy with M despite being in the penalty box for good reason, hardly distinguished behaviour. When we hear what he's supposed to be doing, his escapade in Miami looks pretty silly, doesn't it.

Repeats it at the golf course, without the dead girl this time (gets a statue beheaded instead). Goldfinger suitably, and frankly understandably, teed off (sorry, my inner Bond had to quip). Cover blown, target's suspicions aroused, about all Bond CAN do is observe him. Tilly crosses his path, and instead of getting her safely out of it ... another dead girl. And even with the most super colossal car bristling with offensive and defensive weaponry, gets caught, vanquished by a bloody mirror. C'mon Jimmy, shoot the hausfrau with the machine gun, what's another dead femme?

After convincing the target that he's worth keeping around, he comes up against a woman who a) doesn't just roll over to his charms, b) is in charge, and c) would just as soon see him snuff it as freshen her lipstick. Nice role reversal.... But Bond has to fix THAT state of affairs... by date-raping her. I know it was 1964, so what. Lovely. (Edit: Not. Being sarcastic here. I can't see the Bond of TSWLM (novel) doing that.)

His attempt to tip off Felix might've worked, okay. But who REALLY upsets Goldfinger's scheme? *****. Because Bond boinked her. Putting HER in jeopardy. Gimme a break!


There's a great quote in the book, They have a saying in Chicago, Mr Bond...." I apply it to the film's story. Sure it's fun, but the specific plot points that make up the film unsettle me. Spoils the fun for me - a little.

Just one very slanted interpretation, delivered with tongue firmly in one cheek.
Agent Vance, transiting Chicago (MDW)

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[Michael Bergeron]

I have had a particularly fascinating life, would you like to hear about it?

Nice! However you'll recall from that scene those end up being his last words... lol

Looking for some Orient Express or Istanbul artifacts... Probably out of my budget range. These are all mine or family heirlooms.

Very cool dude!

FRWL, my fave, as everybody's. I think it's because it has layers of mystery and suspense, and plot developments that Make Sense(TM). Many subsequent films in the series tried to recycle the tropes, but without the sense and realism. E. g. Jaws... really? When Karim is found dead, it has significance, Bond has truly lost a friend ("How can one be in debt to a friend? "). When Ferrare dies in FYEO, yeah bummer whatever, on with the mission.

Very close second for me and arguably the best spy film ever made. Agree with each of your points here. :thumbsup

I think with the first two films they weren't quite a "series" yet, so less compulsion to "follow the recipe." GOLDFINGER became a recipe, repeated oh so many times. One reason that I enjoy but don't revere it as much as some. Despite Guy Hamilton doing an outstanding job, I can see all the commercialism in its plot.

Agree and disagree. While Goldfinger BECAME the recipe it was new and fresh when it first aired. It was because it was so great that future films tried to copy it so much. While FRWL is arguably the best SPY FILM ever made I would say with conviction that GF is the best BOND FILM ever made. Is it a concrete story about a spy? Perhaps not, but damn does it ever show off Bond.

Why I don't like Bond here? After the golden, filmic adoration of Miss Nolan's bod, its one failure after another. Told to OBSERVE the target without knowing the objective, he makes contact, humiliates him, steals away the guy's escort, gets her killed (how Oddjob knows Bond's room, dunno, but dont let realism spoil a great scene).

He's cocky and wants to stir up the situation. If he hadn't have done that there would be nothing to observe. And it isn't unbelievable that they knew his room. Those things can be found out fairly easily. For instance, surely Jill would have been followed.

Gets testy with M despite being in the penalty box for good reason, hardly distinguished behaviour. When we hear what he's supposed to be doing, his escapade in Miami looks pretty silly, doesn't it.

He doesn't get testy I don't think, not really. But yes, Miami looks a little silly.

Repeats it at the golf course, without the dead girl this time (gets a statue beheaded instead). Goldfinger suitably, and frankly understandably, teed off (sorry, my inner Bond had to quip). Cover blown, target's suspicions aroused, about all Bond CAN do is observe him. Tilly crosses his path, and instead of getting her safely out of it ... another dead girl. And even with the most super colossal car bristling with offensive and defensive weaponry, gets caught, vanquished by a bloody mirror. C'mon Jimmy, shoot the hausfrau with the machine gun, what's another dead femme?

Until he finds Tilly in the woods he thinks she's a part of it so it's hardly fair to say that he's responsible for that death. When he does realize he tries to save her. And who wants to kill someone's grandma? :lol

After convincing the target that he's worth keeping around, he comes up against a woman who a) doesn't just roll over to his charms, b) is in charge, and c) would just as soon see him snuff it as freshen her lipstick. Nice role reversal.... But Bond has to fix THAT state of affairs... by date-raping her. I know it was 1964, so what. Lovely.

Dude...

His attempt to tip off Felix might've worked, okay. But who REALLY upsets Goldfinger's scheme? *****. Because Bond boinked her. Putting HER in jeopardy. Gimme a break!

"Putting her in jeopardy" Really? You do realize she's complicit in the plot right? Don't think he cares nor should he.

Just one very slanted interpretation, delivered with tongue firmly in one cheek.

Very slanted indeed! :lol Good read though. :thumbsup

 

[KojiroVance]

Very slanted indeed! :lol Good read though. :thumbsup

Thank you, thank you.

Very close second for me and arguably the best spy film ever made. Agree with each of your points here. :thumbsup

I used to think that T. Young, in each of his films, made uniquely different kinds of spy movies, or Bond films if you will.

Agree and disagree. While Goldfinger BECAME the recipe it was new and fresh when it first aired. It was because it was so great that future films tried to copy it so much. While FRWL is arguably the best SPY FILM ever made I would say with conviction that GF is the best BOND FILM ever made. Is it a concrete story about a spy? Perhaps not, but damn does it ever show off Bond.

Oh, YES. And some bits are, um, sorry, "golden." One of my favs is his starting ti chase down Tilly, I believe that was from OHMSS (novel) when Tracy passes him on the road to Royale Les Eaus(?). Then catches himself, "Discipline, oh-oh-seven, discipline."

It was also the first certified, intentional, blockbuster. Huge success. So OF COURSE they tried to recapture the magic.

Making Peter Hunt's gambit to break continuity and do OHMSS straight that much more impressive to me.

He's cocky and wants to stir up the situation. If he hadn't have done that there would be nothing to observe. And it isn't unbelievable that they knew his room. Those things can be found out fairly easily. For instance, surely Jill would have been followed.

My BS detector just went into the red. "Stir things up?" On whose orders? Observe what? The target going to ground and increasing secrecy? Wow, yeah, brilliant strategy.

I do admit it wouldn't be tough to bribe the maitre d'hotel, "Do you have any a--hole, womanizing Brits in the hotel?" "Oh yes sir, there's only one that answers to that description.... "

Mind, we're talking about a MOVIE.

He doesn't get testy I don't think, not really. But yes, Miami looks a little silly.

"... Sir, I am prepared to continue in the spirit you suggest,... if I KNEW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT." Watch it again. He's irritated, and lets it show. Doesn't throw his toys out of the pram or resign in protest though.

Until he finds Tilly in the woods he thinks she's a part of it so it's hardly fair to say that he's responsible for that death. When he does realize he tries to save her.

There is no 'try,' do or do not. And our man does not.

And who wants to kill someone's grandma? :lol

If she's unloading Grandma's little fully automatic helper into the windscreen right in front of my face, you bet I would.

Okay, maybe I'd open up with my own first, as a friendly warning shot across her murderous, substantial prow. ;-)

"Putting her in jeopardy" Really? You do realize she's complicit in the plot right? Don't think he cares nor should he.

Great point.

Yeah, she's really "the opposition." Granny's precious cargo, *****'s a fair target. I get it. LMAO


Christmas airline travel. God help me, where's my cyanide tablet....

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[thegreatgalling]

FRWL, my fave, as everybody's. I think it's because it has layers of mystery and suspense, and plot developments that Make Sense(TM). Many subsequent films in the series tried to recycle the tropes, but without the sense and realism. E. g. Jaws... really? When Karim is found dead, it has significance, Bond has truly lost a friend ("How can one be in debt to a friend? "). When Ferrare dies in FYEO, yeah bummer whatever, on with the mission.

This is why I liked Bond's relationship with Mathis a lot in QoS. How that is handled reminded me of Karim Bey.

Off topic, QoS also has one of my absolute favorite scenes in any Bond movies. I know I posted about this before, but seeing Bond so emotional, and then pick up Mathis...and throw him right in the trash. - couldn't have illustrated Bond's compartmentalization skills any better. He gives himself that moment, and moves on for the mission. "The ***** is dead." Same for how Bond squeezes Karim's arm in FRWL, takes his belongings for his sons (and also to purge his identity) and leaves him.

I absolutely agree the chemistry between Ferrara and Moore Bond wasn't on the same level, but I have always been fond of Moore's performance during the Vijay scene in OP. I am referring to when Bond kneels next to him after he finds him dead and whispers, "No more problems." Very touching. I also liked how Moore gets visibly ANGRY when he discovers Tibbett killed in AVTAK- one of the most cold looks Moore offers in the gambit of his performance.

I think with the first two films they weren't quite a "series" yet, so less compulsion to "follow the recipe." GOLDFINGER became a recipe, repeated oh so many times. One reason that I enjoy but don't revere it as much as some. Despite Guy Hamilton doing an outstanding job, I can see all the commercialism in its plot.

Very interesting take on it.

Why I don't like Bond here? After the golden, filmic adoration of Miss Nolan's bod, its one failure after another. Told to OBSERVE the target without knowing the objective, he makes contact, humiliates him, steals away the guy's escort, gets her killed (how Oddjob knows Bond's room, dunno, but dont let realism spoil a great scene).

Some missions in the Bond films are like that. I kind of appreciate the varying degrees of success. If you think about it, Bond almost COMPLETELY fails in Diamonds are Forever. He is too slow to stop the nukes from being destroyed, fails to switch the satellite codes, gets Plenty O'tool wrapped up in the situation for no reason besides his selfsh pursuits, and basically stands there as a prisoner until the Americans lead their assault against the Rig.

In FYEO, Bond fails his mission to return the ATAC to England (but he has good reason).

Here, Bond makes a terrible mistake. But like OB says, used his judgment to incite Goldfinger to reveal his hand so to speak. Unfortunately, the decision did cost Masterson her life - Much like Bond's decision costs Dufour her life in Moonraker.

Gets testy with M despite being in the penalty box for good reason, hardly distinguished behaviour. When we hear what he's supposed to be doing, his escapade in Miami looks pretty silly, doesn't it.

Great point. But in the grand scheme of things, it provides a bit of a learning curve.

Repeats it at the golf course, without the dead girl this time (gets a statue beheaded instead). Goldfinger suitably, and frankly understandably, teed off (sorry, my inner Bond had to quip). Cover blown, target's suspicions aroused, about all Bond CAN do is observe him. Tilly crosses his path, and instead of getting her safely out of it ... another dead girl. And even with the most super colossal car bristling with offensive and defensive weaponry, gets caught, vanquished by a bloody mirror. C'mon Jimmy, shoot the hausfrau with the machine gun, what's another dead femme?

Very interesting take. But can't say I mind seeing Bond fumbling his way through the mission as a young agent.

After convincing the target that he's worth keeping around, he comes up against a woman who a) doesn't just roll over to his charms, b) is in charge, and c) would just as soon see him snuff it as freshen her lipstick. Nice role reversal.... But Bond has to fix THAT state of affairs... by date-raping her. I know it was 1964, so what. Lovely. (Edit: Not. Being sarcastic here. I can't see the Bond of TSWLM (novel) doing that.)

Never really bought the Galore conversion, but hey, she gives him a go. It happened because it does on screen.

His attempt to tip off Felix might've worked, okay. But who REALLY upsets Goldfinger's scheme? *****. Because Bond boinked her. Putting HER in jeopardy. Gimme a break!

See above.

Nice post.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

My BS detector just went into the red. "Stir things up?" On whose orders? Observe what? The target going to ground and increasing secrecy? Wow, yeah, brilliant strategy.

Exactly what he does in the books from time to time. "Stir things up" is the best way I can describe it. He tries to get a reaction from them. In this case it's murderous, clearly something to observe. :lol

Mind, we're talking about a MOVIE.

Wait... What? :lol

"... Sir, I am prepared to continue in the spirit you suggest,... if I KNEW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT." Watch it again. He's irritated, and lets it show. Doesn't throw his toys out of the pram or resign in protest though.

Maybe we just have a different view of what "testy" means. He's definitely irritated.

There is no 'try,' do or do not. And our man does not.

Yoda does not apply! By the time he found out it was too late. At least she wasn't in the car with him when Krebs let loose the newsprint rolls! (you, TGG, and Solo will probably get that reference. Doubt anyone else will)

If she's unloading Grandma's little fully automatic helper into the windscreen right in front of my face, you bet I would.

Okay, maybe I'd open up with my own first, as a friendly warning shot across her murderous, substantial prow. ;-)

I would too. But I bet she looks just like his grandma. :lol I always chalked it up to him acting on instinct in the intense moment. When bullets start hitting your windscreen you get out of the way. Ya, it's bulletproof but I know I'd swerve anyway.

Yeah, she's really "the opposition." Granny's precious cargo, *****'s a fair target. I get it. LMAO

Re: Bond's Grandma. :lol

Christmas airline travel. God help me, where's my cyanide tablet....

Don't know how you do it man! :lol

 

[KojiroVance]

Nice! However you'll recall from that scene those end up being his last words... lol

"I have had a particularly.... " "Mm-mmm..."
"Oh, you would!"

RIP, Pedro. You were marvelous.