Questions About Bond Films that You Have been Afraid to Ask SPOILERS
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thegreatgalling
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"And you've had your six" is hands down one of my favorite Bond scenes. Very cold.
I knew Bond before I knew Santa. I remember that Dent scene from when I was about 3 years old...
I think we shelter kids FAR too much nowadays. Hanzel & Gretel has a cannibal witch who is shoved into the fire, Lion King has Simba watch as his father is trampled to death, Tarzan has the villain hang himself in the vines in a very graphic way. Hell, half the fairy tales and stories that are meant for kids have gruesome and haunting parts of them.
Kids can cope with that as long as they're the age that makes the distinction between fiction and non-fiction. My eldest is 6 and to date the only Bond film he's NOT allowed to watch is License to Kill.
:rolleyes The conversation if you look back was about the stereotypical "Bond gadgets". I stand by my stance that in FRWL the only "Bond Gadget" in the stereotypical sense is the attache case and even then it's just supplies in a case with a burglar defense.
Bigdaddy
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LOL I agree about sheltering kids too much, a short list of "grown up" films my daughter, wife and I watched together:
Kick-a**
The Professional
V for Vendetta
Unbreakable
The 6th sense
Zombieland
The matrix (she hated 2 and 3)
I'm pretty sure she can handle Bond films at this point
However it's really up to parents to judge what their kids can see and comprehend in film context. My biggest concern with her veiwing is graphic sexual content, although bond is suggestive, I don't recall anything "graphic"
I hear ya. Although there's a scene or two in Kick-Ass that is REALLY graphic sexually IIRC. :lol
thegreatgalling
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My folks took me to see Goldeneye in theaters when I was 11 and I grew up FINE. :wacko :lol
thegreatgalling
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I have a silly question I have been afraid to ask.
In CR, when Bond walks over to the car, reads the MI6 letter, and says "I love you too, M", I always assumed it was that she stocked his car with the P99 and medical kit, along with the idea that he keeps (or at least continues to use) the DB5. Is this what other people got from the scene?
In CR, when Bond walks over to the car, reads the MI6 letter, and says "I love you too, M", I always assumed it was that she stocked his car with the P99 and medical kit, along with the idea that he keeps (or at least continues to use) the DB5. Is this what other people got from the scene?
thegreatgalling
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I ask because I suppose the line could be read sarcastic as well. Maybe the letter was a stern reminder the car was government property, etc.
Master Dahark
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I always assumed the letter said something like 'This time try and avoid killing everyone you see'-- you know, some sort of jab at Bond's recklessness
Bigdaddy
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Yeah thats the one that I have the skip button ready on. :lol
To be clear she has watched these WITH me, she doesn't get to pop them in whenever she wants! (although she'd like to!) Also she's intellectually pretty far ahead of most 10 yr olds, she's home schooled, and has grownup without a television signal (free of the box since 1986!)
Back to Bond: I haven't read any of the books, is Dr. NO the 1st novel? I stopped reading fiction a couple years ago(exception: Game of thrones), but it might be a nice distraction.
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Another point about CR - Le Chiffre is clearly desperate to raise the "one hundred and one million, two hundred and six thousand dollars" he lost.
Clearly, Le Chiffre must win the money back lest he suffer Obanno's wrath, and also, he must repair his relationship with Quantum.
But when Bond kills Obanno, and asks Mathis dispose of the bodies, Mathis instead displays them before Le Chiffre - a move applauded by Bond who says that this will surely keep Le Chiffre looking behind his shoulder to wonder who is coming for him next.
But doesn't this almost serve as an out for Le Chiffre and the organization? The only thing I can think of is that Le Chiffre would still owe the money to the next leader of the Lord's Resistance Army, and he still needs to prove to Quantum he could raise the money again. I am curious what you guys think.
Clearly, Le Chiffre must win the money back lest he suffer Obanno's wrath, and also, he must repair his relationship with Quantum.
But when Bond kills Obanno, and asks Mathis dispose of the bodies, Mathis instead displays them before Le Chiffre - a move applauded by Bond who says that this will surely keep Le Chiffre looking behind his shoulder to wonder who is coming for him next.
But doesn't this almost serve as an out for Le Chiffre and the organization? The only thing I can think of is that Le Chiffre would still owe the money to the next leader of the Lord's Resistance Army, and he still needs to prove to Quantum he could raise the money again. I am curious what you guys think.
thegreatgalling
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And lastly, what do you think Vesper's phone really said when it buzzed after the game? When she gets up and says Mathis needs me. Do you think it simply said "please come outside" from one of the Le Chiffre henchmen? She clearly looks surprised when he grabs her.
thegreatgalling
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Thanks for that perspective.
KojiroVance
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S'true. And Bond isn't using a PPK. Some kind of Browning IIRC.
Another creepy stalker.
I thought it was sarcasm, really meaning, "**** you, too, boss." I presumed the communique is something about telling him that if he botches this up, he'll wish he'd never learned to play cards. And stop screwing girls. And don't damage the car.
No, sir! Casino Royale (1953). :rolleyes
... I think Le Chiffre was still committed to obligations to Quantum. Like SPECTRE, Quantum probably doesn't tolerate failure of any kind. I think I recall him pleading for more time before Mr. White (?) kills him. Of course, at the point in the plot, he'd lost a bundle of money AGAIN. :behave
Bigdaddy
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Thanks, I want to read the 1st one 1st!
Great. Now I feel old... :lol
Lemme see if I can remember the right order:
Casino Royale
Live and Let Die
Moonraker
Diamonds are Forever
From Russia with Love
Doctor No
Goldfinger
For Your Eyes Only*
Thunderball
The Spy Who Loved Me
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
You Only Live Twice
The Man with the Golden Gun
Octopussy & The Living Daylights
*- Short stories: From A View to a Kill, FYEO, QOS, Risico, The Hildebrand Rarity
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