yea both printers are great very pleased with both of them the HP ones great as its portable and work on a rechargeable battery so I can even print on the go, card printers are a whole different ball park but look for one that does double sided and colour I always use Blank cards and any that need magnetic strips or chips I just print that part on as well as its a prop no need for the actual thing plus you can get the prop spot on when you design it yourself, the only thing I will say about the HP is it does not do Borderless A4 but I got the Epson for that so not a problem but thought I should mention it anyway, also look for how cheap the replacement inks are, the Epsons not to expensive but you can also get compatable cartridges as well for a few quid, some are excellent and some are really poor its just trying out a few suppliers and sticking with one thats got good quality carts