Primers and resin

[moffeaton]

What do you guys like for primer these days? I have been having a hell of a time finding something that works, lately. I dunno if everyone is using crap resin, or if the tinting fad is getting out of control, but I CANNOT seem to get a good surface to save my life.

I have used EVERYTHING available:

And half my garage kits get sprayed with this resulting:

Laquer, enamel... wtf. I am washing and drying parts thoroughly. I use soap and water. Same result. I use Comet. Same result. I used Westley's Bleche-wite too... All I have are crap parts and dry cracked hands.

 

[ralphee]

UPOL grey Jason, its the bomb, best ive ever seen, and ive seen a lot.

Lee

 

[ralphee]

Oh, use the Acid #8 BTW.

Lee

 

[moffeaton]

Will try it, thanks! Trying to get a TIE Fighter to look good. God help me.

 

[exoray]

To me that looks like simply too heavy of a coat? Or maybe too cold?

Surprisingly I have found the cheap Walmart (Colorplace) primer works very well... Followed by a coat of Krylon H20 that doesn't exactly go on smooth but wet sands well leaving a nice 'universal' non-reactive primer coat...

 

[WarpedScale]

I've been using Mr. Resin Surfacer or Mr. Surfacer (1000 or 1200) by GSI Creos for as long as I can remember. I love the stuff.

Ryu

 

[ralphee]

Will try it, thanks! Trying to get a TIE Fighter to look good. God help me.

Good luck with that bro :lol

Lee

 

[moffeaton]

It was a very light coat, and the can was VERY warm, repeatedly shaken, rewarmed, etc. I thought those same things too - you can see it lay down in a fine mist.. then CONGEAL and fish eye in a matter of seconds. Driving me bonkers.

It's all these new kits with grey tinted resins. I wish people would either switch back to that tan smells-like-gasoline crap resin, or STOP tinting it. At least I could freakin' PAINT the things.

Lee- yeah. I'm a glutton for punishment.

 

[moffeaton]

IE- that light gray you see is the resin color, and the slightly darker gray is the primer pulling back into little blobs.

 

[Laser Brain]

I'd recommend Hycote Plastic Primer...great stuff if you can get it.

 

[REL]

Jason, the best thing I've been able to find that comes close to the Japanese primers is Duplicolor filler primer.

Spray a mist coat on first, wait about 5 minutes then put a heavier coat on. It also has a really nice spray nozzle that lays the paint down evenly. Also, stay away from that Rustoleum stuff, it's just awful.

Dupli-Color :: Filler Primer

I used the gray stuff on Frank's viper.

After that I think the plastikote would be second, but they've changed their spray nozzle recently to where it dumps on way too much paint for models. But if you want to paint a full sized dump truck you'll be finished in no time.

 

[moffeaton]

UK only?

Plastikote worked great until they switched to the new label/fat white spray caps. Tried an old cap on the new can... I think they altered the formula. Sneaking suspicion that everyone has changed their formula to something "weak"?

WHY DO THINGS CHANGE?!?!? Heh.

 

[moffeaton]

REL - I tried the Tamiya primer AND I tried the Duplicolor that you pictured. Same result. It's the resin. I have that kit too - it's white resin. Will spray just fine.

Anyone successfully primed a newer Steve Neisen gray resin kit?

 

[moffeaton]

I've misted. I've waited. I've sprayed a more aggressive coat. I've warmed the resin. I'm working in a shop that doesn't get colder than 65º in the dead of winter, and last night it was around 73º as I left a heater on just for painting "safely". I paint in a spray booth.

I kinda know what I'm doing and have been doing it consistently for about ten years - it's just been in the past year that this new problem has been creeping in....

 

[REL]

Sorry to say if you can't get the Tamiya to stick to the part nice, then I'm out of suggestions, LOL. That stuff was made on Mt. Olympus.

 

[moffeaton]

I KNOW!!! What the hell is Steve doing to this stuff?!?!

 

[REL]

I kinda know what I'm doing...

I'd say more than kinda.

 

[moffeaton]

Well, clearly I'm not the master of all my domain, since this gray resin is kicking my tail, heh!

 

[RickDTM]

How about hitting it w/ some Dull coat then priming? Might be worth a shot.....

I've had this happen in the past, and the solution for me is to lightly sand the fish eyes out then hit it w/ another coat. Then again, those fish eyes look really bad....

 

[moffeaton]

All the parts feel like soap, too.

This is the newest Hero TIE kit with a metal armature that I have vintage Kool Shade for, and it's for a client. So I kinda want to make it look nice.

I repeat - has anyone built one of the new-school grey resin Steve Neisen kits? TIE Fighter, Interceptor, Shuttle?