PETE MANDER CHEAT TO THE PEOPLE DANGER!!!

[xdmray]

Bodiee , what they are saying is, there already is a place where names are listed. And there are plenty of threads of the more popular scam artists/flakes and other dubious sellers. it is not the lairs responsibility to hold the buyers hands.
Example: Me personlly, if i was about to drop anything over 500 bucks, i would search out as much as i could about the seller before i purchased. that would include searching the whole data base and asking others here on the lair.
the people who sell predator goods are just normal folks and not companies. they dont have any regulations that they have to adhere to.

Now back to fari1979, i feel bad for you bud. that is a lot of money to be out. keep trying all of your communication channels.

 

[ptgreek]

I guess the proof of what Im trying to get here is all in this thread. Fari1979's dealings with Pete precede his membership date. He found Pete before he became a member here. BUT ..he went on to quote a posting on the HMA about a deal gone bad in 2004 ( even though the posting was made in 2006) Funny how much research is done after the fact. When spending the amount that one would pay on a small car, it should be treated as such. You wouldnt want to buy a car sight unseen....you would want to know the cars history first ..complaining about mechanical troubles after the fact, would be poor research on the buyers part. Again ..I do feel bad about the whole affair ..and I dont think it is right, but the true warning would be to anyone, Do a little research first before sending a large sum of money to anyone ..dont get blinded by all the bells and whistles

 

[The Nemesis]

wel i did look around on the site before buying the suit, but i was still new to the site and maybe didnt look good enough.i did not see any negative comments of hellcat,i also checkt his eBay feedbacks back then and exept for people having to wait a long time , they al recieved there item and were pleased.but indeed i should of asked around first.i guess i was too excited that i found such a nice suit :s

 

[ptgreek]

I did a google search on Pete. the first page has all the Lair references ...plenty of feedback right there

 

[fari1979]

Sorry moderator,i know that i have the fault of everytink i dont need that you remember me my fault and that i was stupid.
My love for the predator make me study a little more of english,because my english is a **** since the school(i always suspend in english),im not using now google tanslator or somethink,ok,i want that you know that read and speak english is dificult for me,i saw pete mander work i was following his work along 2 years, and y coudnt read somethink bad of him.
Now i can understand a little more and i know who is Pete Mander because y was researching and learning more.(do you know my satisfaccion when i saw the hunters lair online i was really happy that day all of predator online,but i repeat my english was bad and was very difficult to me be a member or do somethink here,and i am bad in the computer)but im better now only for predator in english,more clever,bad experience,friends here,and predator costumes,may be one day i buy someone a predator costume here,but now i have continue figthing untill the finish.
I will do everytink that is in my hand to have my suit or my money back.

 

[JehdinThwei]

Sorry moderator,i know that i have the fault of everytink i dont need that you remember me my fault and that i was stupid.
My love for the predator make me study a little more of english,because my english is a **** since the school(i always suspend in english),im not using now google tanslator or somethink,ok,i want that you know that read and speak english is dificult for me,i saw pete mander work i was following his work along 2 years, and y coudnt read somethink bud of him.
Now i can understand a little more and i know who is Pete Mander because y was researching and learning more.(do you know my satisfaccion when i saw the hunters lair online i was really happy that day all of predator online,but i repeat my english was bad and was very difficult to me be a member or do somethink here,and i am bad in the computer)but im better now only for predator in english,more clever,bad experience,friends here,and predator costumes,may be one day i buy someone a predator costume here,but now i have continue figthing untill the finish.
I will do everytink that is in my hand to have my suit or my money back.

Good luck to ya, man.

 

[Obraxis]

Didn't think Pete Mander was like this.... 1 customer getting a bad experience, could have been just a 1-off. But there's about $10,000 worth of customers with problems here. That's a lot of cash.

Looks like for now, Pete is on the danger list. Which is a shame :-(

 

[ptgreek]

If this helps, I spoke with Pete the other day. Craig took over the Pred suit Biz and got in way over his head with orders, Pete has assembled a crew to help expedite all those back orders. He will be getting everything out to those who paid. I am only a friend of his and am not involved in his Biz whatsoever. Im writing this as a benefit to those who have posted here..please no PMs asking for me to help farther then this message. I only know what Pete has told me and what has been posted here

 

[TehEl1te]

Yay go Pete!!! Glad to hear it.

 

[MEANGENE83]

Great !

NOW BACK TO WORK.

 

[vini]

If this helps, I spoke with Pete the other day. Craig took over the Pred suit Biz and got in way over his head with orders, Pete has assembled a crew to help expedite all those back orders. He will be getting everything out to those who paid. I am only a friend of his and am not involved in his Biz whatsoever. Im writing this as a benefit to those who have posted here..please no PMs asking for me to help farther then this message. I only know what Pete has told me and what has been posted here

Now THAT is what the Lair is all about, that's a really nice thing you did George, nice one !

 

[BradLake]

Hi all,

reading this makes me thinking about that he has got more that a lil of 10k $$$ for suits right no with no delivery. I know some guys from germany (3-4 people) that do wait too since last year and already paid their stuff too.

ptgreek I dont wont to make u angry but I dont think you should have posted that you spoke with him bec I think what you write (with a good meaning to help the guys waiting) they read too in their messages from him.

And its not the buyers that have to ask all the time where their stuff is. Its on him to explain to them what he said to you. If I buy something from somebody (and a lot other guys too) and now this person has problems (I dont care what problems)

its up to him to explain that. He could say that and If the buyers would wait for several months (even years Ive read about) he should refund their money and give an ok when new orders can be accepted.

How can he still take money for pred suits when this business is now doing another buddy?? I understand why he has money problems with others then lol.


Let people wait and let your buddy sell the stuff others wait on ebay stinks even more. I think I should buy something from ebay from this guy to see If this will be delivered. If its really his stuff and he can deliver thru ebay its another bitchslap for

all that payed him directly waiting and getting emails or get nothing from him..

we all now how hard it is to save money for hobbys that you love. predtaor isnt a cheap hobby and I gave a lot for that in the past months. I was always happy with the contact I had with people. And even if I wasnt happy with all items Ive bought I

was able to clear this kind of problems. I get some stuff a lil cheaper or I send it back with refund. If I can do this and all the ones I had business with why he couldnt? Its a personal thing i guess and thats why Im not interested in him or his art.

I was asking a lot of people that show their stuff here and even when they cant/wont sell we have written about it. Where is the problem.



fari I hope you get your money back. here are so much more people doing good stuff and deliver fast. just drop them an email and you have your suit soon.

best wishes Daniel

 

[ptgreek]

Bradlake ..let me make this clear to you ..this wasnt Pete calling me crying about anything ..He did not ask me to post anything at all. We do speak socially from time to time ..and we discuss FX projects that we are both on. While Pete and I have been friends for years, he was also unaware that Im am a moderator on the Lair. When we spoke, I did tell him that his name was being mentioned again ...and there was some very negative feedback. What I reported on this thread and in the auction thread concerning his suits was my decision only based on our conversation.

 

[fari1979]

BRADLAKE: i send him (Pete Mander) a paypal money devolution,some months before , in february, and he cancel the paypal money devolution.

HE DOESNT WANT RETURN MY MONEY ,AND HE DOESNT WANT SEND ME MY SUIT.

Thank you PTGREEK to think in the people afeccted.

THE OTHER DAY PETE WRITE ME QUESTIONING MY ADDRESS AGAIN,(I DID THIS 3 TIMES BEFORE),WHEN I WROTE MY POST,OR MAY BE WHEN PTGREEK WAS SPEAKING WITH HIM,I DONT KNOW?

"IF HE SEND ME MY SUIT", EVERYONE HERE WILL KNOW THAT HE IS MAKING HIS WORK AGAIN,AND THAT HE IS FORMAL.

NOW HE IS IN SILENCE.(like always).

AND I WILL POST HERE AGAIN EXPLAINING MY TRAVEL TO CANADA,AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM IN PERSON.(because he told me that he have my costume,but he have no money to send it me).i think that is an another lie from him.

Another funny think is,since that i bought him the suit i go to the gim everydays,because i wanted that the suit will fitt me better,im speaking of november,ok,now in may IM THE STRONGER MAN IN MY GIM... is the only good think that pete did for me. (251.326 lb)of muscle and head.

 

[boirie]

I also have a big problem with Pete since last December I had ordered a skin of wolf predator then there was the problem with craig and then nothing but I contacted the guy on ebay who sells costume Pete and what he answered me.
(I know nothing about this dirty Regarding my ebay but i am getting Enquire about a website run by a hellcat creations craig fluellen He Is face book we see If You Can Get in Touch with HIM There i know he shut down That site. I Have Nothing To Do With This Site, him or hellcat The web site hope this helps I'm From The Sami area and heaard Have Of Him he Took a lot of money and didn't send Out The dirty he made​​. He lives in St. Catharines Ontario. He leased from The pred has carved molds and screwed HIM Saying too thats the sculpt WAS Involved And Then I Heard he sold a lot of screwed and people hope this helps)

 

[Crazy Hunter]

It gives guys some news from Pete.
Had the phone with him today.
He told me that he is working hard on the costumes.
Of course, everything goes in turn receive an agreement as the purchase orders.
Since your almost at the end you have to wait
You be patient.
There are about 4 costumes in front of you. His dates are planned for the summer
. So he said, June / July / August
This time it's safe.
Craig of the money fell out of Pete
Craig has another new job and have to pay back the money pete again.

New information to follow

 

[fari1979]

Crazy hunter he told you before that he will send you the costume or not?last month yes or not?and do you have your suits?everythink is lie,he want time to i dont know what,he think that we will forget our suits....
To me, he told me a lot of times that he is working hard,and that my suit is ok,i will send you next week,.....and HE NEVER SOLD ME A PHOTO OF MY COSTUME,or the shipping confirmation.(HE NEVER CALL ME,NEVER.HE IS NO WORRY,AND WHEN I CALL HIM THE FIRST CALL NEVER CATCH THE TELEPHONE,AND THE SECOND ONE IS OFF.
Then i have to be the first or the second one because i buy him the costume in november,and everyone buy him after me,why then he never told me noothink about my shipping?he is a lier,AND I HATE THIS....
I would like what he is telling now will be true but i dont believe noothink...

 

[djjalles]

I never met this Pete guy and after reading ALL these bad experiences these predator fans have had and continue to have with him nor would i want to,but if i paid him thousands of dollars for his services,products,costume,and he didn't deliver what i paid for within the period time it was agreed to,and kept on giving me excuses,i'd sure go after him myself to teach him a lesson Brazilian style.But that's just me.I can't stand shady dishonest mother fuckers who pray on hard working people who work so hard to save their money to have something they've dreamed.I really hope that it all works al for ya.

 

[Sl0100]

my thoughts are with all of you. Ive been around since before this forum and this same story has happened over and over.This is " same ole story" and "old news" to us oldtimers.
Doesnt do alot of good to have that much talent and not be able to deliver the product.
Unfortunately this needs to be pinned so all newcomers can see it.Theres appears to be mostly foreign people that are being taken advantage of.I guess when someone can drive to his house they get their product a bit faster.

 

[boirie]

Have you managed to contact him because I can not. that's six months I've waited my skin and my costume is going nowhere.