Offworld Grammaton Cleric Gun?

[Matsuo]

This view shows the lines of separation at the tops of each ( T ) which is merely a byproduct of how I created them. Also the waviness on the lower right of the circular border around the Tetragrammaton matches perfectly.

There is also a small divot under the trigger guard still visible on the ebay version.

Another tell is the way I shaped the front sight, the movie version is more equalateral, Mine slants more forward.

Ebay:

Mine:

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M

 

[exoray]

Well if that isn't conclusive proof of recasting nothing is, the emblem is also placed EXACTLY in the same location within the diamond pattern...

 

[KarlBud420]

Yeah, the pattern in the area around the circular badge matches point for point.

Pretty undeniable if you ask me.

Bruce

 

[Ramiel]

Well that sucks for sure... I don't know what else to say.:unsure

 

[Chronos]

Can you report this to eBay maybe?

 

[rabbit4x]

Can you VERO it?

 

[silverskyes402]

He'll still sell them somehow, go after this guy, he's a plain out re-caster, check the evidence!

 

[rabbit4x]

The pics you seen right now in his auctions are a second round of pics. When I saw the auction, I asked for for some closeups and he said he would change them.

Here are the old ones. I think I might be missing one because I think he might have had 7 pics up originally.

 

[franz bolo]

Any more news on who this is?

FB

 

[Noeland]

isn't "offworldmfg" just Monsters in Motion? Also knows as Recasters in motion?

 

[Chingon]

isn't "offworldmfg" just Monsters in Motion? Also knows as Recasters in motion?

If you look at quarlo's 2nd post in the topic I linked to earlier in this thread you'll see that he claims they are two separate entities.

 

[LDR]

I'm not sure how these were made. But if cast from a model gun beretta(PFC), then the circle would be the same on both, and in exactly the same position.
I presume a beretta has been molded and then the beretta logo removed and the 'T's put in?
Im not saying its not cast, but the way the circle of the logo cuts the diamond pattern would be the same if both has used a real/model beretta in the first place.
I know the PFC i have seems to match quite nicely. Though the outer circle doesnt appear to be wonky.

LDR

 

[Matsuo]

The grips were made from real beretta grips, with the beretta logo removed and the T's inserted. The unevenness of the circle is a byproduct of my grinding the beretta logo off. That same unevenness is like a fingerprint, it's in my master and appears in the closeup so thoughtfully supplied by the person auctioning copies.

M

 

[LDR]

THanks Matt, that answers that. However the way the diamond pattern is cut, WOULD be the same if real grips were used.

Sounds like these are definately re-casts though.

 

[franz bolo]

It's an obvious recast. No doubt about it.

FB

 

[Gideon Vanguard]

http://steelhawkairsoft.com/grammatoncleric.html

It's getting around as well, a "Steelhawk airsoft exclusive."

 

[SurferGeek]

http://steelhawkairsoft.com/grammatoncleric.html

It's getting around as well, a "Steelhawk airsoft exclusive."

Same photos from the original auction... no doubt supplied by the same recaster. :angry

 

[vengecore]

Yeah if you want to shake your fist at someone:angry Aisoft GI is My biggest competitor. My boss came to me asking what I thought about this after he saw this on their site. I simply said, No! the Selector looks so cheesy. I prefer your flush design.

Matsuo, Is your kit KSC or TM based?

 

[punisher]

if they are selling them on a webstore, is that legal? does the store have permission from who ever in the movie to replicate and sale the product based from their design?

 

[vengecore]

if they are selling them on a webstore, is that legal? does the store have permission from who ever in the movie to replicate and sale the product based from their design?

Probably not, Its not a licensed replica like the Ghost in the Shell Mateba M-M2007 from Marushin.