"NEW TESB" YODA head (Completed)
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excellent work Cyb...
good call on matching the screen look. The human thumb's a bit off-center when puppeteering and you've captured that with the slightly crooked mouth perfectly.
Also good to match the screen look for the shape (as you noted the understructure would be different than the reproduction for display).
well done.
:cheers
Tom
good call on matching the screen look. The human thumb's a bit off-center when puppeteering and you've captured that with the slightly crooked mouth perfectly.
Also good to match the screen look for the shape (as you noted the understructure would be different than the reproduction for display).
well done.
:cheers
Tom
Cyberman,....
I've got no words that would do it justice,....seriously.
The level of talent on this board never ceases to astonish me.
Just ,.....amazing. And that's an understatement.
Also,...as an aside,...I especially love the "re-do" factor involved.
As a nitpicky meticulous builder who redoes his stuff every time he makes a new discovery, I appreciate a similar attention to detail you've shown in this piece.
What is it they say?
"Great pieces of art are never finished, they are only abandoned"
It's been a pleasure watching this thread.
I've got no words that would do it justice,....seriously.
The level of talent on this board never ceases to astonish me.
Just ,.....amazing. And that's an understatement.
Also,...as an aside,...I especially love the "re-do" factor involved.
As a nitpicky meticulous builder who redoes his stuff every time he makes a new discovery, I appreciate a similar attention to detail you've shown in this piece.
What is it they say?
"Great pieces of art are never finished, they are only abandoned"
It's been a pleasure watching this thread.
Cyb,
Looking at the profile pic, I'd suggest that you double check the size of the ears where they connect to the side of the head. I realise that the angle is not exactly the same in your comparison photo, but the ears on the sculpt look quite a lot taller than they should if you look at the real puppet photo. Also, I'm not sure if it's the way you've added the white background, but the little bulbous chin shape doesn't look quite right. The mouth is opened pretty much the same in both pics, but the chin shapes look noticeably different.
Just thought I'd better throw these comments out there so you can double check against your movie reference pics.
Chris
Looking at the profile pic, I'd suggest that you double check the size of the ears where they connect to the side of the head. I realise that the angle is not exactly the same in your comparison photo, but the ears on the sculpt look quite a lot taller than they should if you look at the real puppet photo. Also, I'm not sure if it's the way you've added the white background, but the little bulbous chin shape doesn't look quite right. The mouth is opened pretty much the same in both pics, but the chin shapes look noticeably different.
Just thought I'd better throw these comments out there so you can double check against your movie reference pics.
Chris
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I agree with Chris, although this could be a lighting issue. One thing I do notice that may need to be taken into account is the upper and lower eyelids. On the screen used version, the lower lid is smaller while on the sculpt, the upper and lower are about the same size. Even if you decided not to change anything more, its still the best ever. Thanks for your continued hard work.
Rob
I agree with Chris, although this could be a lighting issue. One thing I do notice that may need to be taken into account is the upper and lower eyelids. On the screen used version, the lower lid is smaller while on the sculpt, the upper and lower are about the same size. Even if you decided not to change anything more, its still the best ever. Thanks for your continued hard work.
Rob
I forgot to say that before you make any changes, I'd suggest that you try and take another profile photo of your sculpt at a more comparable angle. If you try and match the reference photo as closely as possible, it will give you a better idea of what needs to be tweaked (if anything). Assuming you're using that profile pic as your main reference of course.
Chris
Chris
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
I dont know how I missed this thread
Superb work - simply superb.
Cheers
Jez
Superb work - simply superb.
Cheers
Jez
trooperprop
Well-Known Member
Impressive, most impressive.
Very well done and this must be the best Yoda
I have seen.
(a long time ago I tried it but could not capture
his character, YOU DID)
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Greetings from the Netherlands,
BasD
Very well done and this must be the best Yoda
I have seen.
(a long time ago I tried it but could not capture
his character, YOU DID)
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Greetings from the Netherlands,
BasD
Cyberman
Sr Member
Thanks everyone.
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I draw your attention to the above... Although the ear size looks pretty close from the front, I agree Yes the side angles does make them look oversized...
This surely must be at least partly an optical elusion... but i will look into it to be sure. The only way i can do it is by using my long telephoto lensed Video camera and try and do a screen grab from the video. This should prove otherwise if my theroy is correct on the ears - that being that all the features are flattened out under the telephoto on zoom (Optical foreshortening as its commonly known). This coming week I'll try and sort out as perfect a match of the comparrions I can using lighting and optics. The only thing I can't do anything about is the multitude of expressions. I've stick with the relaxed look.
Cheers
Cyb.
<div class='quotetop'>(Cyberman @ Aug 11 2006, 09:57 AM) [snapback]1298190[/snapback]</div>
I draw your attention to the above... Although the ear size looks pretty close from the front, I agree Yes the side angles does make them look oversized...
This surely must be at least partly an optical elusion... but i will look into it to be sure. The only way i can do it is by using my long telephoto lensed Video camera and try and do a screen grab from the video. This should prove otherwise if my theroy is correct on the ears - that being that all the features are flattened out under the telephoto on zoom (Optical foreshortening as its commonly known). This coming week I'll try and sort out as perfect a match of the comparrions I can using lighting and optics. The only thing I can't do anything about is the multitude of expressions. I've stick with the relaxed look.
Cheers
Cyb.
spinner 44
Sr Member
One little comment to add to an already superb rendition of Yoda. In the comparation picture you just posted, Cyberman, doesn't the nose look more pointy in the original sculpt? The proportions and size are perfect in yours, but from that pic the tip shouldn't be a bit more angular, instead of round. Maybe a trick of the light, I don't know, but as you are looking and working so hard to get the best Yoda I thought I better say it.
Congratulations again on your amazing sculpt.
Congratulations again on your amazing sculpt.
Cyberman,
Great job. Best likeness I have seen of the green monster
My only concern is the amount of input and suggestions coming from outside help. I realize that from time to time a fresh set of eyes helps and also that the people are only trying to help but just remember the old saying about too many cooks spoiling the broth.
Great job. Best likeness I have seen of the green monster
My only concern is the amount of input and suggestions coming from outside help. I realize that from time to time a fresh set of eyes helps and also that the people are only trying to help but just remember the old saying about too many cooks spoiling the broth.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Yeah... don't try to make it über-accurate as that can end up taking away from the essence and spirit of the character, if you know what I mean. What you have now IS and FEELS like Yoda... be careful not to try to do too much and then ruin that feel.
I'm still in awe of this project. Very impressive. :thumbsup
I'm still in awe of this project. Very impressive. :thumbsup
Cyberman
Sr Member
I can confirm that I'll be addressing most of the points raised about this sculpture. I understand about to many chefs can spoil the broth but i guess its me who's doing the sculpting and ultimately myself who decides what what to approach.. the good folks on this forum offer their suggestions and more often than not i'll spot them myself before even before the comments rain in.
At the end of the day... when you're sculpting something like this the only way of being sure its right is to photgraph it and compare those images with the images of the real puppet. The end result should be a far closer likeness than could ever be achieved, otherwise.
Cyb.
At the end of the day... when you're sculpting something like this the only way of being sure its right is to photgraph it and compare those images with the images of the real puppet. The end result should be a far closer likeness than could ever be achieved, otherwise.
Cyb.
